Could Dallas trade up for M. Kelly?

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I don't think he's worth trading up for honestly... He'll likely fall into the 2nd round with all that's happened over the last few months.
 

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ThreeSportStar80;2002089 said:
I don't think he's worth trading up for honestly... He'll likely fall into the 2nd round with all that's happened over the last few months.

Thats just a scare tactic being thrown out there.

If you watch him its obvious he is the best receiver currently in this class.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=f9ZHjgrXArI

I mean seriously that guy just looks born to play WR
 

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Manningham's stock rising; Kelly's dropping

2:27 PM Mon, Mar 17, 2008 | Permalink
Tim MacMahon

Cowboys Blog founder Matt Mosley has a couple items on Hashmarks that should interest Cowboys fans who hope Jerry and Co. pick a receiver in the first round.
Mosley reports that OU WR Malcolm Kelly's stock is falling because of a thigh injury that caused him to skip combine workouts and the Sooners' pro day. On the other hand, Michigan WR Mario Manningham impressed at his pro day after an awful showing at the combine.
If opinions in the Cowboys' personnel department are split on Manningham and Kelly, Jerry should consider Kelly's status as a native Texan the tie-breaker.
 

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Kelly looks like he's the most ready for the next level. I think Hardy and Thomas have the most upside to be no. 1's but will take some time to develop. D. Jackson seems to be a boom or bust but someone will take a chance on him. Sweed could possibly be a no.1. So hard to tell at WR.

I don't think Kelly will be there at 22 and I don't think we'll trade up for him but a CB is a distinct possibility.

The important thing I feel for us is to get one of these receivers (Thomas,Hardy etc.) on board so he can start to develop. It helps that Romo could bring him along fairly fast.
 

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ThreeSportStar80;2002104 said:
Again, that's your opinion... I personally don't believe OU WR's transition to the NFL well.

Based on Mark Clayton?

Kelly's game translates perfectly into the pro's.

What about it do you not like? What does he not do that makes you think he wont make it in the NFL.

Funny thing is im the biggest OU hater you will ever meet in your life.
 

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CATCH17;2002087 said:
I dont believe our organization feels the same way.

If they do then Terry Glenn is far better off then I thought.

It will be interesting to see what the team does.

I just don't think Terry Glenn is ready for the wheelchair as some here believe. Now as far as a 16 game starter, I don't think so.

Anyhoo, I can't wait until the draft. It's going to be interesting.
 

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If Kelly falls to us at 28 or we're able to snag him by moving up a little in round 2 then I'll be THRILLED. He's the guy I picked as wanting Dallas to get all the way back in September.
 

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I hate UT, but I sincerely believe that Sweed will be the best WR to come out of this draft with Manningham taking longer to shine but being the 2nd best.

Sweed has the Moss characteristics...he's tall, fast, good hands, strong, and has lots of room to grow and improve in many areas, while also exhibiting the right type of character and work ethic.

Manningham didn't run a great 40, but the guy was a big time WR who beat college CB's deep regularly throughout his career...I'm not concerned at all about his 40 time.

McKelvin is the only CB I really love with our pick at #22; once he's gone, I think Sweed is of higher value than the other CB's...I'd take a CB at #28.

It would be foolish to take the #4 CB at #22 just because he's the next best guy unless our evaluators actually had him as one of the top guys. After McKelvin and maybe...maybe Cromartie...I don't see much difference between the other guys...they all seem to have some weaknesses.

I'd love to see CB and WR taken care of in round 1 with RB taken care of in round 2 or 3.

Unless we let Barber go, it just makes no sense to me to use a top draft pick on a guy we call a "compliment to Barber". Compliments can be found throughout the draft...starting or franchise RB's should be the only ones taken in round 1.

Most of the speed RB's in the draft are actually very limited guys who don't run inside, who dance a lot, or who run upright...most of the first rounders are very good, solid running backs, but not guys who actually make many tacklers miss in the hole or in the open field. I just don't see us using a first round pick on a running back.

We can definitely get a CB who will contribute and possibly start in the future in round 1, and we can surely get a WR who has the ability to start in the future because he has great ability but maybe has some more developing to do.
 

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CATCH17;2002081 said:
Thats a good question.

To me Malcom Kelly is more of a all around receiver than those guys coming out of school.

I think Edwards has more potential but Kelly's style of play is more ready for the NFL than Edwards was.

Plus I think Kellys style in our offense is just a perfect fit.

If Dallas thinks they can get Mike Jenkins or someone @ 28 im telling you guys dont be shocked if we move up for Kelly.

I agree and think that he will last until right around the mid-teens. I would suspect that they will offer up #22 and next years #1 to get there (hence the "surprised at how we get there" comment from Jones).
 

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CATCH17;2001431 said:
I don't know if he is a super star or not.

He had some bad Quarterback play @ OU so it will be interesting to see how good he gets in the league.

In my opinion he reminds me of Patrick Crayton except he is far more athletic.

He has good body control, very fluid with routes, and great hands.

He just has all the tools you want at WR.

I disagree. He's not worth trading up for.
If we get rid of a 1st and a 3rd, it better damn well be for Roy Williams in Detroit.
 

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Doctor32;2002186 said:
I disagree. He's not worth trading up for.
If we get rid of a 1st and a 3rd, it better damn well be for Roy Williams in Detroit.

Whether or not hes worth trading up for just depends on our current WR situation which we have no clue about.

We sure as heck could've used Kelly last year.

I do agree about Roy Williams but if Detroit wont trade him than we can't do anything about it.

Only Dallas knows the true state of our situation at Wide Out and if they think its going to be another season like last year I bet they will trade up.

Its obvious though we need a youth movement at that position.
 

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CATCH17;2001394 said:
Is this right in front of our faces and we dont even know it?

This has to be one of the more poor WR draft classes i've seen in years and M. Kelly imo would be an excellent fit here in Dallas.

Your thining made me thin: Why go after this Kelly when the big push should be for Roy Williams. The Lions want to get rid of him, he wants to play in Texas and he'd come with NFL-proven skills.
Save the draft picks for corners and an RB.
 

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CATCH17;2002285 said:
Whether or not hes worth trading up for just depends on our current WR situation which we have no clue about.

We sure as heck could've used Kelly last year.

I do agree about Roy Williams but if Detroit wont trade him than we can't do anything about it.

Only Dallas knows the true state of our situation at Wide Out and if they think its going to be another season like last year I bet they will trade up.

Its obvious though we need a youth movement at that position.

Regardless of the Cowboys WR situation. In my opinion, Malcom Kelly is not worth trading up for.
Especially swapping 1sts and losing a 3rd. That's ridiculous.
He's not Calvin Johnson.
 

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Doctor32;2002390 said:
Regardless of the Cowboys WR situation. In my opinion, Malcom Kelly is not worth trading up for.
Especially swapping 1sts and losing a 3rd. That's ridiculous.
He's not Calvin Johnson.

If he is the one player that can put this offense on another level then he is worth a 1st and a 3rd.

We are in a position to overspend.

Thats why if they want to get D Mac im fine with that too.

Im not even saying I would do this move. Im just expecting something crazy like this to happen on draft day.

For the people who don't think Kelly would fit in beautfifully in our offense I honestly dont think watched the guy nearly as much as I did.
 

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AsthmaField;2001430 said:
Why are you thining that we will move up for a WR in a weak WR draft? Simply because once the top one or two are gone there isn't much left?

i don't think this is a weak draft. right now it seems pretty average with some good ones, a lot of #2s on the board and then who knows. since we need a #2 that's not a top priority i don't think unless they slide and we're just enamored with the kid.

i put CB ahead of that and barring a trade for hall/jones (gag me either way) i think if we trade up at all it would be for CB. if one slides to us at 22 we wanted, i see us dropping out of the 1st and getting high 2nds and 3rds to compliment the rounds and going for a anthony gonzales type WR in the 2nd/3rd round and a rb on the 2nd round pick up in smith or jones or something like that.
 

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CATCH17;2002520 said:
If he is the one player that can put this offense on another level then he is worth a 1st and a 3rd.

We are in a position to overspend.

Thats why if they want to get D Mac im fine with that too.

Im not even saying I would do this move. Im just expecting something crazy like this to happen on draft day.

For the people who don't think Kelly would fit in beautfifully in our offense I honestly dont think watched the guy nearly as much as I did.

i think you're going to be disappointed. jones used to be this way but over the last several years, his wheeler/dealer rep has outlived his actions in this. he has a rep for all these crazy trades but when was the last one?

sick today so maybe i just need to go back to bed, but i don't recall jones doing anything crazy in awhile but many seem to expect him to just the same.
 

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iceberg;2002562 said:
i think you're going to be disappointed. jones used to be this way but over the last several years, his wheeler/dealer rep has outlived his actions in this. he has a rep for all these crazy trades but when was the last one?

sick today so maybe i just need to go back to bed, but i don't recall jones doing anything crazy in awhile but many seem to expect him to just the same.

Lets see last year he trades out of the 1st round for a pick this year and then trades back up into the 1st round last year.

Just because he hasn't moved up doesn't mean he hasn't been active on draft day.

If Dallas doesn't feel like Glenn is a go for 16 games and dont have faith that Owens can stay healthy for all 16 weeks I think they will pay a little extra to get Kelly.

IMO we have the most talented roster in the NFC and Jerry wants a WOW player.

There aint no wow players out there in free agency.

So im just expecting the unexpected this year because our roster is stacked enough that we have flexibility and can gamble BIG if we so well please.
 

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CATCH17;2002608 said:
Lets see last year he trades out of the 1st round for a pick this year and then trades back up into the 1st round last year.

Just because he hasn't moved up doesn't mean he hasn't been active on draft day.

If Dallas doesn't feel like Glenn is a go for 16 games and dont have faith that Owens can stay healthy for all 16 weeks I think they will pay a little extra to get Kelly.

IMO we have the most talented roster in the NFC and Jerry wants a WOW player.

There aint no wow players out there in free agency.

So im just expecting the unexpected this year because our roster is stacked enough that we have flexibility and can gamble BIG if we so well please.

no, that's fine. he *is* active. but when was the last time he traded away 2 picks? it's like a mcgregor joke - ya do one sheep, you're branded for life as the sheep-doer.

but what has jones ever done since then to make people think he'll trade the farm for mcfadden? we've never done it since then and we've never really been enamored with ANY player just because of arkansas.

i see us taking CB and trading down and smith or rice in the 2nd. WR a focus but maybe not immediate. maybe even trade the 2nd 1 for roy wiliams.

those are do-able without taking up residence in fantasy land.

but none of those are wild and crazy - just bold.
 
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