Cowboy fans need to listen to our owner not noise from media

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Everyone is making speculation on what the Cowboys should do in regards to our coaching , QB contract and overall situation but they aren’t soaking in what Jethro is telling us.

Regardless however ridiculous or frustrating we are with our current state of the union it probably isn’t on the same page as our owner.

In order to have a better insight or instincts to our owners priorities and intentions they should at least attempt to take him for his word and what’s he’s trying to communicate.

I’ve invested 35 years now following Jethro . In the early years I met him on several occasions beginning in New Orleans in Sept 1989 as I was part of the initial group of Dallas Cowboys Travel Club which I traveled with team . I was also a season ticket holder and attended all of the Training Camps at St Edwards in Austin, Midwestern Univ in Witchita Falls and Alamodome in San Antonio.

In those early years I was in support and All In because of his hiring of Jimmy . I said from Day 1 that he was a hands on owner we could tolerate as long as we were having success on the field. Once it was revealed after the fallout with Jimmy that his priorities weren’t all about winning placing his personal agendas ahead of what’s best for Cowboys Football is when I begun speaking out against him.

I tell you this because I’ve always felt appreciative of his personal demeanor greeting me and brief converse we had. But that was when we felt his intentions were honorable despite his socks to jocks mantra which initially made us very cautious and uncomfortable.

I’ve been on the forefront calling him out since . After most of 4 decades as season ticket holder at Texas Stadium ( my father had our tickets for first 15+ years) I was part of tens of thousands long time season ticket holders which refused to make the trip over to new stadium.

Anyway, I believe this qualifies me as much as anyone I’ve heard from in this forum to present some insight to what our owner is thinking or what his intent is. I hope fans here will take some credence to this.

In the end it’s still my opinion but it’s based on much history of following the man and his actions which unfortunately have been closer to reality than what I’d prefer. And these thoughts I present don’t necessarily represent my opinions on the matter but rather what I believe his are.

And too many pundits in the media , social media and fans aren’t either taking him for his word or don’t fully understand what makes him tick. But from everything he’s stated in last week suggest he’s still All In on our QB which means another contract . And while he’s not extended our HC he’s giving him his final year on contract in a situation most would probably have made a change.

He still sees this team as being close. At least that’s his perspective he’s perpetuating publicly which is what we need to follow. He’s often brutally honest revealing entirely too much information. He believes more will buy in as he truly believed it. And it appears he believes we aren’t a playoff team without our QB .

I’d suggest fans brace for the reality of the message he’s been sending about these two key elements. Will there be other roster changes , of course as there is always some adjustments needed made with Cap implications, etc.

But this old fool is still All In on our QB. He loves the comfortable situation of being a playoff contender with him even if it comes up short in playoffs. This is a much better situation to him than the risk of starting over and what those unknowns present.

He sold 8-8 as well as we’ve ever seen. I promise you he will sell 12-5 as well. What he can’t sell is 5-12. And that’s his greatest fear and why he will stay with what is a consistent winning situation however frustrating and disappointing these end of seasons are.

I wish I had better news. But if Cowboy fans truly want the change they are seeking will need to root for a collapse or possible career ending injury cause this owner is not about to walk away from this level of success with this QB until he sees another can take him as far like when he let Romo go for Dak.
are you talking about the same owner, who has said the same thing for 28 year and has had the same dismal results. that's the owner you want us to listen to?

so why should I trust this owner again?

and you are partially at fault. cancel your ticket. don't spend your dollars on stupid Jerry. and things will change. until then, Jerry is getting exactly what he wants. fans in seats, buying merchandise and enjoying the experience. its not about winning.
 

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are you talking about the same owner, who has said the same thing for 28 year and has had the same dismal results. that's the owner you want us to listen to?

so why should I trust this owner again?

and you are partially at fault. cancel your ticket. don't spend your dollars on stupid Jerry. and things will change. until then, Jerry is getting exactly what he wants. fans in seats, buying merchandise and enjoying the experience. its not about winning.
I’m not saying we should listen and buy in to the hype. No, I’m saying we should listen to follow what his intentions are . Like being All In on Dak.
 

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Everyone is making speculation on what the Cowboys should do in regards to our coaching , QB contract and overall situation but they aren’t soaking in what Jethro is telling us.

Regardless however ridiculous or frustrating we are with our current state of the union it probably isn’t on the same page as our owner.

In order to have a better insight or instincts to our owners priorities and intentions they should at least attempt to take him for his word and what’s he’s trying to communicate.

I’ve invested 35 years now following Jethro . In the early years I met him on several occasions beginning in New Orleans in Sept 1989 as I was part of the initial group of Dallas Cowboys Travel Club which I traveled with team . I was also a season ticket holder and attended all of the Training Camps at St Edwards in Austin, Midwestern Univ in Witchita Falls and Alamodome in San Antonio.

In those early years I was in support and All In because of his hiring of Jimmy . I said from Day 1 that he was a hands on owner we could tolerate as long as we were having success on the field. Once it was revealed after the fallout with Jimmy that his priorities weren’t all about winning placing his personal agendas ahead of what’s best for Cowboys Football is when I begun speaking out against him.

I tell you this because I’ve always felt appreciative of his personal demeanor greeting me and brief converse we had. But that was when we felt his intentions were honorable despite his socks to jocks mantra which initially made us very cautious and uncomfortable.

I’ve been on the forefront calling him out since . After most of 4 decades as season ticket holder at Texas Stadium ( my father had our tickets for first 15+ years) I was part of tens of thousands long time season ticket holders which refused to make the trip over to new stadium.

Anyway, I believe this qualifies me as much as anyone I’ve heard from in this forum to present some insight to what our owner is thinking or what his intent is. I hope fans here will take some credence to this.

In the end it’s still my opinion but it’s based on much history of following the man and his actions which unfortunately have been closer to reality than what I’d prefer. And these thoughts I present don’t necessarily represent my opinions on the matter but rather what I believe his are.

And too many pundits in the media , social media and fans aren’t either taking him for his word or don’t fully understand what makes him tick. But from everything he’s stated in last week suggest he’s still All In on our QB which means another contract . And while he’s not extended our HC he’s giving him his final year on contract in a situation most would probably have made a change.

He still sees this team as being close. At least that’s his perspective he’s perpetuating publicly which is what we need to follow. He’s often brutally honest revealing entirely too much information. He believes more will buy in as he truly believed it. And it appears he believes we aren’t a playoff team without our QB .

I’d suggest fans brace for the reality of the message he’s been sending about these two key elements. Will there be other roster changes , of course as there is always some adjustments needed made with Cap implications, etc.

But this old fool is still All In on our QB. He loves the comfortable situation of being a playoff contender with him even if it comes up short in playoffs. This is a much better situation to him than the risk of starting over and what those unknowns present.

He sold 8-8 as well as we’ve ever seen. I promise you he will sell 12-5 as well. What he can’t sell is 5-12. And that’s his greatest fear and why he will stay with what is a consistent winning situation however frustrating and disappointing these end of seasons are.

I wish I had better news. But if Cowboy fans truly want the change they are seeking will need to root for a collapse or possible career ending injury cause this owner is not about to walk away from this level of success with this QB until he sees another can take him as far like when he let Romo go for Dak.
I see no better than 9-8. The team will have an epic regression this year considering the failure of Jerry to churn the roster and improve/reload positions that are underperforming. Having the coaching staff work on the last year of their deal is admitting failure, but willing to accept it.
 

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I see no better than 9-8. The team will have an epic regression this year considering the failure of Jerry to churn the roster and improve/reload positions that are underperforming. Having the coaching staff work on the last year of their deal is admitting failure, but willing to accept it.
I’m not in a position to make any predictions until I see our 2024 roster and how good our opponents potential are.

But it’s entirely possible we have less wins especially with a 1st place schedule.
 

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I’m not saying you have to like it. But if you want to recognize what we are most likely going to do, we should listen . Then fans wouldn’t be as surprised. They still could be disgusted, etc.
why should we listen, nothing has changed, it's a waste of time
 

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I see no better than 9-8. The team will have an epic regression this year considering the failure of Jerry to churn the roster and improve/reload positions that are underperforming. Having the coaching staff work on the last year of their deal is admitting failure, but willing to accept it.
Yeah...I need to see what they do in the draft before deciding this. I sort of feel this way too but this particular team is capable of winning 10-12 games even after how they played against the Packers. Unfortunately, everyone knows what the results will be after that.
 

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I always listen to Jerry because he's never lied to me once. Before the 1997 season he said this was the most talented team he's ever had. They ended up going 6 - 10. What he meant was this is the most talented 6 - 10 team he's ever had.

That's optimism, folks. Something this board has been missing since the season ended. We're right on the rim, guys, and we're going all in.
 

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Everyone is making speculation on what the Cowboys should do in regards to our coaching , QB contract and overall situation but they aren’t soaking in what Jethro is telling us.

Regardless however ridiculous or frustrating we are with our current state of the union it probably isn’t on the same page as our owner.

In order to have a better insight or instincts to our owners priorities and intentions they should at least attempt to take him for his word and what’s he’s trying to communicate.

I’ve invested 35 years now following Jethro . In the early years I met him on several occasions beginning in New Orleans in Sept 1989 as I was part of the initial group of Dallas Cowboys Travel Club which I traveled with team . I was also a season ticket holder and attended all of the Training Camps at St Edwards in Austin, Midwestern Univ in Witchita Falls and Alamodome in San Antonio.

In those early years I was in support and All In because of his hiring of Jimmy . I said from Day 1 that he was a hands on owner we could tolerate as long as we were having success on the field. Once it was revealed after the fallout with Jimmy that his priorities weren’t all about winning placing his personal agendas ahead of what’s best for Cowboys Football is when I begun speaking out against him.

I tell you this because I’ve always felt appreciative of his personal demeanor greeting me and brief converse we had. But that was when we felt his intentions were honorable despite his socks to jocks mantra which initially made us very cautious and uncomfortable.

I’ve been on the forefront calling him out since . After most of 4 decades as season ticket holder at Texas Stadium ( my father had our tickets for first 15+ years) I was part of tens of thousands long time season ticket holders which refused to make the trip over to new stadium.

Anyway, I believe this qualifies me as much as anyone I’ve heard from in this forum to present some insight to what our owner is thinking or what his intent is. I hope fans here will take some credence to this.

In the end it’s still my opinion but it’s based on much history of following the man and his actions which unfortunately have been closer to reality than what I’d prefer. And these thoughts I present don’t necessarily represent my opinions on the matter but rather what I believe his are.

And too many pundits in the media , social media and fans aren’t either taking him for his word or don’t fully understand what makes him tick. But from everything he’s stated in last week suggest he’s still All In on our QB which means another contract . And while he’s not extended our HC he’s giving him his final year on contract in a situation most would probably have made a change.

He still sees this team as being close. At least that’s his perspective he’s perpetuating publicly which is what we need to follow. He’s often brutally honest revealing entirely too much information. He believes more will buy in as he truly believed it. And it appears he believes we aren’t a playoff team without our QB .

I’d suggest fans brace for the reality of the message he’s been sending about these two key elements. Will there be other roster changes , of course as there is always some adjustments needed made with Cap implications, etc.

But this old fool is still All In on our QB. He loves the comfortable situation of being a playoff contender with him even if it comes up short in playoffs. This is a much better situation to him than the risk of starting over and what those unknowns present.

He sold 8-8 as well as we’ve ever seen. I promise you he will sell 12-5 as well. What he can’t sell is 5-12. And that’s his greatest fear and why he will stay with what is a consistent winning situation however frustrating and disappointing these end of seasons are.

I wish I had better news. But if Cowboy fans truly want the change they are seeking will need to root for a collapse or possible career ending injury cause this owner is not about to walk away from this level of success with this QB until he sees another can take him as far like when he let Romo go for Dak.
Hey Diehard, what do you make of Jerry's "all in" comments?
 

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I always listen to Jerry because he's never lied to me once. Before the 1997 season he said this was the most talented team he's ever had. They ended up going 6 - 10. What he meant was this is the most talented 6 - 10 team he's ever had.

That's optimism, folks. Something this board has been missing since the season ended. We're right on the rim, guys, and we're going all in.
We are at the rim of the toilet bowl and we are all going in!
:lmao:
 

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I’m not in a position to make any predictions until I see our 2024 roster and how good our opponents potential are.

But it’s entirely possible we have less wins especially with a 1st place schedule.
The schedule they face next season is going to be challenging.
Yeah...I need to see what they do in the draft before deciding this. I sort of feel this way too but this particular team is capable of winning 10-12 games even after how they played against the Packers. Unfortunately, everyone knows what the results will be after that.
Quinn just hired by Commanders. My prediction for next year is now solid sub 500.
 

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Not only not reading that novel...but not "listening" to Jerry! What an odd sentiment after all these years.
By not reading it you missed my perspective of listening to our owner which wasn’t meant to be as some took it.

I meant we should listen to him of his intentions and how he views this team.

He’s all in on Dak and thinks this team is close which is how he’ll conduct his actions despite whatever we or the media thinks he should do.
 

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Once you open up your minds eye and peek behind the curtain you can never go back. I see and hear Jerry for what he is and what he does. His spells no longer work on me.
 

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I'm not listening to that old goat, not now, not ever.
You don't have to listen. It's your choice but JJ is the one that pulls the strings. Nothing any of us say will ever change his mind.

The only thing we can change is our own lives with our decision making.

The OP is saying to listen what is being said and maybe we can get some insight as to what is going to happen. Maybe.
 

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Everyone is making speculation on what the Cowboys should do in regards to our coaching , QB contract and overall situation but they aren’t soaking in what Jethro is telling us.

Regardless however ridiculous or frustrating we are with our current state of the union it probably isn’t on the same page as our owner.

In order to have a better insight or instincts to our owners priorities and intentions they should at least attempt to take him for his word and what’s he’s trying to communicate.

I’ve invested 35 years now following Jethro . In the early years I met him on several occasions beginning in New Orleans in Sept 1989 as I was part of the initial group of Dallas Cowboys Travel Club which I traveled with team . I was also a season ticket holder and attended all of the Training Camps at St Edwards in Austin, Midwestern Univ in Witchita Falls and Alamodome in San Antonio.

In those early years I was in support and All In because of his hiring of Jimmy . I said from Day 1 that he was a hands on owner we could tolerate as long as we were having success on the field. Once it was revealed after the fallout with Jimmy that his priorities weren’t all about winning placing his personal agendas ahead of what’s best for Cowboys Football is when I begun speaking out against him.

I tell you this because I’ve always felt appreciative of his personal demeanor greeting me and brief converse we had. But that was when we felt his intentions were honorable despite his socks to jocks mantra which initially made us very cautious and uncomfortable.

I’ve been on the forefront calling him out since . After most of 4 decades as season ticket holder at Texas Stadium ( my father had our tickets for first 15+ years) I was part of tens of thousands long time season ticket holders which refused to make the trip over to new stadium.

Anyway, I believe this qualifies me as much as anyone I’ve heard from in this forum to present some insight to what our owner is thinking or what his intent is. I hope fans here will take some credence to this.

In the end it’s still my opinion but it’s based on much history of following the man and his actions which unfortunately have been closer to reality than what I’d prefer. And these thoughts I present don’t necessarily represent my opinions on the matter but rather what I believe his are.

And too many pundits in the media , social media and fans aren’t either taking him for his word or don’t fully understand what makes him tick. But from everything he’s stated in last week suggest he’s still All In on our QB which means another contract . And while he’s not extended our HC he’s giving him his final year on contract in a situation most would probably have made a change.

He still sees this team as being close. At least that’s his perspective he’s perpetuating publicly which is what we need to follow. He’s often brutally honest revealing entirely too much information. He believes more will buy in as he truly believed it. And it appears he believes we aren’t a playoff team without our QB .

I’d suggest fans brace for the reality of the message he’s been sending about these two key elements. Will there be other roster changes , of course as there is always some adjustments needed made with Cap implications, etc.

But this old fool is still All In on our QB. He loves the comfortable situation of being a playoff contender with him even if it comes up short in playoffs. This is a much better situation to him than the risk of starting over and what those unknowns present.

He sold 8-8 as well as we’ve ever seen. I promise you he will sell 12-5 as well. What he can’t sell is 5-12. And that’s his greatest fear and why he will stay with what is a consistent winning situation however frustrating and disappointing these end of seasons are.

I wish I had better news. But if Cowboy fans truly want the change they are seeking will need to root for a collapse or possible career ending injury cause this owner is not about to walk away from this level of success with this QB until he sees another can take him as far like when he let Romo go for Dak.
Could you repeat that?
 

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By not reading it you missed my perspective of listening to our owner which wasn’t meant to be as some took it.

I meant we should listen to him of his intentions and how he views this team.

He’s all in on Dak and thinks this team is close which is how he’ll conduct his actions despite whatever we or the media thinks he should do.
But of course he's "all in"...with himself. As far as dak goes, he'll do like he does with 90% of *his* players. If any changes are to be made, something will "force" his hand, like when Tony got injured. By his OWN admission, the win streak "forced" his hand to stay with Dak. How many years was he "all in" with JG?

It could not matter any less to me what Jerry says. He loves to flap his gums, to be "relevant". And he appears to be, but not from winning ships and Super Bowls.

He will do what he does, when and how... regardless of what he has said before. It's meaningless.
 
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