Cowboy Fans Still Stuck On Triplets Blueprint

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I go back to the Danny White era.. But a lot of fans cut their teeth on the Aikman-Emitt-Irvin era.. They think the secret to a Super Bowl is having a dynamic Qb+Wr+Rb combo.. Well The equation is changed.. sure having a elite QB is needed but not needed at Wr and Rb.. I think people freaked out for no reason when Demarco left.. And are just saying pay the man when it comes to Dez.. Smart teams build to their strengths.. Draft well and don't overpay...
 

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I go back to the Danny White era.. But a lot of fans cut their teeth on the Aikman-Emitt-Irvin era.. They think the secret to a Super Bowl is having a dynamic Qb+Wr+Rb combo.. Well The equation is changed.. sure having a elite QB is needed but not needed at Wr and Rb.. I think people freaked out for no reason when Demarco left.. And are just saying pay the man when it comes to Dez.. Smart teams build to their strengths.. Draft well and don't overpay...

We looked like a triplet led team last season
No matter what era you are in, that model will always work. The formula has not changed in that regard. You keep comparing us the NE which is not who we are. Smart teams maximize what they do well regardless of what that is.
 

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Dez has nothing at all to do with people missing Michael Irvin. Dez is a game changer that all 31 other "smart" teams would be glad to pay.

People wanted us to keep Demarco because we were the number 2 running team in the league last season, 12-4, and very close to a Super Bowl. The man was the AP Offensive Player of the year and with 1845 yards, 50 receptions, and 4.8YPC.

Do you expect fans to want Demarco and Dez to be gone because we have a strong offensive line now?
 

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We looked like a triplet led team last season
No matter what era you are in, that model will always work. The formula has not changed in that regard. You keep comparing us the NE which is not who we are. Smart teams maximize what they do well regardless of what that is.

Have a stud QB/RB/WR1 is great. Having a stud QB/RB/WR1/WR2 is great. Having a stud QB/RB/WR1/TE1 is great.

I don't think there is anything particularly special about the triplet configuration of super-stars on offense. Quadruplets is better.

At the end of the day, you want as many uber-talented offensive skill position players as possible (along with everything else).
 

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No recent SB winners have had a true triplet-type group for the season....especially if you mean all three positions elite.

Not New England
Not Seattle
Not Baltimore
Not New York
Not Green Bay
Not New Orleans
Not Pittsburgh
Etc

At least three teams had legit triplets (relatively speaking) last year:

Green Bay
Dallas
Pittsburgh

None won it,but Green Bay could have and, with better defense, so could have Dallas.

But clearly it has not been the blueprint, though some of those Super Bowl winning teams have had all three get hot in the playoffs, not a single team had legit triplets.

Nice thing to have if you afford it though.
 
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I go back to the Danny White era.. But a lot of fans cut their teeth on the Aikman-Emitt-Irvin era.. They think the secret to a Super Bowl is having a dynamic Qb+Wr+Rb combo.. Well The equation is changed.. sure having a elite QB is needed but not needed at Wr and Rb.. I think people freaked out for no reason when Demarco left.. And are just saying pay the man when it comes to Dez.. Smart teams build to their strengths.. Draft well and don't overpay...
You make a very good observation.

Murray played a significant role in the offense and he played it well. He is out of the equation now. It's time to see if the coaching staff can factor in his subtraction and refine the offense in a (slightly) different way. This will be a great opportunity for Garrett & Company to prove their worth. I think they're up to the challenge. I think they have the roster to retool the offense successfully. I believe they have the solid backing of the front office.

Health remain the key variable. If McFadden, Williams, and Randle can stay relatively healthy, the coaching staff can maximize their individual skills collectively and be successful. It will be up to those three to execute their assignments and minimize their mistakes.

Change can be frightening sometimes but not necessarily in a bad way.
 

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None won it,but Green Bay could have and, with better defense, so could have Dallas.
There were only four Super Bowl-winning defenses in 49 years that did not rank in the top 12 in points allowed during the regular season.

And none of those four would have won the SB without outstanding defensive performances in the playoffs. They all had playoff games in which they held the opposing QB to 30 points below his season rating, and they all held the opponent under 20 points per playoff game on average. Based on that last stat, these four defense's level of play in the playoffs was the equivalent of a top 12 defense anyway.
 

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There were only four Super Bowl-winning defenses in 49 years that did not rank in the top 12 in points allowed during the regular season.

And none of those four would have won the SB without outstanding defensive performances in the playoffs. They all had playoff games in which they held the opposing QB to 30 points below his season rating, and they all held the opponent under 20 points per playoff game on average. Based on that last stat, these four defense's level of play in the playoffs was the equivalent of a top 12 defense anyway.

Perhaps an outstanding offense can make the defense better by keeping them rested or getting a lead forcing the other team to be more predictable and throw.
 

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I go back to the Danny White era.. But a lot of fans cut their teeth on the Aikman-Emitt-Irvin era.. They think the secret to a Super Bowl is having a dynamic Qb+Wr+Rb combo.. Well The equation is changed.. sure having a elite QB is needed but not needed at Wr and Rb.. I think people freaked out for no reason when Demarco left.. And are just saying pay the man when it comes to Dez.. Smart teams build to their strengths.. Draft well and don't overpay...

Dallas had so called Triplets when they have been successful. With QB, RB and WR. Looking at WR and RB who played with Roger and with White as top players in the league during their playing time. Unless you think guys like Drew Pearson were not top players or guys like Duane Thomas, Calvin Hill, Tony Dorsett were not great players
 

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Perhaps an outstanding offense can make the defense better by keeping them rested or getting a lead forcing the other team to be more predictable and throw.
The point is that the defense needs to perform to the level of top 12, no matter how that happens. "Better" doesn't necessarily mean top 12, unfortunately.
 

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I go back to the Danny White era.. But a lot of fans cut their teeth on the Aikman-Emitt-Irvin era.. They think the secret to a Super Bowl is having a dynamic Qb+Wr+Rb combo.. Well The equation is changed.. sure having a elite QB is needed but not needed at Wr and Rb.. I think people freaked out for no reason when Demarco left.. And are just saying pay the man when it comes to Dez.. Smart teams build to their strengths.. Draft well and don't overpay...

Having great talent at those three positions has proven to be a winning formula. There is nothing wrong with sticking to what works.
 

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Salary cap era makes it hard to keep great players together.

What you need is great coaching and QB play.

Since we have average coaching we actually do have to be better everywhere on the team.
 

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I go back to the Danny White era.. But a lot of fans cut their teeth on the Aikman-Emitt-Irvin era.. They think the secret to a Super Bowl is having a dynamic Qb+Wr+Rb combo.. Well The equation is changed.. sure having a elite QB is needed but not needed at Wr and Rb.. I think people freaked out for no reason when Demarco left.. And are just saying pay the man when it comes to Dez.. Smart teams build to their strengths.. Draft well and don't overpay...

The guy could have justifiably been the league's MVP, of course people are going to freak out, he accounted for a large part of our offense last year, and is a hell of a player.
 

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I go back to the Danny White era.. But a lot of fans cut their teeth on the Aikman-Emitt-Irvin era.. They think the secret to a Super Bowl is having a dynamic Qb+Wr+Rb combo.. Well The equation is changed.. sure having a elite QB is needed but not needed at Wr and Rb.. I think people freaked out for no reason when Demarco left.. And are just saying pay the man when it comes to Dez.. Smart teams build to their strengths.. Draft well and don't overpay...

Triplets, quadruplets, quintuplets ... I don't think it matters to most fans. I think what matters is having quality players at every position we can. Those of us "freaked out" about the running back position are concerned because we believe it's a good possibility we don't have any quality players there.

Draft well and don't overpay is a good concept, but it doesn't always work out that way. At running back, maybe we drafted well in taking Randle, if he's able to carry the bulk of the load in Murray's absence, or maybe we failed and we'll struggle to move the ball on the ground with an unproven back and two who have struggled in their careers for various reasons, primarily their health.
 

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There were only four Super Bowl-winning defenses in 49 years that did not rank in the top 12 in points allowed during the regular season.

And none of those four would have won the SB without outstanding defensive performances in the playoffs. They all had playoff games in which they held the opposing QB to 30 points below his season rating, and they all held the opponent under 20 points per playoff game on average. Based on that last stat, these four defense's level of play in the playoffs was the equivalent of a top 12 defense anyway.

Huge point.

You can stack an offense but rarely is that enough.
 

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No recent SB winners have had a true triplet-type group for the season....especially if you mean all three positions elite.

Not New England
Not Seattle
Not Baltimore
Not New York
Not Green Bay
Not New Orleans
Not Pittsburgh
Etc

At least three teams had legit triplets (relatively speaking) last year:

Green Bay
Dallas
Pittsburgh

None won it,but Green Bay could have and, with better defense, so could have Dallas.

But clearly it has not been the blueprint, though some of those Super Bowl winning teams have had all three get hot in the playoffs, not a single team had legit triplets.

Nice thing to have if you (can) afford it though.

This is the operative phrase. Of course, we would love to have a triplet combo of quarterback-running back-wide receiver. But in this day and age, it's not always possible. So something/someone has to give.

I would have loved to have kept Murray, but we couldn't at his asking price, especially given the fact that despite the triplets, we got no further than Green Bay.

We needed help on defense in the worst way. I think fixing the defense was more important than holding on to Murray.

You can't have everything. Sigh.
 

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I go back to the Danny White era.. But a lot of fans cut their teeth on the Aikman-Emitt-Irvin era.. They think the secret to a Super Bowl is having a dynamic Qb+Wr+Rb combo.. Well The equation is changed.. sure having a elite QB is needed but not needed at Wr and Rb.. I think people freaked out for no reason when Demarco left.. And are just saying pay the man when it comes to Dez.. Smart teams build to their strengths.. Draft well and don't overpay...

The most important fan of the Triplets formula is Jason Garrett. For good reason, don't you think, since he saw first hand how to run it successfully.
 

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I go back to the Danny White era.. But a lot of fans cut their teeth on the Aikman-Emitt-Irvin era.. They think the secret to a Super Bowl is having a dynamic Qb+Wr+Rb combo.. Well The equation is changed.. sure having a elite QB is needed but not needed at Wr and Rb.. I think people freaked out for no reason when Demarco left.. And are just saying pay the man when it comes to Dez.. Smart teams build to their strengths.. Draft well and don't overpay...

I don't think it is that complicated.

The average fan focuses on the ball when watching games. The players that have the ball in their hands the most become the focus of average fans.

The average fan does not understand the salary cap and only knows about non-skill position players if the media hypes praise on them.
 

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There were only four Super Bowl-winning defenses in 49 years that did not rank in the top 12 in points allowed during the regular season.

And none of those four would have won the SB without outstanding defensive performances in the playoffs. They all had playoff games in which they held the opposing QB to 30 points below his season rating, and they all held the opponent under 20 points per playoff game on average. Based on that last stat, these four defense's level of play in the playoffs was the equivalent of a top 12 defense anyway.

Preach it. We spend so much time debating things that are so much less important than the liabilities we've had defensively here the last few years. It never makes much sense.
 
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