Cowboy Fans Still Stuck On Triplets Blueprint

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I go back to the Danny White era.. But a lot of fans cut their teeth on the Aikman-Emitt-Irvin era.. They think the secret to a Super Bowl is having a dynamic Qb+Wr+Rb combo.. Well The equation is changed.. sure having a elite QB is needed but not needed at Wr and Rb.. I think people freaked out for no reason when Demarco left.. And are just saying pay the man when it comes to Dez.. Smart teams build to their strengths.. Draft well and don't overpay...

I think most of us want a solid QB, solid Oline and a good D.
 

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The point is that the defense needs to perform to the level of top 12, no matter how that happens. "Better" doesn't necessarily mean top 12, unfortunately.

Ok, I originally missed the "regular season" part in your initial post. My bad on that. I was thinking just playoffs and super bowl.
 

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There were only four Super Bowl-winning defenses in 49 years that did not rank in the top 12 in points allowed during the regular season.

And none of those four would have won the SB without outstanding defensive performances in the playoffs. They all had playoff games in which they held the opposing QB to 30 points below his season rating, and they all held the opponent under 20 points per playoff game on average. Based on that last stat, these four defense's level of play in the playoffs was the equivalent of a top 12 defense anyway.

a good defense is important , and really they just have to play great during the playoffs and SB.
But a team also has to have a pretty good offense too. other wise they can still lose if they cant score enough points.
What I see is teams that go to SB are the teams that get hot and can stay hot.
Players have to step up and make great plays, like the NE DB who intercepted the pass at end of last years SB.
Catching a pass on your helmet etc.

One thing for sure you are not usually going to get to SB with a weak defense, Denver did and Seattle then blew them out.
There is no 3 players that can make a team good enough for a SB run, it takes a whole team , including the coaches.

Even then like seattle last year, do everything right, and it comes down to one play or moment and if you screw that up,
you go home a loser.
 

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I think most people freaked out over Murry because they don't think RBBC can replace Murry's production.

Thus, with less production from our RBs can we be as good offensively?

Only time will tell
 

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I think most people freaked out over Murry because they don't think RBBC can replace Murry's production.

Thus, with less production from our RBs can we be as good offensively?

Only time will tell
But that situation would have existed even if Murray had stayed. In fact the likelyhood of Murray coming close to that 1800 yard mark was zero percent. So the real question is can the rbbc come close to getting what Murray would have got if he had stayed not that 1800 yard benchmark. You're right, time will tell.
 

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You can't simulate what Dez does just because you have an elite offensive line.

You can simulate what Murray does because you have an elite offensive line.

That is why Dez is here and Murray is not.
 

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I think most people freaked out over Murry because they don't think RBBC can replace Murry's production.

Thus, with less production from our RBs can we be as good offensively?

Only time will tell

We were very nearly that good the year before. We've been an effective offense, more or less, for years now, even without Murray running for 1800 yards. There's no reason to expect that to change. Our problem has been on defense.
 

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I go back to the Danny White era.. But a lot of fans cut their teeth on the Aikman-Emitt-Irvin era.. They think the secret to a Super Bowl is having a dynamic Qb+Wr+Rb combo.. Well The equation is changed.. sure having a elite QB is needed but not needed at Wr and Rb.. I think people freaked out for no reason when Demarco left.. And are just saying pay the man when it comes to Dez.. Smart teams build to their strengths.. Draft well and don't overpay...

Having "triplets" is the key to success but the triplets are a good offensive line, a good defensive line and a good QB. Dallas has a good offensive line and QB and is now getting close to a good defensive line.
 

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We were very nearly that good the year before. We've been an effective offense, more or less, for years now, even without Murray running for 1800 yards. There's no reason to expect that to change. Our problem has been on defense.

We've been an up and down offense. We put up the yards but still lose the games, sometimes in unbelievable fashion. Last year with a balanced offense, the team started winning.
 

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Those 90s team would not have come anywhere close to winning a Super Bowl without having good defenses. Instead, they had dominant defenses to go with offense.
Awesome teams.
 

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We've been an up and down offense. We put up the yards but still lose the games, sometimes in unbelievable fashion. Last year with a balanced offense, the team started winning.

We lost those games in previous years because of a league-bottom defense.

On a points/offensive series basis our 2013 offense was nearly as effective as our 2014 offense. It was our defense that improved from atrocious to poor that helped us win a few of those close games.
 

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Those 90s team would not have come anywhere close to winning a Super Bowl without having good defenses. Instead, they had dominant defenses to go with offense.
Awesome teams.

True but it was a big help to that defense that they had an offense who kept them off the field and fresh through out the game.
 

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True but it was a big help to that defense that they had an offense who kept them off the field and fresh through out the game.

No doubt.
Still, Jimmy's philosophy of heavy rotation on the defense front also did a great job of keeping them fresh

Probably the most important thing to remember, imo, is that those teams were constructed in the pre-salary cap era.
No chance you keep the triplets AND have a good defense (with guys like Deion, Haley, Woody, etc) in the salary cap era.
 
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No doubt.
Still, Jimmy's philosophy of heavy rotation on the defense front also did a great job of keeping them fresh

It does but even then Dallas was amongst the top teams in TOP with the running game we had and ability to drive the ball 10, 12 plays in a series helped keep the defense fresh. I agree rotation is important but any defense is better served if they are not stuck on the field for long periods of time. Sooner or later the wall breaks
 

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Only on CZ do people not even acknowledge that defense wins championships. Yeah, you can't trot out Weeden, but seriously.

Our offense has, is, and will be more than fine enough to win a Super Bowl. Our defense has gone from one of the worst in history, to below average and we won 4 more games. If our defense can take the next step to "good", we'll probably be hoisting a Lombardi.

And that's the realest thing I ever wrote.
 

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It does but even then Dallas was amongst the top teams in TOP with the running game we had and ability to drive the ball 10, 12 plays in a series helped keep the defense fresh. I agree rotation is important but any defense is better served if they are not stuck on the field for long periods of time. Sooner or later the wall breaks

A good passing game can keep moving the ball and keep a defense fresh, too. And playing with a lead is more important to a defense than freshness, anyway. Especially if you're rotating your front like we do.

We just need to remain effective passing the ball and let the new pressure players do their thing.
 

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Only on CZ do people not even acknowledge that defense wins championships. Yeah, you can't trot out Weeden, but seriously.

Our offense has, is, and will be more than fine enough to win a Super Bowl. Our defense has gone from one of the worst in history, to below average and we won 4 more games. If our defense can take the next step to "good", we'll probably be hoisting a Lombardi.

And that's the realest thing I ever wrote.

QFT. It's our best shot, anyway.
 

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A good passing game can keep moving the ball and keep a defense fresh, too. And playing with a lead is more important to a defense than freshness, anyway. Especially if you're rotating your front like we do.

We just need to remain effective passing the ball and let the new pressure players do their thing.

Any means of moving the ball and the chains, damn it is not all about passing, yes passing is important being 1 dimensional is not a good thing. Being able to be balanced does work and running game can play as big a part in an offense. I know you like to claim this is all about passing it is not, it is still football and running still can play a critical role for many offenses. Dallas has been very successful throughout the franchise history when they have been able to pass and run. When we become nothing more than a passing team we fail. You say pass defense to me you have to play quality defense run and pass. If you can’t stop the run teams will shove that ball down your throat and not have to put the ball up much. This is still football not madden where you throw in 99 percent of the time.
 
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