Cowboys’ Environment Shining Through As Perfect Fit For Randy Gregory

[Stash]

People and players can take RX drugs that are more harmful to the body totally legally with no repercussions.
Marijuana IS medicine for some. The NFL is in the wrong here, not the players who smoke.

You keep telling yourself that.

 

[tyke1doe]

Then you doing something wrong bro...My rate in Corporate America is between $37 and $45(Contracts Administrator) an hour, I also own and run 15 different types of adult entertainment sites(Self-taught PHP, HTML, All Adobe Products, Word-Press, and Internet Traffic Marketing). I run 1 mile every morning and exercise 30-60 minutes 5 days a week after work...and I smoke darn near every day since 9/11. Urine test for new gigs never was a problem for me(but than again I'm special)....just gotta know how to play the game and beat the system.

Translation: you're employed in an industry/arena that doesn't require you to give up smoking weed. Others aren't in the same situation. So if their job requires them to give up weed, then they should. If it's not addictive (as people are want to tell us), then giving up smoking pot shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Doomsday101]

My point was it's BS that he's not allowed to. I didn't say he should smoke all day every day and bring a joint to Roger Goodell. It's a shame we're so far behind on this. And it's a bigger problem that it's illegal than it is that people use it. Former players should speak out. I'd rather have a guy in his hotel smoking than out at a club drinking. But guess which is legal and which isn't?

Fine, I spent my youth hollering about weed not being a bad thing and to this day I still think that. But I live in the real world and so when pushed to make a choice it was not a hard choice to make. It is called growing up

 

[gambit187]

Translation: you're employed in an industry/arena that doesn't require you to give up smoking weed. Others aren't in the same situation. So if their job requires them to give up weed, then they should. If it's not addictive (as people are want to tell us), then giving up smoking pot shouldn't be a problem.

No EVERY job I have had here in the DC metro area requires drug test. Unless your talking about regular testing?

 

[Doomsday101]

The only reason we're having this discussion is because Gregory is a great talent. He's not like your average undersized DE. So I don't think anyone would or should use him as a rule.

As a college player yes he is not in the pros and like any player coming from college to the pros he has to show it on this level. The fact he comes in a bit underweight as a 4-3 is a concern to me, if we were in a 3-4 it would not be a concern. He has to have the size to hold the edge vs Pro OT, trying to run around them often times only leads to running yourself out of the play were all the OT has to do is seal you off. I like what I am seeing from him thus far, I look forward to seeing him when it gets real out there

 

[tyke1doe]

No EVERY job I have had here in the DC metro area requires drug test. Unless your talking about regular testing?

So you're talking about skirting the system?

 

[Longboysfan]

Cannot wait to see Gregory in the preseason. I just want to see and hear improvement day in and day out. I'm pretty sure I will.

And him play in the 4th Quarter against a late round Tackel pick from the other team.

 

[Fletch]

And him play in the 4th Quarter against a late round Tackel pick from the other team.

Dunno why, but I began laughing. Not sure if you were being facetious, or jacked that he will be looking great in the preseason against a JAG tackle late in the 4th quarter.

 

[Fontaine]

He's going to be a stud.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

PER THE RULES

#6 - You will not post religious discussions or comments.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I've paid perfect attention.

Most are pretty quiet for a good while, then they arrive. They're just so limited early on because playing college receiver requires no route adjustments at all, and defensive schemes in college are barely more complicated than high school.

Then, in the pros, everything changes. They have to read defenses and adjust routes, and it blows their minds for a while. That doesn't mean they can't design predetermined plays for them, but it's not like they can dominate a game like they can when they figure it out. Sure, they make some big plays along the way because they're elite athletes, but not within a constant context of the offense at first.

Not a single elite receiver in the Super Bowl. That was telling.

Gronk is an elite pass catcher. Not very telling. The other team has a historically (no seriously go look it up) great defense. Not very telling.

And everything you said about the WR was considered fact 5 to 10 years ago. Not so much today. These receivers are coming in more physically and mentally mature and are expected to produce from day 1 now.

Nobody is drafting a WR in the 1st round and saying...man can't wait to really use this guy in year 3.

 

[erod]

Gronk is an elite pass catcher. Not very telling. The other team has a historically (no seriously go look it up) great defense. Not very telling.

And everything you said about the WR was considered fact 5 to 10 years ago. Not so much today. These receivers are coming in more physically and mentally mature and are expected to produce from day 1 now.

Nobody is drafting a WR in the 1st round and saying...man can't wait to really use this guy in year 3.

Gronk plays an entirely different position.

I didn't say they can't be useful, but they don't understand squat about how to really be an NFL receiver until their 3rd or 4th year. You hear them say it all the time, how they were just running around blind for a couple of years before they understood how to run read routes.

 

[Sarge]

How big was Dwight Freeney coming out of college?

About 250.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Gronk plays an entirely different position.

I didn't say they can't be useful, but they don't understand squat about how to really be an NFL receiver until their 3rd or 4th year. You hear them say it all the time, how they were just running around blind for a couple of years before they understood how to run read routes.

You haven't been paying attention.

Says Carter, “The number one reason why it was once so hard was bump and run. Typically in college you have one good cover guy and he’s not going to cover you all over the field so you’re going up against the second- and third-best corner. When you got to the pros, guys were bigger and faster and hanging all over you. Now, when you take away that physical contact, it helps the learning curve for a receiver. It’s a lot easier for me to teach a receiver to get down the field because a guy can’t hit him after five yards.”

The stats bear out the theory. According to statistics compiled by Pro-Football-Research.Com, the 2009 season saw a dramatic rise in rookie receiver production. From the 475 receptions on 817 targets for 5,735 yards and 23 TDs that rookies combined for in 2008, the number went up to 658 catches on 1,084 targets for 8,775 yards and 53 TDs by rookies the following year.

Toomer thinks the numbers will continue to trend upward. So does Brandt.

“You can’t believe what’s going on now,” Brandt says. “In high school football here in Texas, I would imagine 95% of the teams throw the football more than they run it, and I think it’s that way in most parts of the country. It’s nothing to see a team pass for over 400 yards in a high school game here in Texas and those are 48-minute games.

“But the biggest thing is if school’s out on the 31st of May, 7-on-7 leagues start on June 3,” Brandt added. “It’s the darnedest thing. They play all summer long, they travel, it’s like AAU basketball. They’re learning how to run routes, they’re learning how to do it against press coverage, there are just so many things they learn that they never did before.”

http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/football/rookie-wide-receivers-nfl-article-1.2027628

Check out this chart below. And of course it doesn't include the 2014 class only the second greatest wide receiver class in terms of production in history...

 

[AsthmaField]

Come of if you had to make a choice get high or play football and make millions what would you choose.

Hmmmmmm. How many millions?

 

[erod]

You haven't been paying attention.

Says Carter, “The number one reason why it was once so hard was bump and run. Typically in college you have one good cover guy and he’s not going to cover you all over the field so you’re going up against the second- and third-best corner. When you got to the pros, guys were bigger and faster and hanging all over you. Now, when you take away that physical contact, it helps the learning curve for a receiver. It’s a lot easier for me to teach a receiver to get down the field because a guy can’t hit him after five yards.”

The stats bear out the theory. According to statistics compiled by Pro-Football-Research.Com, the 2009 season saw a dramatic rise in rookie receiver production. From the 475 receptions on 817 targets for 5,735 yards and 23 TDs that rookies combined for in 2008, the number went up to 658 catches on 1,084 targets for 8,775 yards and 53 TDs by rookies the following year.

Toomer thinks the numbers will continue to trend upward. So does Brandt.

“You can’t believe what’s going on now,” Brandt says. “In high school football here in Texas, I would imagine 95% of the teams throw the football more than they run it, and I think it’s that way in most parts of the country. It’s nothing to see a team pass for over 400 yards in a high school game here in Texas and those are 48-minute games.

“But the biggest thing is if school’s out on the 31st of May, 7-on-7 leagues start on June 3,” Brandt added. “It’s the darnedest thing. They play all summer long, they travel, it’s like AAU basketball. They’re learning how to run routes, they’re learning how to do it against press coverage, there are just so many things they learn that they never did before.”

http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/football/rookie-wide-receivers-nfl-article-1.2027628

Check out this chart below. And of course it doesn't include the 2014 class only the second greatest wide receiver class in terms of production in history...

Of course their production is up. EVERYBODY's production is up in the passing game. Throwing for 4,000 yards used to be an astronomical feat. Now it's as common as 1,000 yards rushing. It's almost nothing.

You're really not getting my point. Receivers all over the league are having huge seasons, and rookies fit right in. But it's a while before they can truly play the position like a real pro. They aren't asked to read defenses in college, and defenses are very simple in college. It's a whole different deal in the pros, and it takes a bit before they get to the point of breaking off routes and being on the same page with quarterbacks.

 

[Doomsday101]

Hmmmmmm. How many millions?

lol, I stopped for a lousy 50,000 a year.

 

[AsthmaField]

lol, I stopped for a lousy 50,000 a year.

Believe it or not, I've never even smoked weed in my life.


Weird, I know.

 

[Doomsday101]

Believe it or not, I've never even smoked weed in my life.


Weird, I know.

I loved it but as the saying goes When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

 

[Stash]

Believe it or not, I've never even smoked weed in my life.


Weird, I know.

Yeah, I would have guessed that you must have smoked a LOT of it...