Cowboys 1st round picks over the last 10 years

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I dont make anything up about what you said. I even quote you when you forget.

Care to explain your viewpoint about Pollard? Why isn't he a back you can win a championship with? You cant win a championship with a pro bowl back that averages 6 ypc and gets 12 TD's? My god the guy would have had another 8 if Zeke didnt vulture the 1 yarders.

The Chiefs just won a championship with less.
I do not forget such things. For some reason you make it up and believe it.
I just explained above about Pollard, and you know what I mean. Your hero can’t do it on his own and you know it.
 

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I said Pollard can’t, as most will agree, he is not an every down RB. He needs another RB to help
If that clarifies it.


Any CB taken this year is for future considerations. Unless he is so good he beats out Gilmore. But I don’t think that is the plan.
Yes, OG or DT biggest concerns.
I dont know this to be true and I dont know that he cant take us to a SB but frankly its a stale argument. Zeke wasnt an every down back either once pollard arrived. Every down backs are a rarity and you must have the line to do it and we dont any longer.

I would draft another RB because its smart business and its a deep draft. Pollards gone next year. You want to put the ball in your playmakers hands as much as you can that more than any other reason was why Zeke and pollard split carries. Zeke was declining and Pollard was ascending and I see the same thing happening as Pollard racks up carries. That dont mean he cant take us to a SB

those are just my meaningless opinions
 

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Name a player here who was NOT expected to start day one other than Taco. In other words, they draft 1st round players with the expectation they will start on day one. We do not have returning starts at TE, RB, CB or LG. Just me, but I'm 100% confident we will fill one of these positions with 26.


I don’t believe Parsons was drafted as a day one starter.
First of all, he wasn’t used as a DE in college, so hardly anyone knew just what he could do other than blitz from the LB spot. Second, we were in it for a CB….I seriously doubt that he was drafted with the expectation that he would start over LVE, but moreso that he could blitz and develop as a LB.
 

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I do not forget such things. For some reason you make it up and believe it.
I just explained above about Pollard, and you know what I mean. Your hero can’t do it on his own and you know it.
Buddy i dont lie about anything you say. Open up my ability to research your past posts and we can settle this real easy. Why am i all of sudden unable todo research? I wonder?

i never said pollard could carry a full load. Lol

Ive said the opposite? Why does he have to do it on his own? Lol

Your living in the past my man.
 

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I dont know this to be true and I dont know that he cant take us to a SB but frankly its a stale argument. Zeke wasnt an every down back either once pollard arrived. Every down backs are a rarity and you must have the line to do it and we dont any longer.

I would draft another RB because its smart business and its a deep draft. Pollards gone next year. You want to put the ball in your playmakers hands as much as you can that more than any other reason was why Zeke and pollard split carries. Zeke was declining and Pollard was ascending and I see the same thing happening as Pollard racks up carries. That dont mean he cant take us to a SB

those are just my meaningless opinions
He just cant admit he was wrong about pollard. So he focuses on a meaningless angle that doesn't matter.

The nfl is a rb by committee league now. Pollard is the perfect back yo have in your stable.
 

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Taco is a giving since he didn't make it through his rookie contract but people act like Byron Jones was a big time player for us, 2 Ints in 5 years as a 1st rounder was a joke. This dude couldn't pick his nose yet alone a football.

Was soo happy Dolphins took him off our hands
 

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I don’t believe Parsons was drafted as a day one starter.
First of all, he wasn’t used as a DE in college, so hardly anyone knew just what he could do other than blitz from the LB spot. Second, we were in it for a CB….I seriously doubt that he was drafted with the expectation that he would start over LVE, but moreso that he could blitz and develop as a LB.
Jerry admitted he was NOT initially in favor of drafting Parsons coz he thought he was only an off-ball LBers. His draft team convinced him he would be both LBer and Edge rusher. Quinn knew precisely how he was going to use him as a starter.
 

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Name a player here who was NOT expected to start day one other than Taco. In other words, they draft 1st round players with the expectation they will start on day one. We do not have returning starts at TE, RB, CB or LG. Just me, but I'm 100% confident we will fill one of these positions with 26.


What is incredible to me is that every single one of those players turned into a pro bowl, if not all pro, talent at least for a few seasons. Four were first team all pro. Very few teams can boast a 1st round hit rate that high.

This is the first year I can remember in a while where I actually am really not relatively certain about what position they are going to pick in the 1st. I am expecting the player to be a TE or OL, but really would not be shocked at CB, RB, or WR.
 

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Pollard healthy, starter.

OL if healthy, Smith, Smith, Biadasz, Martin, Steele.

Ferguson I believe will be the starter come training camp. It's his job to lose.

Lamb, Cooks, Gallup. A rookie WR would be 4th at best and would probably be behind Tolbert also.

The DE position is filled unless of injury or something else.

DT is the spot that maybe a rookie could start, but their other players already there that could start.

LB is Parsons, LVE, Clark, and then Cox. There is no LB in this class that can break into starting lineup.

Safeties are Wilson, Kearse, and Hooker. Markquese Bell if has a good camp might be the 4th.

CB is the deepest position on the team. Diggs, Gilmore, Bland, Lewis, Joseph, Mukuamu, Wright, and Goodwin. Any draft choice would not break into starting lineup.

This draft boils down to depth and the future.
 

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Name a player here who was NOT expected to start day one other than Taco. In other words, they draft 1st round players with the expectation they will start on day one. We do not have returning starts at TE, RB, CB or LG. Just me, but I'm 100% confident we will fill one of these positions with 26.


Byron Jones went into his rookie year as a #4 CB
 

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Just look at that list. Take out Taco, Jones, and LVE who basically were a disappointment and who was the next worst pick. And all of them besides those players were all quality players. The 4th worst one was Zeke. Simply because of his position. And Zeke was great the first 4 years. Just doenst pay to draft a back high.
Jones and LVE both made probowl and both made an all pro team. It’s silly to call them disappointments
 

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I dont make anything up about what you said. I even quote you when you forget.

Care to explain your viewpoint about Pollard? Why isn't he a back you can win a championship with? You cant win a championship with a pro bowl back that averages 6 ypc and gets 12 TD's? My god the guy would have had another 8 if Zeke didnt vulture the 1 yarders.

The Chiefs just won a championship with less.
The Cowboys aren't the Chiefs, and can't win like the Chiefs. The Cowboys can win with Pollard, but if he gets injured, it's over. The Cowboys need a run threat.
 

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Jones and LVE both made probowl and both made an all pro team. It’s silly to call them disappointments
Yah I think we both know LVE was never a pro bowler. Jones had one good year, his contract year. If you dont get a 2nd contract your definitely a disappointment for the team. LVE is has been a solid starter, nothing more. The rest of those guys all turned out much better.
 

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The Cowboys aren't the Chiefs, and can't win like the Chiefs. The Cowboys can win with Pollard, but if he gets injured, it's over. The Cowboys need a run threat.
Just like last year it was over when Pollard got hurt. THATS why you need #1 a great Oline, and #2 a stable of 2 or 3 good backs. These one back for everything situations are a thing of the past.

They cost more, and if they get hurt your screwed. Just like last year we were screwed when Pollard got hurt. Need another quality back behind Pollard.

Pollard does his damage with less carries. You need anther good back to spell him and continue to do damage. I would also have a 3rd quality back. These scrub 3rd backs arent good enough.

Even if we drafted Bijon I would want another stud back to go with him.
 

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Taco truly is the outlier; I think Marinnelli was using voodoo in the draft room that day

LVE is the second; tied maybe with Jones. But both gave excellent service for at least a few seasons so maybe not.

I do not know why the Boys are so incredible in the first round and then quickly sink towards mediocrity after that.
 
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