Cowboys Are Winningest NFL Team

[CowboyRoy]

Then why waste your time even watching regular season games if you can't sit back from time to time and enjoy the success that the team experienced there?

You guys with this attitude on here are hilarious.

Let's say hypothetically we won a bunch of divisional round games but no conference championships during the last 21 years?

If someone pointed out the divisional round success then we'd all hear a bunch of you big babies saying "who gives a **** we can't win the conference"

Or, if we'd have gotten to several SB's but lost, we'd hear "who gives a **** about the conference we get creamed in the SB!".

Just admit that the REAL aspect of being a fan that makes you happy is that it gives you something to complain about. "Happily unhappy".

Some people just have higher standards then other people. Its that simple. When guys like you get the giggles over a few winning seasons while the rest of us want championships and domination.

Dont point your nose down at us because you are a casual, happy go lucky, whatever type fan. I expect the best and want nothing but the best for the Cowboys. Anyone that champions mediocrity or ineptitude in my book is nothing but a cheerleader.

Maybe you should admit to the rest of us that your just a cheerleader. If losing doesnt bother you, you really dont even qualify as a fan.

 

[Proximo]

Some people just have higher standards then other people. Its that simple. When guys like you get the giggles over a few winning seasons while the rest of us want championships and domination.

Dont point your nose down at us because you are a casual, happy go lucky, whatever type fan. I expect the best and want nothing but the best for the Cowboys. Anyone that champions mediocrity or ineptitude in my book is nothing but a cheerleader.

Maybe you should admit to the rest of us that your just a cheerleader. If losing doesnt bother you, you really dont even qualify as a fan.

Obviously you missed the point Roy.

Aren't you supposed to be over in the Rant Zone anyway?

 

[Melonfeud]

Some people just have higher standards then other people. Its that simple. When guys like you get the giggles over a few winning seasons while the rest of us want championships and domination.

Dont point your nose down at us because you are a casual, happy go lucky, whatever type fan. I expect the best and want nothing but the best for the Cowboys. Anyone that champions mediocrity or ineptitude in my book is nothing but a cheerleader.

Maybe you should admit to the rest of us that your just a cheerleader. If losing doesnt bother you, you really dont even qualify as a fan.

Well ,,,I guess my secrets out of the closet,,, cuz' you've sniffed out my stash of
'Pom-Pom's' I display on Dallas football GAME DAY.
you can try to pull my "Fan"
Card,but to be completely honest about it, that's not an advisable move on your end,friend.
Yes,I've grown/ learned to accept defeat ( more so now than in the prior past)
As everything in life doesn't always pan out to desired expectations, this applies to football fandom,also.
And it really is that simple.

 

[plasticman]

And what does San Antonio have that Dallas doesnt?

An NBA team with 20 consecutive winning seasons during which they won 5 NBA titles featuring 3 different MVP's.

With all due respect to the Mavericks and their fans, I'm was just pointing out how they had much in common with the classic Cowboys in management, talent acquisition and coaching style, did not want to invoke any rivalry discussion.

San Antonio also has the best homemade Mexican food not to mention the prettiest girls in the world live on the southside of San Antonio......in my humble opinion.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Well ,,,I guess my secrets out of the closet,,, cuz' you've sniffed out my stash of
'Pom-Pom's' I display on Dallas football GAME DAY.
you can try to pull my "Fan"
Card,but to be completely honest about it, that's not an advisable move on your end,friend.
Yes,I've grown/ learned to accept defeat ( more so now than in the prior past)
As everything in life doesn't always pan out to desired expectations, this applies to football fandom,also.
And it really is that simple.

I hear ya buddy. I see a lot of Cowboys fans beaten down so much by the last 20 years that they accept coaches like Garrett and average players. Ill never give in. We got lucky with Dak. All this franchise needs to do is find a dominant pass rusher and see us being a total beast. And that is even with the hapless Garrett as coach. Unfortunately we appear tied to that wagon like it or not.

 

[CowboyRoy]

An NBA team with 20 consecutive winning seasons during which they won 5 NBA titles featuring 3 different MVP's.

With all due respect to the Mavericks and their fans, I'm was just pointing out how they had much in common with the classic Cowboys in management, talent acquisition and coaching style, did not want to invoke any rivalry discussion.

San Antonio also has the best homemade Mexican food not to mention the prettiest girls in the world live on the southside of San Antonio......in my humble opinion.

They have the best coach in the NBA. That has been the one constant. Dallas..........not so much.

 

[8FOR!3]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Spurs have only 6 losing seasons and have only missed the playoffs 4 times since they joined the NBA in 1973. In the late 70s, they wete up 3-1 in the ECF before losing to Washington. In the early 80s, they kept running into Showtime, but did almost beat them once. 44 years isn't recent, that is pretty long term. Also, they have a winning record against all other NBA teams. No other NBA team can boast this, nor can any other major North American sports franchise, with respect to the opponents in their league.

But I do not consider them the Cowboys either. We are a small market, fiscally responsible team. We are not global entities. The Cowboys, Lakers, and Yankees are.

I don't like comparing us to the Pats, since they are known cheaters. Still Brady and Duncan, BB and Pop, 5 Rings, winningest teams in their sport for 2 plus decades. But, the Pats have the major media in Boston. But both did it with some majorly overarching role players.

You can't really compare the Spurs to any other sports franchise. I guess New England would come closest because they're winners. But the Spurs' track record is impeccable like you said.

 

[plasticman]

You can't really compare the Spurs to any other sports franchise. I guess New England would come closest because they're winners. But the Spurs' track record is impeccable like you said.

As was the Cowboys from 1966 to 1985.

How does a team accomplish this when they are consistently drafting in the bottom quarter for twenty years. They are innovative. With the Cowboys it was the introduction of computers into evaluating talent. With the Spurs it was global scouting.

They both had a strategy, a formula, and they stuck to it.

They both had no nonsense head coaching that stressed teamwork.

 

[8FOR!3]

As was the Cowboys from 1966 to 1985.

How does a team accomplish this when they are consistently drafting in the bottom quarter for twenty years. They are innovative. With the Cowboys it was the introduction of computers into evaluating talent. With the Spurs it was global scouting.

They both had a strategy, a formula, and they stuck to it.

They both had no nonsense head coaching that stressed teamwork.

I agree, but I wasn't around for that era I was born in 91. Just from what I've seen over the years growing up the Cowboys were always in the spotlight, always had edgy players like Irvin/Primetime/TO/etc. and that's not really the Spurs way. Now I get Dallas isn't as much like that now, I think they've changed in that respect. But in some ways I think they compare to the big lights of the Lakers. And listen I'm not saying this in a negative way, I love the Cowboys every bit as much as I love the Spurs. I just think they're two different cultures when comparing the past couple of decades. Now anything before the early to mid 90's I can't really comment on because I wasn't born yet. I grew up in San Antonio so my knowledge of the Spurs history is a bit broader than the Cowboys.

 

[plasticman]

I agree, but I wasn't around for that era I was born in 91. Just from what I've seen over the years growing up the Cowboys were always in the spotlight, always had edgy players like Irvin/Primetime/TO/etc. and that's not really the Spurs way. Now I get Dallas isn't as much like that now, I think they've changed in that respect. But in some ways I think they compare to the big lights of the Lakers. And listen I'm not saying this in a negative way, I love the Cowboys every bit as much as I love the Spurs. I just think they're two different cultures when comparing the past couple of decades. Now anything before the early to mid 90's I can't really comment on because I wasn't born yet. I grew up in San Antonio so my knowledge of the Spurs history is a bit broader than the Cowboys.

Agreed, I would never compare the Spurs to the Cowboys team of the 90's. however, if you had seen the classic Cowboys of the late 60's to early 80's then I think you would be inclined to agree, they had much in common, the most being their results.

 

[Melonfeud]

I hear ya buddy. I see a lot of Cowboys fans beaten down so much by the last 20 years that they accept coaches like Garrett and average players. Ill never give in. We got lucky with Dak. All this franchise needs to do is find a dominant pass rusher and see us being a total beast. And that is even with the hapless Garrett as coach. Unfortunately we appear tied to that wagon like it or not.

Believe me I'm hearing you loud and clear,friend!
And at this point in time I'm about a 50/50 coin toss on the GARRETT equation,
On my one hand I see the helpless hand clapper couldn't coach himself out of a wet paper bag in gale force winds of the 2015 season,,,while on the other hand I see a brilliant master mind marking time and throwing that season(and players of mediocre talents time till they can walk away/ not resign, see our 4 departed d.b's)and positioning the team in the '16' Draft, that if we were hard rock miners of the 1840's or 1890's would've been anybody's
Eureka moment/Bonanza strike with the acquisition of number 4 and number 21,,, I'll give the coach Garrett another season and merely observe the outcome of his abilities in coaching before I take to the warpath once again,, LOL,,,as it's looking like(as you have pointed out) that despite his perceived inability,,,the TEAM IS ON THE BRINK OF THE EDGE OF BUSTING IT WIDE OPEN!

"GO COWBOYS"

 

[Aven8]

Thank you Tom!!

 

[jazzcat22]

LOL.........if all goes well?

Meaning no devastating injuries.
Because does anyone really believe in all normal circumstances GB will be 5 games better than us?
I know some will say they can be, but I would bet they won't be.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Meaning no devastating injuries.
Because does anyone really believe in all normal circumstances GB will be 5 games better than us?
I know some will say they can be, but I would bet they won't be.

Never know what GB team will show up. they were a much better team the second half of the season. When we played them the first time they didn't even look like a playoff team.

 

[Jake]

Of Course, I am referring to winning percentage, Throughout history, the Cowboys have won their regular season games more frequently than any other team in the NFL at 57.3%. In a 16 game season this means the Cowboys have historically averaged 9.2-6.8.

Team _ PCT
Cowboys _ 57.3%
Packers _ 56.9%
Bears _ 56.7%
Dolphins _ 56.3%
Patriots _ 55.4%
49ers _ 54.7%
Giants _ 54.5%
Broncos _ 54.2%
Vikings _ 54.1%
Ravens _ 54.0%
Steelers _ 53.5%
Colts _ 53.2%
Raiders _ 53.2%
Chiefs _ 52.2%
Browns _ 52.0%
Commanders _ 50.6%
Seahawks _ 50.5%
Chargers _ 49.7%
Rams _ 49.5%
Panthers _ 49.0%
Eagles _ 48.4%
Titans _ 47.9%
Bills _ 46.5%
Bengals _ 45.7%
Jets _ 45.6%
Lions _ 45.6%
Saints _ 44.2%
Texans _ 44.2%
Jaguars _ 44.0%
Falcons _ 43.8%
Cardinals _ 42.7%
Buccaneers _ 38.9%


The Packers have just recently creeped up on the Bears, who was in first place until the 2014 season when the Cowboys regained the spot.

How many games behind are the Packers. In order to calculate this, we must realize that, each new win effects each team differently as a proportion because they have played different amounts of games. Some teams are much older and have been around for almost a hundred years. The more games that have been played, the less impactful a new game result becomes.

Here is an analogy. Suppose we have a bathtub and a swimming pool filled partially with water. If we add five new gallons of water to the bathtub we can see the difference in water level. However, if we add five gallons to the swimming pool it is barely noticeable.

You could think of the Bears as being the swimming pool and the Ravens being the bathtub. A victory by the Ravens is almost 8 times more impactful then a bears victory with respect their overall records.

The trick is to calculate algebraically how many additional victories it would take for a team to reach the same percentage as the Cowboys. The number of games behind represent the number of Team win/Cowboy loss combinations it would take to equal the Cowboys.

Team _ GB
Cowboys _ 0
Packers _ 5
Dolphins _ 8
Ravens _ 11
Bears _ 16
Vikings _ 27
Broncos _ 27
49ers _ 27
Panthers _ 29
Texans _ 32
Patriots _ 32
Giants _ 36
Seahawks _ 43
Jaguars _ 47
Browns _ 52
Raiders _ 70
Colts _ 77
Titans _ 81
Steelers _ 84
Bengals _ 87
Chiefs _ 87
Bills _ 93
Saints _ 100
Falcons _ 105
Buccaneers _ 118
Chargers _ 130
Commanders _ 155
Rams _ 170
Jets _ 202
Eagles _ 203
Lions _ 273
Cardinals _ 370


You can see now the teams that are closest to passing the Cowboys, none should be too much of a surprise.

In the case of the Lions, they would have to go undefeated for 17 consecutive years while the Cowboys would have to lose every game in the same time period.

That's cool and all, but I've buried several beloved family members since the last time Dallas even played in a conference championship game. Need to start adding to the trophy case.

 

[Jake]

Then why waste your time even watching regular season games if you can't sit back from time to time and enjoy the success that the team experienced there?

You guys with this attitude on here are hilarious.

Let's say hypothetically we won a bunch of divisional round games but no conference championships during the last 21 years?

If someone pointed out the divisional round success then we'd all hear a bunch of you big babies saying "who gives a **** we can't win the conference"

Or, if we'd have gotten to several SB's but lost, we'd hear "who gives a **** about the conference we get creamed in the SB!".

Just admit that the REAL aspect of being a fan that makes you happy is that it gives you something to complain about. "Happily unhappy".

I can't imagine anyone on this board making a post like that 20 years ago, had such forums existed. If postseason success doesn't matter then why is this here?

Of course winning in the regular season is more fun than losing - that's hardly a revelation. But I don't recall much celebration of 13-3 after Green Bay eliminated the Cowboys from the playoffs.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Meaning no devastating injuries.
Because does anyone really believe in all normal circumstances GB will be 5 games better than us?
I know some will say they can be, but I would bet they won't be.

The #1 thing affecting our season at this point is that daunting schedule.

#2 is all these suspensions that are here or coming.

If we get hit by injuries beyond moderate it could be a tough season.

If we can avoid the big injuries then I like our chances to win the East. Giants will be better, trust me. UNless they get hit.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The #1 thing affecting our season at this point is that daunting schedule.

#2 is all these suspensions that are here or coming.

The daunting schedule is the singlemost overrated thing in history. Those teams fear the Cowboys. Not the other way around. That 13-3 last year wasn't a fluke.

Any suspended players will be around when the games count - in December and January.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

That's cool and all, but I've buried several beloved family members since the last time Dallas even played in a conference championship game. Need to start adding to the trophy case.

So have I.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The daunting schedule is the singlemost overrated thing in history. Those teams fear the Cowboys. Not the other way around. That 13-3 last year wasn't a fluke.

Any suspended players will be around when the games count - in December and January.

I agree that the schedule thing CAN be smoke and mirrors. But the NFC East is getting better and some of those teams on our schedule are NOT going to implode.

13-3 a fluke? Definitely not. But the last place schedule didnt hurt either. Team definitely fear the Cowboys. But they dont fear our defense. There isnt an easy two game break in our schedule. And both in the first part and down the stretch are very tough.

Guys missing the first 4 games matters. Hurts us those 4 games and then will take these guys time to get back up to speed. And often nag with injuries. You want to blow off suspensions be my guest. If we start out 1-3 or 2-2 that wont be good. You want to go into Atlanta in the playoffs or have them come to Dallas? Makes a big difference. One or two games.