Cowboys Board On Espn, Info From Mort On Nfl Live

[The Rawhide Kid]

...how many points on the draft value chart is Chuck Norris in his prime???:laugh2:

It equals one roundhouse kick which is approximately worth the entire first round.

 

[iceberg]

It equals one roundhouse kick which is approximately worth the entire first round.

you know, if norris did whoop some tail on the field, i think goodell would be too scared to fine him.

and we all know chuck is a cowboy.

 

[The Rawhide Kid]

you know, if norris did whoop some tail on the field, i think goodell would be too scared to fine him.

and we all know chuck is a cowboy.

How could Goodell fine him? Chuck would be the first person to be commissioner while still playing in the NFL.

 

[iceberg]

How could Goodell fine him? Chuck would be the first person to be commissioner while still playing in the NFL.

i forgot that part. bad berg.

 

[5mics]

Im not opposed of trading up for McFadden but not for the #1 pick.

That is too much guaranteed money for any player that is not a Quarterback and even its still to much for a QB.

I disagree w/ that. If anything, RBs are probably the most "deserving" of that big of a bonus since they have instant impact as a rookie (other than an OLT). QBs and WRs take awhile developing while a RB and an OLT would make an impact from day one.....

 

[Big Dakota]

FWIW, Jones did work with special education children while at WVU. It was his major. Hes never going to be able to do that now but it is true.

The gang from lil Bush doesn't count:

 

[iceberg]

I disagree w/ that. If anything, RBs are probably the most "deserving" of that big of a bonus since they have instant impact as a rookie (other than an OLT). QBs and WRs take awhile developing while a RB and an OLT would make an impact from day one.....

if *they* can have an impact as a rookie then maybe mcfadden isn't he only good RB in this draft.

so why overpay for granted a value position when this is the deepest it's been in years.

it's like paying extra for a ferrari when the porsche will still get the job done just as well.

 

[5mics]

if *they* can have an impact as a rookie then maybe mcfadden isn't he only good RB in this draft.

so why overpay for granted a value position when this is the deepest it's been in years.

it's like paying extra for a ferrari when the porsche will still get the job done just as well.

I just believe McFadden is a cut above every other RB and it's not even close. To me, he's the BEST prospect coming out and deserves to be rated as the #1 overall player. I think the term is "once a decade player". IF we can get him for our #1 this year (22nd) and our #1 and #2 in 2009, we should pull the trigger on the deal.....

 

[burmafrd]

The Chuck Norris thing was funny about a year ago. Now its just stupid.

 

[iceberg]

I just believe McFadden is a cut above every other RB and it's not even close. To me, he's the BEST prospect coming out and deserves to be rated as the #1 overall player. I think the term is "once a decade player". IF we can get him for our #1 this year (22nd) and our #1 and #2 in 2009, we should pull the trigger on the deal.....

name any RB taken in the 1st round in the last decade you'd give up 2 #1s for now.

if we can't get him for 22 and 28, 22 and 29 won't do it either.

 

[iceberg]

The Chuck Norris thing was funny about a year ago. Now its just stupid.

every post you make you push yourself further from cool.

do it again.

 

[Doctor32]

yep he did say that. He also insisted we are still players to trade with Miami for the number 1 pick for mcfadden.

I have lost alot of respect for mort in the past year. I dont know why he is clinging to this number 1 pick trade, but it is extremely annoying.

We're finalizing editing on a series we post produced for the Big Ten Network. Our network contact, a Chicago based Producer with the Big Ten Network, a former producer for ESPN, and I had a conversation over lunch about this knd of reporting at Bristol. He said guys like Mort are hamstrung by Executive Producers to keep the sensationalized, speculative gossip style rumor milled headlines coming. There's no better fuel for that fire than Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys. He said it's a clear change at ESPN now that they compete with the NFL Network.

Also, he said NFL films laid off 21 because the NFL Network is losing so much money each month due to lack of distribution in the cable battle.

 

[ndanger]

it's too much for chuck norris in his prime. now you KNOW that's too much money!

+1...

 

[ndanger]

mcsure! it's a done deal just like mcfadden!

mcjoy!

Mc.+1

 

[ndanger]

Chuck and i dream in McHD.

Where did you get your tv, at McFrye's Electronics?

 

[iceberg]

I just believe McFadden is a cut above every other RB and it's not even close. To me, he's the BEST prospect coming out and deserves to be rated as the #1 overall player. I think the term is "once a decade player". IF we can get him for our #1 this year (22nd) and our #1 and #2 in 2009, we should pull the trigger on the deal.....

name any RB taken in the 1st round in the last decade you'd give up 2 #1s for now.

if we can't get him for 22 and 28, 22 and 29 won't do it either.

last year - AP at 7. if you use this as an example of a "once in a decade" player that could be worth 2 #1 picks then next year we should have *yet another* once in a decade player - 3 years running. next 27 years are going to be boring for rb's after that.

2006 - bush at #1. would you give both firsts for him (assuming mcfadden would fall to where it was *only* 2 picks, but at #2 for this once in a decade player then it would likely be 3 1s. so would you have given 3 1's for bush?

didn't think so.

maroney?

2005 - this was a stellar class for rb's to be sure. ronnie brown, cedrick benson and cadillac williams in the 1st round? would you give up 3 1's for hell, all 3 of 'em today?

2004 - steve jackson, chris perry, kevin jones? i'll assume we'd not give up a few ones for kevin jones since we didn't sign him as a FA either. 2-3 1s for any of these?

2003 magahee around 13 i think.

2002 william green not very high up.

2001 - tomlison. you could make a case of him being worth 2 1s due to his career.

2000 - jamaal lewis, thomas jones, ron dayne - weak.

1999 - e james, r williams. top 5. williams cost the saints every pick they had for that years shiney object. think they'd ever do it again? now e. james could also be made a case for perhaps 2 1s around where we are considering his career. a case could be made against it too to be honest.

1998 - curtis enis, robert edwards, fred taylor. (the draft we got ellis, btw) nothing special here.

for for your once in a decade player we could argue that tomlinson has been that player with e james and a peterson in that class. one a maybe and the other based off a stellar rookie year.

so now we have arguably 3 players in your once in a decade scenario. if mcfadden "does" hit it home that's 4 out of 10 "once in a decade" players. let's put peterson and james as 1/2's in this and go 3 in 10.

yes this also shows weak years as well. we've seen 2 CAN'T MISS players in bush and williams either not live up to potential or spleef'd out of the NFL several times. now you can arguably use this info for your side of the argument to. i understand and appreciate that, however...

you usually find those once in a decade players a decade later and saying it now is just a belief, not a fact. no one knows what will pan out and that is our only "common ground" here really.

not knowing makes me hedge my bets, esp. when this is the strongest rb class in what looks to be a decade.

we have more pressing needs at cb than rb.
we have needs at wr we can address with one of those picks. cb or even rb if stewart falls to us and maybe cason at 28.

the point is we have a lot of options that would also be the cost to get this years shiney object when i've seen a lot of those fade quickly over that decade of research.

once again, due to the historicial evidence of the cost of making such a move, we pass and fill many needs, not one.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

last year - AP at 7. if you use this as an example of a "once in a decade" player that could be worth 2 #1 picks then next year we should have *yet another* once in a decade player - 3 years running. next 27 years are going to be boring for rb's after that.

2006 - bush at #1. would you give both firsts for him (assuming mcfadden would fall to where it was *only* 2 picks, but at #2 for this once in a decade player then it would likely be 3 1s. so would you have given 3 1's for bush?

didn't think so.

maroney?

2005 - this was a stellar class for rb's to be sure. ronnie brown, cedrick benson and cadillac williams in the 1st round? would you give up 3 1's for hell, all 3 of 'em today?

2004 - steve jackson, chris perry, kevin jones? i'll assume we'd not give up a few ones for kevin jones since we didn't sign him as a FA either. 2-3 1s for any of these?

2003 magahee around 13 i think.

2002 william green not very high up.

2001 - tomlison. you could make a case of him being worth 2 1s due to his career.

2000 - jamaal lewis, thomas jones, ron dayne - weak.

1999 - e james, r williams. top 5. williams cost the saints every pick they had for that years shiney object. think they'd ever do it again? now e. james could also be made a case for perhaps 2 1s around where we are considering his career. a case could be made against it too to be honest.

1998 - curtis enis, robert edwards, fred taylor. (the draft we got ellis, btw) nothing special here.

for for your once in a decade player we could argue that tomlinson has been that player with e james and a peterson in that class. one a maybe and the other based off a stellar rookie year.

so now we have arguably 3 players in your once in a decade scenario. if mcfadden "does" hit it home that's 4 out of 10 "once in a decade" players. let's put peterson and james as 1/2's in this and go 3 in 10.

yes this also shows weak years as well. we've seen 2 CAN'T MISS players in bush and williams either not live up to potential or spleef'd out of the NFL several times. now you can arguably use this info for your side of the argument to. i understand and appreciate that, however...

you usually find those once in a decade players a decade later and saying it now is just a belief, not a fact. no one knows what will pan out and that is our only "common ground" here really.

not knowing makes me hedge my bets, esp. when this is the strongest rb class in what looks to be a decade.

we have more pressing needs at cb than rb.
we have needs at wr we can address with one of those picks. cb or even rb if stewart falls to us and maybe cason at 28.

the point is we have a lot of options that would also be the cost to get this years shiney object when i've seen a lot of those fade quickly over that decade of research.

once again, due to the historicial evidence of the cost of making such a move, we pass and fill many needs, not one.

This is actually why I am glad I dont watch college football. i can go into the draft at least not having a bias based on what ESPN decided to show in a particular year. Well that nad the fact im not a big fan of indentured servitude.

RBs picked int eh first round fail about half the time. Its one thing to have the pick and use it. Its quite another to use all your first day picks to get one.

I had been in favor of trading up for Mendenhall but the more I think about it there are only two people I would want to see us trade up for: DRC and McKelvin. Otherwise just let come who comes.

 

[CATCH17]

I disagree w/ that. If anything, RBs are probably the most "deserving" of that big of a bonus since they have instant impact as a rookie (other than an OLT). QBs and WRs take awhile developing while a RB and an OLT would make an impact from day one.....

You think a rookie RB is worth 30 mill guaranteed?

Quarterbacks are the only ones worth that kind of investment at that age imo.

 

[AsthmaField]

Also, he said NFL films laid off 21 because the NFL Network is losing so much money each month due to lack of distribution in the cable battle.

I thought that NFL Films laid off so many people because HBO dropped it's "Inside The NFL" that employed so many NFL Films people.

I don't know... but the HBO thing makes much more sense to me.