Cowboys bus involved in fatal crash

[Hostile]

Not necessarily....It the bus driver was speeding.

The van driver turned left on a road where it says Do Not Enter. Bus t-boned the passenger side. No citations issued. 4 people lost their lives. Don't lose perspective.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

They attempted to make a left hand turn and got hit by the Cowboys bus. Sad.

Illegal left hand turn

 

[AbeBeta]

Illegal left hand turn

Yes. that's the important thing with four people dead

 

[AsthmaField]

And the season starts.....

Why am I not shocked????

PFT already making it sound as if the Cowboys are @ fault...and should be compensating the families involved.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/07/24/cowboys-bus-involved-in-fatal-crash/

In that article you linked, please show me where it says anything close to it was the Cowboys fault and the people should be compensated.

They literally said the van was making an illegal turn when the bus hit it. Nothing even close to it being the fault of anyone involved with the Cowboys.

 

[JoeKing]

Not necessarily....It the bus driver was speeding.

How are you going to prove that? No wittnesses have step forward stating it. The bus driver never even had time to apply the brakes before the collision so the length of the skid marks don't indicate the speed of the bus. Emory's(the bus driver) statement will be key to this case.

 

[Wood]

This season has been a beating and we havent even started TC yet.

Season starts on Sept 11 in my book. Unfortunate situation nonetheless.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yes. that's the important thing with four people dead

In today's culture of fault and blame it is.

 

[Sinister]

In that article you linked, please show me where it says anything close to it was the Cowboys fault and the people should be compensated.

They literally said the van was making an illegal turn when the bus hit it. Nothing even close to it being the fault of anyone involved with the Cowboys.

They changed the article, I saw it when the news broke and they most definitely intimated that Jerry should be compensating some people because of his billions of dollars. PFT also deleted a bunch of comments excoriating Florio for his 'reporting' of said accident...

 

[CCBoy]

This is a sad event. I'm first sorry for the loss...prayer offered up.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Yes. that's the important thing with four people dead

It's very sad that 4 people died no doubt. I'm a truck driver and I see cars, vans and pickups make the same mistakes and worst everyday. If people would slow down, read signs and be respectful on the road you wouldn't see these terrible things happen.

 

[NorthTexan95]

They changed the article, I saw it when the news broke and they most definitely intimated that Jerry should be compensating some people because of his billions of dollars. PFT also deleted a bunch of comments excoriating Florio for his 'reporting' of said accident...

Yep. The original article made less mention of the four people killed and more about how much the Cowboys are worth. It was really written in bad taste and has since been rewritten.

 

[Jarv]

Thoughts and condolences to the friends and family of the 4 people who died.

 

[JohnsKey19]

I read Florio's piece last night and could not believe what i was reading considering 4 people tragically lost their lives.

 

[DallasDomination]

Yes. that's the important thing with four people dead

Im immune to people online and their lack of perspective. ..ok it wasn't legal we can hash that out another time. 4 people are dead and thank god nobody else lost their life. That's really it right there.

 

[DandyDon52]

Not necessarily....It the bus driver was speeding.

That was what I was thinking, I looked at the pictures of the van, and it was totally destroyed.
Before they turned it over, it looked like it had been blown up.
So either the van was a very weakly made vehicle, or the bus was going at a high speed.
The van was knocked about 300 feet down the road, and the cowboy bus was past where the van was.
That sort of indicates a high rate of speed.

There was supposed to be no left turn there, but even if he turn right it would stll be hit by the bus,
apparently the driver of the van never saw the bus.

Said 2 adults, and 2 teenage girls, in van, so that might be the whole family.
Sad about all , but the young girls had no control over what happened.

I just dont see how you pull out onto a highway and not see a bus coming.
Because they must have been hit as soon as they started into the road.
It would be like your at a red light, it turns green , and you pull out not looking and boom hit by a vehicle in the side.
Only no light here just a stop sign , and there is a clear no left turn sign across from the stop sign.

 

[jordan4vols]

How are you going to prove that? No wittnesses have step forward stating it. The bus driver never even had time to apply the brakes before the collision so the length of the skid marks don't indicate the speed of the bus. Emory's(the bus driver) statement will be key to this case.

It's actually quite simple using the black box on the vehicle to calculate the last five seconds before impact and collision forensics. If the driver was speeding at all he will be assessed a degree of comparative negligence. Assessing a degree of comparative negligence is not hard to do. Especially in a fatality even with the other driver committing a illegal left turn. Again, I don't know what they will do but I wouldn't be surprised to see the insurance pay some to the estate of the families involved avoiding litigation.

 

[speedkilz88]

 

[speedkilz88]

That was what I was thinking, I looked at the pictures of the van, and it was totally destroyed.
Before they turned it over, it looked like it had been blown up.
So either the van was a very weakly made vehicle, or the bus was going at a high speed.
The van was knocked about 300 feet down the road, and the cowboy bus was past where the van was.
That sort of indicates a high rate of speed.

There was supposed to be no left turn there, but even if he turn right it would stll be hit by the bus,
apparently the driver of the van never saw the bus.

Said 2 adults, and 2 teenage girls, in van, so that might be the whole family.
Sad about all , but the young girls had no control over what happened.

I just dont see how you pull out onto a highway and not see a bus coming.
Because they must have been hit as soon as they started into the road.
It would be like your at a red light, it turns green , and you pull out not looking and boom hit by a vehicle in the side.
Only no light here just a stop sign , and there is a clear no left turn sign across from the stop sign.

Speed limit was 65, that is plenty fast. From what I've read the van was struck on the passenger side so it was trying to merge with the bus' traffic. So they saw it, they just misjudged it I would assume.

 

[DandyDon52]

Thoughts and condolences to the friends and family of the 4 people who died.

I am guessing , but I think the 4 were a family. 2 adults, and 2 teenage girls, sounds like a family.

Also the whole illegal turn is irrelevant, if they had turn right result would have been similar, they would have been hit more in the rear or at a angle
so not quite as bad.
The only thing is did bus have lights on? was it dark or near dawn? how fast was the bus going?
Why did the driver of the van not see a big white bus?? or think he would not be hit by it.

Seems to me the car pulled out and was immediately hit in the side, and was carried way down the road or knocked way down.
In the first link in op post, look at the pictures, and videos of the van, and then see if you think 55,mph would do that
It might, since vans are weak vehicles, but this looks like a high speed impact.

I think the main fault would be with the driver of the van, pulling out and not seeing a bus is bad, and then trying to go left which at that point
was actually straight ahead, was all on him
But if the bus was doing 90 and not paying attention, then some fault would be with the driver of bus.

No brakes hit means the bus driver did not see that the van was pulling out, and again they must have been either going really fast
or the van just pulled out right into them.

 

[DandyDon52]

Speed limit was 65, that is plenty fast. From what I've read the van was struck on the passenger side so it was trying to merge with the bus' traffic. So they saw it, they just misjudged it I would assume.

I thought it was hit on driver side, lf you look at the video reports, it seems that way.