Cowboys cap space 32M with restructures

[MichaelWinicki]

No, but they paid Revis 12M for 2014.

The Cowboys could pay Suh 14 per year and not be going all in.

True. And the Pats were replacing a decent corner.

I'd rather have Hardy at 10 per year.

 

[Stash]

I'd rather have Hardy at 10 per year.

I'm holding you to that!

 

[Plankton]

Crappy QB class.
Who would you take and when?

He had a terrible combine, and his physical tools aren't the greatest, but I would give Shane Carden a look in the 7th or as a UDFA. The kid has a little something to him. He's a gamer.

 

[Plankton]

I've grown to despise the whole "all in" mindset.

The Cowboy teams from the late 60's until the late 80's never operated on that principle... "Roger's getting older– we better go 'all in". Nonsense.

The closest they came was when they traded their first and second rounders in the 1980 draft for John Dutton when Too Tall Jones "retired".

 

[MichaelWinicki]

The closest they came was when they traded their first and second rounders in the 1980 draft for John Dutton when Too Tall Jones "retired".

True.

And that didn't turn out all rosey either.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

I like that idea too, but this isn't supposed to be a very good year for QB's other than Winston or Mariotta.

Yeah, I am learning that in this thread. I am not a draft guy....

Maybe not this this year then unless they see someone they really like. Maybe next year?

I want a guy of our own. A guy we choose and let him get comfortable , as much as we can, with the system, Garret, coaches, young OL, develop chemistry with Dez, twill.... That will take a few years....

And when its time for Romo to hang up the cleats, we dont have to scramble in FA for some over priced QB. This team is young, I think we should be good, even after Romo is done....

 

[Nightman]

Exactly, look at what John Elway and the Broncos did last year,, he went ALL IN with big money FA and lost in the 1st round of the playoffs and now forced to make major changes to the entire team and starting over....

That is just flat out wrong. They went 12-4 and had a home bye in then playoffs. They had a much improved Defense over their Super Bowl team. They lost because Peyton got hurt, period.

They aren't starting over at all. They might lose JThomas and TKnighton, but they are still 15m under the cap after tagging DThomas. They are still one of the favorites going into 2015.

 

[big dog cowboy]

That is not fair at all - especially when you take into consideration that Dez needed a handler.

Dez is an elite talent and will get paid like one. Murray is a very good RB but it is a devalued position in this league and will get paid accordingly. Having a personal handler doesn't change either one of those facts.

 

[Plankton]

True.

And that didn't turn out all rosey either.

It was a bad trade. Dutton was miscast as a 4-3 DT (he was a Pro Bowler as a 3-4 DE when with the Colts), and he never made a big impact in Dallas.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

True.

And that didn't turn out all rosey either.

I thought Dutton played pretty well for us. Now, you can absolutely question if he was worth what we traded for him but I thought Dutton was a pretty good player for us in Dallas.

 

[DandyDon1722]

There's been a team in New England that hasn't had to go "all-in" to be competitive year after year. To a lesser extent Pittsburgh and Baltimore have done the same thing.

You know how to keep a team competitive year after year?

Draft better than the other guys, don't make stupid trades and jettison players a year early rather than a year late.

Face it, the Cowboys history with "all-in" isn't too sterling.

Then you have others like the Commanders and Eagles who've gone down that path too and failed miserably.

Regardless, we'll all soon know which path this year's version of the Cowboys is taking.

Michael you made my point for me - the common denominator will always be good to great QBs. I'll give you those three teams and raise you Buffalo, Kansas City & Oakland with a lot of mediorocrity in between.

You're right though - it'll play out and we'll see what happens.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

I think you're going to end up disappointed.

If we give Tony the best chance to get a ring we possibly can, then I wont be disappointed.

If we hold back and he misses, then I will be.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

Exactly, look at what John Elway and the Broncos did last year,, he went ALL IN with big money FA and lost in the 1st round of the playoffs and now forced to make major changes to the entire team and starting over....

We all know that peyton was playing injured....not even close to the same concept.

 

[Frosty]

We all know that peyton was playing injured....not even close to the same concept.

Lets see all the Free Agents they signed to make a SuperBowl run and were did it get them

Winston Justice, DWARE, Aquib Talib, Emmanul Sanders TJ Ward and Andre Caldwell.....All FA moves....one and done in the playoffs

 

[65fastback2plus2]

Lets see all the Free Agents they signed to make a SuperBowl run and were did it get them

Winston Justice, DWARE, Aquib Talib, Emmanul Sanders TJ Ward and Andre Caldwell.....All FA moves....one and done in the playoffs

and where did they go the year before with a worse defense and a healthier peyton? eggggsactly

 

[Nightman]

and where did they go the year before with a worse defense and a healthier peyton? eggggsactly

What were they supposed to do after making the SB the year before, fold up the tents and start over with a 37 year old QB??

It's a silly premise that isn't backed up by facts to help people support the theory that not spending money in FA is somehow a key to winning the SB.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Might have enough to get a olineman a dlineman and a lber via fa. All else will have to come from the draft.

 

[endersdragon]

What were they supposed to do after making the SB the year before, fold up the tents and start over with a 37 year old QB??

It's a silly premise that isn't backed up by facts to help people support the theory that not spending money in FA is somehow a key to winning the SB.

Here is the thing... spending huge $$$ on a guy with more red flags than a game of minesweeper won't win you a Super Bowl (just ask the Commanders) but neither will spending nothing. Fix your holes in free agency, that way you can draft the true BPA when your time comes.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

What were they supposed to do after making the SB the year before, fold up the tents and start over with a 37 year old QB??

It's a silly premise that isn't backed up by facts to help people support the theory that not spending money in FA is somehow a key to winning the SB.

bingo...by their premise...adding better players on defense made their qb fold up lol.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

I've grown to despise the whole "all in" mindset.

The Cowboy teams from the late 60's until the late 80's never operated on that principle... "Roger's getting older– we better go 'all in". Nonsense.

Exactly. Going "all in" is how you don't win super bowls. Unless you have a historically good team, its odds of winning a Super Bowl in any one year are fairly slim. You want a team that consistently makes the playoffs and is consistently competitive. You make the playoffs enough times, you increase your odds of seeing at least one Super Bowl over a multi year span.

It is like sending out a resume. Sending out one isn't likely to get you an interview. However, if you send out many, your odds of getting an interview increase.