Cowboys closer to 6-10 or 10-6?

CowboyGil

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11-5 yeah right. We don't have that type of talent. We are what our record says. Yeah we almost beat Denver Detroit and kc but we didnt. We did what we do best, lose close games against good teams. We also couldve lost to friggin Minnesota and the Commanders.... We found a way to lose to GB

Not to mention having to comeback against the Raiders.
 

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6-10 unless the draft is a home run. Then maybe 8-8. offense is overrated and the defense is downright awful. Only special teams are playoff caliber.
 

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If Romo is healthy the team can get to 8-8. If not and with the coming schedule , I think they're closer to 6-10. The team is just mediocre. It also depends on how strong the NFC East is next year.
 

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And people wonder why JJ will never change. I consider the fans on this site to be above your average Cowboys or football fans. Most in here are die-hard or close to being so, if not, why are we still here after 18 years of garbage. With that being said, if JJ can convince the true blue fans before the off season even begins that next year is going to be any different, the problems will never be corrected and you are proof that his entertainment theory is perfectly fine. JJ will never change doing things the way he does them because he knows that regardless of success on the field, the Cowboys are a success in his pocketbook. If his serious fans are already believing that we will drastically improve next year, what is the motive to do things that need to be done to make the team better?
 

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I picked the Cowboys to go 8-8 the prior two years but 10-6 this year. I could make a case for 10-6 this year but I won't. Your W-L record is your record. You can't change it although you can spin it although I won't do that either.

I think the talent on the team is improving or recent but I'm worried about retaining it forward. I don't follow the cap much so I don't know what things are going to look like in a few but this coming year will leave us with little options in FA IMO. We have less dead money on the book coming but that's subject to change and likely will.
 

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I'd like to see who we draft and if/who we sign in FA this offseason first but if I had to guess I'd go in the 7-9 8-8 range
 

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And people wonder why JJ will never change. I consider the fans on this site to be above your average Cowboys or football fans. Most in here are die-hard or close to being so, if not, why are we still here after 18 years of garbage. With that being said, if JJ can convince the true blue fans before the off season even begins that next year is going to be any different, the problems will never be corrected and you are proof that his entertainment theory is perfectly fine. JJ will never change doing things the way he does them because he knows that regardless of success on the field, the Cowboys are a success in his pocketbook. If his serious fans are already believing that we will drastically improve next year, what is the motive to do things that need to be done to make the team better?

I do think JJ wants to win. IMO it's a myth that financial success is enough for him. If all he wanted were financial success there are way better ways to do that than running a football team. I used to work at sales and got pretty good at reading body language. A salesman who's lousy at reading body language = a lousy salesman. It's an essential skill in that profession. Whenever they show Jerry after a loss, what I read from his body language is that he absolutely cannot stand losing. He hates losing with a passion and is determined to do whatever he can to build a winner. Unfortunately, determination is not always enough. No matter how much a person hates losing, that is not guarantee that he'll come up with a good strategy to win. He might just keep on losing and keep on hating it. He might just stay too stubborn to take a cold hard look at the reasons why his team keeps losing.
 

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And people wonder why JJ will never change. I consider the fans on this site to be above your average Cowboys or football fans. Most in here are die-hard or close to being so, if not, why are we still here after 18 years of garbage. With that being said, if JJ can convince the true blue fans before the off season even begins that next year is going to be any different, the problems will never be corrected and you are proof that his entertainment theory is perfectly fine. JJ will never change doing things the way he does them because he knows that regardless of success on the field, the Cowboys are a success in his pocketbook. If his serious fans are already believing that we will drastically improve next year, what is the motive to do things that need to be done to make the team better?



I hear ya. I am so sick of........wait for it.....wait for it,,,....LOSING

And i do hold the GM/Owner responsible. And i dont see it changing.....

But , i honestly believe,that JJ wants to win. He just can't. He can't put it all together again...
Make no mistake , what jimmy , mostly jimmy Johnson and jerry did in the early nineties was more than any fan could ask for. But, we are seeing now, that is was jimmy Johnson. Had very little to do with jerry.

Jerry wants to win badly. But for his own egocentric self. And ....at this point, it's become clear to me, that he isn't willing to step down for the better of the franchise , it's players, and the fans......

The stubborn rich old fool will do it his way or no way at all.....and, we will see the same results , year after year after year.......I'm going to be rooting like hell, for a lot of luck, even a blind dog finds a bone every now and then,...
 

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I do not think that "good 11-5 team" exists by and large.

The key is winning at the very end. The key is to hover around five hundred.

Just wait to get lucky and strike it hot at the right time you can be a champion.

Or so Jerry Jones has been saying.

NOBODY has that philosophy to start a football season. It's talked about more than ever because it has happened recently giving the IMPRESSION that anyone can get there. If it's true and it may be then free agency and the salary cap has done what they were supposed to do. It makes sure tight wad suck *** owners have the same chance as owners that are willing to throw down the money for talent can still win games. And teams that supposedly cant raise the revenue to compete with big market teams will be able to be more competitive. Personally I think the players being more immature and having too much say so in how much they work and making too much money distracts them untill late in the season and in contract years when they're fightin for a job or they realize they've nearly pissed the season away or they wanna hit the lottery on a new contract only then do you see what they can do. Sorry for the rant, it wasn't meant to say your wrong because your probably right I just don't think it's talked about out loud in the locker room.

Since the Wild Card System began in 1970, only ten wild card teams have advanced all the way to the Super Bowl. Of those, six won the Super Bowl. Only four of those wild card teams -- New England Patriots, Pittsburgh Steelers, New York Giants, and Green Bay Packers -- won three games on the road to make it to the Super Bowl. - See more at: http://www.profootballhof.com/history/story.aspx?story_id=1940#sthash.qY2yqi98.dpuf
 

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To be fair. Although myself and many others expect more.......and, to be honest, it's the fact that Jerry has made himself GM and meddles with coaches , etc etc. ,but to be fair....


Here is a wiki on NFL Team droughts...... Other organization, and even the almighty Rooneys have gone long stretches with .......nothing. That's why the Super Bowl is so special......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...roughts#Active_Super_Bowl_appearance_droughts
 

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I think we are well on our way to 4-12 with the stupidity displayed at every level of our beloved Cowboys. All the boo rah rah about us having 10-11 wins this past season befuttles me.
Let's see how our draft plays out yet again
 

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The slightest improvement of our defense would of had us at least at 11-5....

So yeah.
 

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Didn't say we're good, said we could have been 11-5.

Simple mistakes caused us to blow leads against Det and GB, there's 10. Not throwing the pick against Den or getting a stop against KC late, and there's a good chance we win at least one of those games. There's your 11. Hardly unrealistic.

Dallas only lost 2 games to non-playoff teams, and both were in contention right up until the end.

All this with the worst defense in the league. Imagine if we were only average.
 

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I know each year is different in regards to teams. Injuries are huge especially to the QB position. Based on our schedule next year, I think we are closer to 6-10.

Seattle
San Fran
New Orleans
Arizona
Chicago
Indy

I think are better than we are. Philly will be tough and the Giants played us tough this year.

I see us beating:

Jax
Tenn
Houston
Wash x 2
NYG x 1
Philly x 1

at best we finish 7-9. I don't see how the defense can improve that much in one year. I think Ware is done, even though he could be brought back, I don't see him being that much better than this year. So who plays the DL? Lee can only be counted on for 11 games max. Will Carter, Mo, Carr, Wilcox improve from last year? Way too many questions on defense to expect a 10 win team.

Nice job. Totally agree
 

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The slightest improvement of our defense would of had us at least at 11-5....

So yeah.

I'll give you the Detroit game...

But what other games would have we won if the defense was better? People tend to forget that our offense was pretty anemic this year. The stats don't do it justice, they were flat out terrible in some games - constantly going three and out. If your defense is always on the field, then it's pretty hard for them to have any sort of sustained success.
 

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We will be better, so will every other team in the NFL. .500 will be lucky, thinking 7-9 which is closer to 6-10 than 10-6.
 

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A part of me died watching the Texas Stadium implosion.

then the sob builds a shopping mall expo event center.

jerry jones has ruined this team....

he could care less whether we win or lose.
 

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A part of me died watching the Texas Stadium implosion.

then the sob builds a shopping mall expo event center.

jerry jones has ruined this team....

he could care less whether we win or lose.

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In this NFL what really seems to make the difference between a 6-10 team, a 8-8 team and a 10-6 team is basically luck. A ball bounce a few ways during games, an official deciding to throw a flag at the right time, and an odd injury or two happening are what separate most of the teams in this league from each other. Anyone who really wants to argue that hasn't been watching football for a while now. Every year there are one or two teams that go above that level and are legitimately good and a few teams that fall below that level and are legitimately horrid. The Cowboys were 8-8 in a bad division because of a good helping of bad luck over all. A massive spate of injuries across the defense pretty much took what ever this team might have been and flushed it before the season started. It happens.

As far as next year goes my only answer is who the hell knows, because the difference between the team being 6-10 and 10-6 can be as little as one bad hit on Romo or a bunch of odd bounces going the wrong way.
 

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In this NFL what really seems to make the difference between a 6-10 team, a 8-8 team and a 10-6 team is basically luck. A ball bounce a few ways during games, an official deciding to throw a flag at the right time, and an odd injury or two happening are what separate most of the teams in this league from each other. Anyone who really wants to argue that hasn't been watching football for a while now. Every year there are one or two teams that go above that level and are legitimately good and a few teams that fall below that level and are legitimately horrid. The Cowboys were 8-8 in a bad division because of a good helping of bad luck over all. A massive spate of injuries across the defense pretty much took what ever this team might have been and flushed it before the season started. It happens.

As far as next year goes my only answer is who the hell knows, because the difference between the team being 6-10 and 10-6 can be as little as one bad hit on Romo or a bunch of odd bounces going the wrong way.

indeed. I dont think that teams can stay dominate for as long as they could in years past. 20 winning seasons in a row will probably never be done again. The salary cap, free agency and the talent has the league on more of a even playing field. Any given Sunday...
 
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