Cowboys could wait to sign Atogwe

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Do the Cowboys wait until June 1 to sign Atogwe when he's an unrestricted free agent? Otherwise, if they sign him to an offer sheet now, the Rams might just match it and the Cowboys are left with nothing.
http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***/archives/2010/03/david-moore-oshiomogho-is-on-dallas-cowb.html

Rams FS O.J. Atogwe will reach unrestricted free agency on June 1 if the team does not sign him to a long-term deal, guarantee a 2010 contract of $7 million, or trade his rights.

The predicament has to do with Atogwe's right of first refusal tender. Currently a restricted free agent, Atogwe can be signed to an offer sheet until April 15. If he fails to draw an offer, Atogwe can force the Rams' hand on the $7 million guaranteed, knowing that the team will lose his rights by June.
Source: Santa Rosa Press-Democrat
http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***/archives/2010/03/david-moore-oshiomogho-is-on-dallas-cowb.html
 

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I'll pass.

If we sign him, we're making the exact same mistake we made with Ken Hamlin.

Book it.
 
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NextGenBoys;3304650 said:
I'll pass.

If we sign him, we're making the exact same mistake we made with Ken Hamlin.

Book it.


lmao..the difference is he's 4X the playmaker Hamlin is.

go get him !
 

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rpatricc;3304646 said:
Do the Cowboys wait until June 1 to sign Atogwe when he's an unrestricted free agent? Otherwise, if they sign him to an offer sheet now, the Rams might just match it and the Cowboys are left with nothing.
http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***/archives/2010/03/david-moore-oshiomogho-is-on-dallas-cowb.html

Rams FS O.J. Atogwe will reach unrestricted free agency on June 1 if the team does not sign him to a long-term deal, guarantee a 2010 contract of $7 million, or trade his rights.

The predicament has to do with Atogwe's right of first refusal tender. Currently a restricted free agent, Atogwe can be signed to an offer sheet until April 15. If he fails to draw an offer, Atogwe can force the Rams' hand on the $7 million guaranteed, knowing that the team will lose his rights by June.
Source: Santa Rosa Press-Democrat
http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***/archives/2010/03/david-moore-oshiomogho-is-on-dallas-cowb.html

i think thats what jerry jones was eluding to, that some prospects arent available yet, but might be;
 

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I'm neutral to this whole thing. If they sign him a potential upgrade to Hamlin then fine. I'm ok with that. I'm also ok with not signing any of these guys and drafting someone. I'm perfectly content to go that route.
 

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CanuckCowboysFan;3304656 said:
lmao..the difference is he's 4X the playmaker Hamlin is.

go get him !

I'm not saying he's not better than Hamlin, he is.

But that's not saying much.

It's a mistake if we sign him to anything more than a one year deal. He's nothing special, and I want a special player at safety. It's holding our defense back.

The more aggressive we can be on the back end, the more it will tighten up our underneath coverage leading to sacks/picks.
 

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Jerry needs to wait until they know his shoulder is 100% before he does anything.
 

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NextGenBoys;3304689 said:
I'm not saying he's not better than Hamlin, he is.

But that's not saying much.

It's a mistake if we sign him to anything more than a one year deal. He's nothing special, and I want a special player at safety. It's holding our defense back.

The more aggressive we can be on the back end, the more it will tighten up our underneath coverage leading to sacks/picks.

How do you know he isn't special?
 

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CanuckCowboysFan;3304656 said:
lmao..the difference is he's 4X the playmaker Hamlin is.

go get him !
Hyperbole really just mutes these discussions. No one is 4 times as good as any NFL caliber player at any position. Especially one who is coming back from an injury like Atogwe is.

I swear that kind of crap just makes me :rolleyes:
 

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TheSport78;3304694 said:
How do you know he isn't special?

I dont know he's not special, but that's my opinion, and unless something drastic happens, I'm pretty firmly sold on it.
 

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NextGenBoys;3304707 said:
I dont know he's not special, but that's my opinion, and unless something drastic happens, I'm pretty firmly sold on it.

That's fine, but just remember he is a very solid player on a terrible defense. If you put him on a defense that's close to being elite, the sky is the limit for him; or he could be special.
 

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NextGenBoys;3304689 said:
I'm not saying he's not better than Hamlin, he is.

But that's not saying much.

It's a mistake if we sign him to anything more than a one year deal. He's nothing special, and I want a special player at safety. It's holding our defense back.

The more aggressive we can be on the back end, the more it will tighten up our underneath coverage leading to sacks/picks.


And who would that be?
 

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TheSport78;3304715 said:
That's fine, but just remember he is a very solid player on a terrible defense. If you put him on a defense that's close to being elite, the sky is the limit for him; or he could be special.

Several players look good on bad defenses.

Adam Archuleta rings a bell. The Skins and Bears found out the hard way.
 

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Hostile;3304706 said:
Hyperbole really just mutes these discussions. No one is 4 times as good as any NFL caliber player at any position. I swear that kind of crap just makes me :rolleyes:

I don't think it is hyperbole at all to say that Peyton Manning is 4 times as good as Sorgi. And I know Romo is 4 times as good as Jake Delhomme.

I sure there are many LBs out there 4 times better than Bobby Carpenter.:mad:
 

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CanuckCowboysFan;3304656 said:
lmao..the difference is he's 4X the playmaker Hamlin is.

go get him !

in the NFC West, and with an NFL's 3-13, 4-12 style schedule the last couple years. Fail.
 
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Hostile;3304706 said:
Hyperbole really just mutes these discussions. No one is 4 times as good as any NFL caliber player at any position. Especially one who is coming back from an injury like Atogwe is.

I swear that kind of crap just makes me :rolleyes:


lol..not so sure thats true. Might be exaggerating a little but he's definitely a huge upgrade. And I'd say Ed Reed is 4 X better then Hamlin, examples exist.
 
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NextGenBoys;3304689 said:
I'm not saying he's not better than Hamlin, he is.

But that's not saying much.

It's a mistake if we sign him to anything more than a one year deal. He's nothing special, and I want a special player at safety. It's holding our defense back.

The more aggressive we can be on the back end, the more it will tighten up our underneath coverage leading to sacks/picks.


what we need is someone who creates turnovers at safety. Only Reed has caused more turnovers the last couple seasons then Atogwe. On this defense I think he can be special. His age is the only problem.
 
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casmith07;3304742 said:
in the NFC West, and with an NFL's 3-13, 4-12 style schedule the last couple years. Fail.


please, get real. Atogwe's an upgrade over Hamlin, nothing you say, show, think changes that. Excuses, Excuses.
 

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ninja;3304734 said:
I don't think it is hyperbole at all to say that Peyton Manning is 4 times as good as Sorgi. And I know Romo is 4 times as good as Jake Delhomme.

I sure there are many LBs out there 4 times better than Bobby Carpenter.:mad:
It is hyperbole. I am sorry that you cannot recognize that ninja. Damn that's sad man.
 
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