Cowboys defense - Not all bad

[CATCH17]

Oh please it's been horrible.


I'm not going to say it doesn't have upside but so far they have been awful.

This is the worst I can remember a Cowboys defense being at stopping the run. It's a joke.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

You're just trolling now.

100%

 

[Melonfeud]

When in reality (you see what I did there)
It's our defense that makes the mistake 99 percent of the time. Blown coverage, too deep or too shallow of a lb drop, slip while in coverage/tackling, stupid penalties to sustain a drive, line up in the wrong position or two people covering the same person in this "simple to learn" scheme. And don't even get me started on turnovers.

"COPY THAT" the 2nd tier
(linebackers) are strictly a wait and 'see' reactionary anemic force ,,,(from the film clips I've took notice of),,, man! THAT DALLAS DOOMSDAY DEFENSE was the epitome of THE ATTACKING DEFENSE !
And it started in the FRONT LINE TRENCH
( sure! Sunny Jorgensen and that Kilmer dude could heave a beer-bellied pass against it,,,, sometimes,,,but STILL)




No oxymoron comments over the " ATTACKING DEFENSE " as I'll prolly stop following you and block you for prolly at least a fortnight,,,er,,,that's mandatory 10 days for the mental cripples

 

[xwalker]

To bad you DIDN'T post #4's casing-liner's in that Broncos game,,, as I'm thinking Dak threw for more yards in that loss than Trevor did in winning,,, why is that?

Dak 30 for 238.

Siemien 22 for 231.

 

[xwalker]

Rams scored 2 TDS. Why is it missing on your post?

The Cowboys scored 4 TDs and the Rams scored 2 TDs.

 

[xwalker]

Our defensive scheme relies on the other team's offense making self-inflicted mistakes or our defense getting turnovers. Long ago, that philosophy worked, but in today's NFL, teams are less likely to make mistakes against weak defenses and our defense is not generating turnovers.

I agree to an extent but there was a high probability of winning the Rams and Packers games if a play or two on offense had gone differently.

Considering the lack of experience on defense and the lack of talent (Heath, etc..) at some positions, the fact that they've been competitive in 4 of 5 games must mean the scheme is doing some things right.

 

[xwalker]

bend-and-dont-break = bent-over

Has it?

There was a good chance of winning the Packers game if not for TWill's blunder. Considering the extreme lack of experience and the lack of talent at some positions (Heath, etc), the scheme seems like it's kept them competitive.

 

[xwalker]

The middle of the defense has been awful. The safeties, MLB, and DT's have all been sub par......or worse.

You can't win in the NFL when the middle of the defense is playing the way it is.

Lee easily could have been the difference in the Packers and Rams games.

 

[Zman5]

The Cowboys scored 4 TDs and the Rams scored 2 TDs.

On your 1st post, you posted the following.

Rams game
Rams 7 field goals and 2 punts

My question was why did you only list the FG and not the TD the defense gave up to the Rams.

 

[LocimusPrime]

bend-and-dont-break = bent-over

Ouch

 

[waldoputty]

Has it?

There was a good chance of winning the Packers game if not for TWill's blunder. Considering the extreme lack of experience and the lack of talent at some positions (Heath, etc), the scheme seems like it's kept them competitive.

yes so good that everyone is arguing how to keep the ball from arod or it is a guaranteed loss.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Landon Collins and Reuben foster would have been great defensive selections

 

[xwalker]

When in reality (you see what I did there)
It's our defense that makes the mistake 99 percent of the time. Blown coverage, too deep or too shallow of a lb drop, slip while in coverage/tackling, stupid penalties to sustain a drive, line up in the wrong position or two people covering the same person in this "simple to learn" scheme. And don't even get me started on turnovers.

What you're describing makes it sound like the players have been the problem, not the scheme.

 

[stiletto]

Just need to keep drafting more guys like Jordoun Lewis and possibly Awuzie and less guys like Taco. They need to reevaluate the scouts who work on Defensive Linemen...

 

[Bluestang]

You're just trolling now.

200%.

I mentioned this in his Dez thread. It's too bad the forum as a whole doesn't see this yet. The OP has a history of these types of threads.

 

[xwalker]

yes so good that everyone is arguing how to keep the ball from arod or it is a guaranteed loss.

The TWill blunder was likely a 10 or 14 point swing. It was 7 points for GB but probably took away a field goal on that drive by the Cowboys.

Even with the TWill blunder, the Cowboys were a run play to use up clock away from winning. Considering they played a top 2 QB, it's hard to blame all of that game on the defense.

 

[xwalker]

Cowboys defense is 32nd in the league in Points per Drive Allowed (2.42 per drive) -- possibly the most telling single metric that tells you about the quality of an overall defense in comparison to other defenses in the league.

Cowboys defense is 29th in the league in Yards allowed per Drive.

There are only 4 teams with less take-aways defensively.

The stats, so far, portray a very poor defense.

Their points per drive stat was not goog last year but their total points allowed was top 5. That indicates the total number of drives faced was limited because the offense controlled the ball.

The high picks on the OL and a top 5 pick on Zeke was intended to help the defense but that plan has been a problem this season.

 

[xwalker]

It can work if you have a good tackling defense that rallies to the ball. Those kind of hits can cause turnovers and deflections that lead to interceptions.

For whatever reason this season, the defense doesn't rally to the ball, and their tackling is horrendous. Couple those things, and you get what the Cowboy defense is doing.

CB #1 Rookie
CB #2 2nd year
SS Heath
MLB Jaylon
Starting 1-tech gimps through 4 games, misses game 5, then retires.

I'm not convinced the scheme is the problem.

 

[xwalker]

Just need to keep drafting more guys like Jordoun Lewis and possibly Awuzie and less guys like Taco. They need to reevaluate the scouts who work on Defensive Linemen...

Maybe, but DLaw had 9 tackles and zero sacks his rookie season. Taco was a similar type player to DLaw in college but actually better.

Very few DEs are really good as rookies.

 

[xwalker]

On your 1st post, you posted the following.



My question was why did you only list the FG and not the TD the defense gave up to the Rams.

If you look at the overall post and the title I'm pointing out the positives of the defense.

The field goals represent partial stops by the defense.

Did I list TDs on the other games?