Cowboys defensive rankings during Super Bowl years

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But the Trolls are ok? Yeah, well I disagree.
I’ve called both out. You’re flaming the fire inciting and trolling them. It’s an endless bottomless pit from both sides. Neither is attractive at this point. Trolling is trolling and hate is hate. There is no end game.
 

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1971 they were 7th
1977 they were 8th
1992 they were 5th
1993 they were 2nd
1995 they were 3rd

Hopefully this will shut the Dak haters up but it won't. Can't wait to see the excuses coming. :popcorn:

Preparing the excuse foundation when Dak falls on his face once again esp against teams with winning records.
Oh well, another Dak another dollar!
 

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Dak never had good defenses. 2016 was just average at best. 20th in turnovers, 19th in yards allowed. What a good defense.

Probably worse than average. Our offense kept them off the field and they still gave up a lot of yards. And our O hardly turned it over. What did Dak have, 4 picks? That's insane. Our balanced, turnover free offense is what won so many games in 2016. It's rare, but it can happen. Dallas needed to go turnover free against the Packers and they did not. Still almost pulled it off.

Dak had a decent D in 2018 although a bit inconsistent. No offense. That's why Cooper. All teams need playmakers to be successful.
 

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Turnovers were also the reason the Cowboys won Super Bowls 28 and 30 in '93 and '95.

In Super Bowl 28, the Bills are leading 10-6 with 1:22 left before the half. Aikman throws an INT on the Bill's 37 which is returned 41 yards. from there, the Bills make it 13-6 and they get the ball to open the 2nd half. Things aren't looking good for the Cowboys.

But then the Bills Thurman Thomas fumbles the ball and Mark Washington returns it for a TD. That opens the floodgates.

Of course, in Super Bowl 30, the game is sealed by Larry Brown's 2nd INT.

In Super Bowl 12, the Cowboys intercept Craig Morton 4 times in the 1st half and the game is pretty much over.

In Super Bowl 6 the scoring begins when Chuck Howley (of course) recovers a Larry Czonka fumble. Czonka did not have a single fumble the entire regular season.

Just as the 4th quarter begins, it is 17-3 Cowboys but the Dolphins begin making a serious drive. If they score a TD, it's a game. Now everyone is nervous because this is supposed to be the game where the Cowboys win "the Big One" for the first time in their history after so many close losses.

They are almost at the middle of the field when Chuck Howley (OF COURSE!) intercepts the ball and returns it to the Dolphin 9. Two plays later Staubach throws the TD to seal the game.

This was not the Super Bowl where Chuck Howley was made the MVP....that was the previous Super Bowl.

WHY IS CHUCK HOWLEY NOT IN THE HALL OF FAME???!!!

Different subject but, my gosh, how can this be?

I do remember SB 28 when Buffalo could have went up 17-6. How can I forget? Holding them to 3 and Thomas fumbling was the turning point.

Similar to the Ricky Waters fumble in the '92 game against the 49ers. Things started to settle in their favor until that happened. The feel of the game completely changed.

I Didn't get to watch Chuck Howley play. I was really young when I started watching games in the '74 season. But I do get to see him play in some of the full games I can find. He does seem to be Johnny on the spot more often than not.

That interception by him that he took to the 9, was that the one where he stumbled or otherwise may have scored? I seem to remember that.
 

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I’m going to call out both until this ends. Or corralled in one place. It’s my new mission.
Who made you El Presidente in our lovely CZ?
Dang must have missed the vote......:oops:

P.S.His ultimate motive here is to once again coral all the Dak non-believers and keep them silent.
 
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I want to corral the extremes on both sides in one place like we had to do with Romo so the rest of us can have normal discussions.

We definitely need this for Dak. And it appears the best solution creating a playground for both extremes.

I’d encourage everyone to join the crusade to relieve the forum of this distraction and bottomless pit of regurgitation and dribble .

Start a Dak forum for the Homers and Haters.
 

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I’ve been calling out Dak slobberers for years . Now I’m going after the Haters too . Time to place them all in one forum.

They are going to fight back cause they want a free rein to terrorize throughout .
 

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Your feels don't replace actual numbers.

Except I actually posted real numbers a few pages back for 2016. It wasn’t a very good defense.

Dig deeper than points per game, for example. Their PPG average was artificially enhanced by the fact they were on the field less than most teams. When you compared all defenses equally on a points per drive basis, the Cowboys defense was mediocre.
 

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I’ve been calling out Dak slobberers for years . Now I’m going after the Haters too . Time to place them all in one forum.

They are going to fight back cause they want a free rein to terrorize throughout .
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Diehardblues

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I actually posted real numbers a few pages back for 2016. It wasn’t a very good defense.

Dig deeper than points per game, for example. Their PPG average was artificially enhanced by the fact they were on the field less than most teams. When you compared all defenses equally on a points per drive basis, the Cowboys defense was mediocre.
The Trolls are going to push back hard since their stats which are spurred by total points not yards doesn’t measure up. It’s typical finding a stat which supports the spin. Classic Troll technique.

But they don’t want to discuss how total yards which is the official NFL measurement ranking defenses has stood the test of time measuring all of the great defenses in NFL history.
 

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I’ve been calling out Dak slobberers for years . Now I’m going after the Haters too . Time to place them all in one forum.

They are going to fight back cause they want a free rein to terrorize throughout .
Won’t make the forum any better. The other topics also spark the same arguments repeatedly. The only thing that will improve the forum is if people drop their extreme biased opinions, attempted to be somewhat objective and respected differing opinions. That is just not going to happen.
 

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Won’t make the forum any better. The other topics also spark the same arguments repeatedly. The only thing that will improve the forum is if people drop their extreme biased opinions, attempted to be somewhat objective and respected differing opinions. That is just not going to happen.
It worked creating one for Romo. And then strictly enforcing throughout.

It’s the same basis we have for other subjects corralled into one setting.

I wish there was a better way . As we learned with Romo there wasn’t. The Homers are going to continue slobbering inciting responses and the Haters are trolling threads when he becomes subject matter.

At least a pinned thread .
 

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Your feels don't replace actual numbers.

In 2016 the Cowboys were 5th in scoring defense. People point to that as proof it was a really good defense. But when you dig further you find:

- They were 14th in yards per game
- They were 27th in interceptions
- They were 16th in total turnovers forced
- They were 16th in TD passes allowed
- They were 31st in completion percentage allowed
- They were 24th in opposing QB rating
- They were 13th in sacks
- They were 23rd in yards allowed per drive
- They were 12th in points allowed per drive
- They were 20th in turnovers per drive
- They were 28th in plays per drive
- They were 14th in DVOA

They were good at stopping the run that's about it.

For comparison, in 2016, the Broncos were the 4th best scoring defense, similar to the Cowboys.

- They were 4th in yards per game
- They were 12th in interceptions
- They were 7th in total turnovers forced
- They were 1st in TD passes allowed
- They were 1st in completion percentage allowed
- They were 1st in opposing QB rating
- They were 3rd in sacks
- They were 3rd in yards allowed per drive
- They were 3rd in points allowed per drive
- They were 12th in turnovers per drive
- They were 16th in plays per drive
- They were 1st in DVOA

The point being when you looked beyond points per game, the majority of other stats showed the Broncos defense was very good. When you looked at the Cowboys, you realized that their low points per game total was an outlier. And when you dug further you found that the main reason they kept their points allowed per game down was because they were on the field less than most of the other statistically top defenses.

If you want to criticize Dak, have at it. He's open to criticism. But claiming he failed some really good defensive teams is pretty humorous.
 

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just wondering, in 16 how many games were we playing with the lead and the defense was playing their bend but don't break defense?
 

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It worked creating one for Romo. And then strictly enforcing throughout.

It’s the same basis we have for other subjects corralled into one setting.

I wish there was a better way . As we learned with Romo there wasn’t. The Homers are going to continue slobbering inciting responses and the Haters are trolling threads when he becomes subject matter.

At least a pinned thread .
That is because we were much better at respecting other opinions and they just needed to clean that one topic up. And the two biggest Romo instigators were Giants fans (Cowboys Bragger and Casper). Most of the others were drive-by Romo haters who showed up to vent after a loss.
 

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That is because we were much better at respecting other opinions and they just needed to clean that one topic up. And the two biggest Romo instigators were Giants fans (Cowboys Bragger and Casper). Most of the others were drive-by Romo haters who showed up to vent after a loss.
don't forget AC and the playboy guy who only dated 10's. don't remember his name. Seems like he had a guy in uniform avatar. AC wrote out a crying thread about how Romo hurt him and went Hollywood. lol.
 

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just wondering, in 16 how many games were we playing with the lead and the defense was playing their bend but don't break defense?
Let them blame everything under the Sun in the end the facts and his performances against good teams are dismal at best.
Garbage Dak in the house when the 4th Q starts and were down by 20+ points.....of course, he falls a dollar and a day short!!!!
 

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That is because we were much better at respecting other opinions and they just needed to clean that one topic up. And the two biggest Romo instigators were Giants fans (Cowboys Bragger and Casper). Most of the others were drive-by Romo haters who showed up to vent after a loss.
Yes, and this is a topic which needs cleaning up as well.

We currently have a few of those type characters as well as one Homer who continues inciting them.

No red flags in attaching 666 to Dak. Shocking this religious slander is allowed.

I guess the purse is more powerful than the pen. If that’s the case in this forum then I won’t be here much longer. Or I’ll offer to buy them all out.
 

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Except I actually posted real numbers a few pages back for 2016. It wasn’t a very good defense.

Dig deeper than points per game, for example. Their PPG average was artificially enhanced by the fact they were on the field less than most teams. When you compared all defenses equally on a points per drive basis, the Cowboys defense was mediocre.
I believe the moral of the story is that stats can be construed by either party in any debate to support a narrative.
No different than Dak extremists waving stats as valid evidence to support their claim.
 

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One homer. lol, not the Rockport, he's not even a Cowboys fan. I think he's an Eagles fan who enjoys inciting the Cowboys fans. I can see him setting in his section 8 house wearing his Wentz shirt laughing at us Cowboys fans.
 
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