Cowboys did not have 1st round grade on Taco

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RingOfHonor88 said:

See, now this pisses me off.

If you aren't taking a 1st Rd player over a 2nd Rd player, wth are you doing with that player on your board?
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Because you have to look at who else is available.

Lets say I got a 2nd round grade on Taco and a 2rd round grade on one other DE and that's it. However, lets say I have one CB with a first round grade, but four other CBs with 2nd round grades. I know that if I pass on the DE at 28, the odds of getting that other DE are slim and none, but if I take the DE, I know that I got four more CBs on my board that I can get in the 2nd round.

So the smart move is to take the DE at 28, because at pick 60 there will be no more DEs available that are starter quality. However, the odds are that a CB with a 2nd round grade will still be available at pick 60.
 
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They are saying there was a player left on their board who was in their top 18 that they didn't select and took a player with a second round grade or later on. Why wouldn't you shake your head at that?
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I didn't even state my opinion on how I feel about that. Just making a statement it was practically a 2nd round pick at 28.
 
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RingOfHonor88 said:
What a ridiculous take. You don't jump values by a full round. Period.
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Not all 1st round grades are created equally.

They had a first round grade on Myles Garrett too, does that mean they valued him the same as King?

They likely had a late first round grade on King, and an early 2nd round grade on Taco. They'll get a corner at 60 that's graded almost as highly as King.
 
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At least in the presser....Thats NOT what Stephen said.

He said that they had 18 players graded as 1st rounders and there was still one left going into tomorrow.
He did not mention where Taco was ranked.

These guys made that assumption.

He also didn't say the remaining 1st round grade was a corner, but he did say there were a ton a good corners left and they liked their odds of getting a good one in the 2nd round.
So maybe it is a corner, maybe its not.
 
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I have always felt that grading players as 1st round, 2nd round, etc and doing it the same way every year is unbelievably stupid. That goes doubly when you are picking at the end of the round.

If Taco was the 19th player ranked on the board but we passed on the 17th then who cares? If there are 6 more corners in your top 60 then the decision should be very easy.
 
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I would be upset if there was still a stud CB out there and passed on him, but......there is not. Some good ones but no stud. If Conley was sitting there at 28, he would be moving to Dallas.
 
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Verdict said:
What difference does it make if there was one still on the board when we picked and we didn't choose him?
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Because the DE's available at our 2nd round pick probably have 3rd or 4th round grades, and there will be plenty of CBs with second round grades. The "best player available" approach is not a zero sum game. Just as you don't take a QB who might be BPA if you have one, sometimes you factor in what will be available with your later picks. What if we took that CB at 18? And the BPA at 60 was also a CB? Should we force and take another CB? I wish the BPA advocates could appreciate that that BPA is a goal, but that teams draft "horizontally" and "vertically", meaning they rank players from top to bottom (vertically) and also by position (horizontally). So, when the horizontal board is thin at a position of need (DE) but thick at another position of need (CB), the player at the thin position may be the pick, even if the player at thick position is rated higher on the vertical board.
 
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Beast_from_East said:
Because you have to look at who else is available.

Lets say I got a 2nd round grade on Taco and a 2rd round grade on one other DE and that's it. However, lets say I have one CB with a first round grade, but four other CBs with 2nd round grades. I know that if I pass on the DE at 28, the odds of getting that other DE are slim and none, but if I take the DE, I know that I got four more CBs on my board that I can get in the 2nd round.

So the smart move is to take the DE at 28, because at pick 60 there will be no more DEs available that are starter quality. However, the odds are that a CB with a 2nd round grade will still be available at pick 60.
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Lol, no you don't have to look at who else is available. I don't care one bit if there was only going to be DEs at 60 with 3rd Rd grades. You don't have to take one there either. And if you did force the pick on a 3rd Rd DE at 60 over a 2nd Rd CB, explain exactly how that's different than than forcing a 2nd Rd DE over a 1st Rd CB? In either case they are reaching by a full Rd grade. It's ok to reach like that in the 1st, but suddenly in the 2nd it's ok?
 
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