Cowboys Draft Class Rated Amongst NFL's Best Rookie Groups

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We have cap space for the future, to keep the guys who make us competitive, and the team, in tact.

What's not to like?

I hated the days when Jerry was opening his wallet for every Dick, Tom, and Harry FA.

You mean like Deion Sanders, Charles Haley, or Laroi Glover?
 

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Take Elliott for example.

For a time, he was one of the best backs in the league. One could argue it was a good pick by the Jones. But in the grand scheme of things what did that selection of Elliott get us? Nothing. In fact, at the end, that pick has likely hurt us more than it helped us as Jerry felt obligated to give into Elliott and give him a ridiculous contract.
 

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You don't whiff on a rookie 3rd round pick from a small school who sat behind other vets drafted before him.

That would imply that your previous drafts were no good.

You can do what all day?

It's quite possible nobody whiffed here. Given Tolbert was from a small school, it's expected he'll take time..
The guys only contribution this season was lining up offside in a crucial moment of a game. Small school or not. You learn that before college I am pretty sure.

Also. You want to speak about prior drafts? They reached for Kelvin Joseph because they REFUSED to sign a CB in FA. When there were better corners and players on the board. That is the problem. FA isnt the plague. Its meant to fill holes with quality players so you go into the draft being able to take BPA. I am not saying go out and drop 100 million on someone. I just want them to sign someone in week 1 of FA for once.
 

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Those were all moves made because they realized they messed up in the offseason. That's it. They had no depth along the OL so at the first injury they had to scramble. They went cheap at WR after they dumped Cooper and had to scramble to bring Hilton in after it was obvious they had a WR problem halfway through the season. People on this board knew they had WR issues in August but Jerry and Stephen were smart everyone said, trust them.

Hankins was brought in because they were getting mowed in the run game. Crazy though, how about sure up the DT in the offseason and not halfway through the year?
I wish I could like this twice. I said the exact same thing.

We are supposed to throw flowers at the FO for fixing their own damn mistakes from the off-season? LOL
 

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You don't whiff on a rookie 3rd round pick from a small school who sat behind other vets drafted before him.

That would imply that your previous drafts were no good.

You can do what all day?

It's quite possible nobody whiffed here. Given Tolbert was from a small school, it's expected he'll take time..
This is revisionist history.

There were numerous threads on this board about the WR back in August. And the homers here all shouted down those criticizing what they had done at WR by suggesting that Gallup would be back really soon and have no effects from his injury and that Tolbert would also help fill the void left by Cooper. And that Dallas had done enough at WR heading into the season and didn't need to add anyone else.

For the Jones' homers to now suggest that we should have never expected much from Tolbert given his rawness is hilarious but utterly predictable.
 

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I wish I could like this twice. I said the exact same thing.

We are supposed to throw flowers at the FO for fixing their own damn mistakes from the off-season? LOL
I'll give them credit for one thing they did mid-season. They were smart enough to stay away from the shiny object that was OBJ and came back with Hilton. Taking OBJ on despite the red flags would have been a typical Jerry move but they didn't overthink it. So credit to them for that.
 

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I'll give them credit for one thing they did mid-season. They were smart enough to stay away from the shiny object that was OBJ and came back with Hilton. Taking OBJ on despite the red flags would have been a typical Jerry move but they didn't overthink it. So credit to them for that.
Get ready for Hopkins or Michael Thomas this offseason.
 

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You mean like Deion Sanders, Charles Haley, or Laroi Glover?
A lot of those players were pre-cap era.

I'm talking post-cap era.

I know some are stuck in 30 years ago, but that's irrelevant to me.
 

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All of this great drafting and yet only 3 playoff wins in 27 years and not a sniff of the NFC championship game. So who’s the blame of the front office is so great. I mean at the end of the day playoff wins are what’s important or is it?
 

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You don't like Peters, Hankins, Hilton, or Rhoads? I think they are doing just fine in free agency. Try again, lol.
I think the problem is the team didn't see the need for any of them until after injuries or issues at the position became too obvious to ignore.

In other words, they were all reactive signings rather than proactive ones.
 

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Article didn't even mention Ridgeway, who was starting for the Commanders late in the season. Pretty good draft class.
 

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Get ready for Hopkins or Michael Thomas this offseason.
This would be the dumbest thing we could do. We need depth on defense, Daks has the learn to elevate the talent on offense, he wanted the big bucks and this cost him having great talent around him. Money needs to be invested on defense in FA, draft, etc. sign Pollard to comfortable contract, if he wants more get a good rb in round 2 or three. No more hefty contracts on offense bc it’s less to losing for 27 years, defense wins championships
 

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Best drafting owner in all of football. Boy I love saying that....And

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This is revisionist history.

There were numerous threads on this board about the WR back in August. And the homers here all shouted down those criticizing what they had done at WR by suggesting that Gallup would be back really soon and have no effects from his injury and that Tolbert would also help fill the void left by Cooper. And that Dallas had done enough at WR heading into the season and didn't need to add anyone else.

For the Jones' homers to now suggest that we should have never expected much from Tolbert given his rawness is hilarious but utterly predictable.

Not true.

I was particularly interested in how our young WRs were progressing during the offseason. Guys like Fehoko, Washington, Tolbert, etcetera were on my radar.

Did I have high-hopes for them? Yeah, and I was likely off on my evaluation of those players. I still think Fehoko has the tools. We'll see next year if he's able to break the roster. I suspect he'll realize that if he hasn't made it by the 3rd year, he won't make it, and put in the work this offseason. I also wouldn't count out Tolbert. The truth is, those guys haven't played much, so we really don't know what they could bring at this point.

The Cowboys weren't willing to develop them on the job, and I'm cool with that.

But look at Noah Brown, for example, he wasn't perfect, but he was sufficient, and he proved the Cowboys did have a plan, despite banking on young guys who "never panned out."

It's not so much about being homers, but call it that if it makes you feel better. It's about whether or not you agree with the philosophy the Cowboys have been following.

And I, for one, do.

While I rooted for Tolbert, Fehoko, Washington to develop, I also posted early on that we should get either Fuller or Hilton, and we ended up getting Hilton, who is about equal to OBJ.

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/the-cowboys-really-need-will-fuller.502956/

It's yet to be seen if Hilton can fill the void of Amari Cooper. But let's not forget, the Bucs game is at Tampa, and Amari had this bad habit of disappearing in away games.

On the other hand, some might argue that Hilton is a more logical replacement for Cooper, and at 1/20th of the price, which seems to me that the Cowboys made out like bandits, given how Amari hasn't done much in the playoffs, and T.Y. has played in 5 playoff games.

So . . . who's rewriting history?
 

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This would be the dumbest thing we could do. We need depth on defense, Daks has the learn to elevate the talent on offense, he wanted the big bucks and this cost him having great talent around him. Money needs to be invested on defense in FA, draft, etc. sign Pollard to comfortable contract, if he wants more get a good rb in round 2 or three. No more hefty contracts on offense bc it’s less to losing for 27 years, defense wins championships
Daks contract isn’t why they got rid of coopers contract. This narrative needs to stop. I’m just saying what Jerry will do. He was ready to trade a second for cooks
 

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I think the problem is the team didn't see the need for any of them until after injuries or issues at the position became too obvious to ignore.

In other words, they were all reactive signings rather than proactive ones.
When you're paying the bills, you can go be proactive. ;)
 
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