Cowboys Free Agent Wishlist

[BAZ]

If Johnny Manziel ends up on this team can we stop calling him Johnny Football? That name drives me nuts. What player out there is not playing football? Geez.

Hayden.

 

[MRV52]

Jesus
Peter
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Judas

 

[LatinMind]

Here are the players that I would like us to sign and draft.

QB
Johnny Manziel [Potential Trade] - There are two ways I could see us getting him. Either in a trade in which I would want to incorporate Josh Gordon somehow. I'd give the Browns maybe a 3rd or a 4th round pick for both Gordon and Manziel. If he were released, I would pick him up off of waivers and let him sit the next two years. He has flashed ability, and it would be worth bringing him in to see if he can mature and grow under Tony Romo. I think sometimes people forget this guy is still pretty young. I wouldn't write him off entirely yet. I think the key here is that he would be your 3rd guy. You would still want to get one of these other guys. 2 million dollars per year.

Robert Griffin III - As much as people dislike the guy, he also has ability. I don't think he ever got a fair shot in Washington, and in that I don't mean that Washington was unfair to him, he might have been just as responsible for that as anyone else. What I mean was he never got a real opportunity to grow as a QB in one system. Would be a great backup option. 4-5 million dollars per year.

Matt Moore - I think we've all liked this guy for a long time. He is the quintessential backup QB. Should have picked him up when we had the chance. 2.5 million dollars per year.

Kaepernick - If Kaepernick was available, I would certainly want him to be the #2. I'm guessing another team would want to start him though. I would cap out at about 6-7 million dollars per year. Wouldn't get him and Manziel though.

Any of these guys would help prevent us from reaching for a QB in the draft.

Low end total - 4.5 million
High end total - 7 million

RB
Lamar Miller - Miller excels in a ZBS and would do even better with improved blocking in Dallas compared to Miami. With assured carries, Miller could even be a star here. I would definitely get him, and probably even make him the starter over McFadden, who did a good job here this year, but never excelled in the ZBS. If we got Miller, I'd hope we wouldn't need to address RB high in the draft. I don't think Miller will break the bank either, as I think I've seen suggested here already. Probably 4-6 million per year.

Lance Dunbar - I think the front office isn't quite sure what to do with Dunbar. He will probably make a bit of bank on the open market given what he did in the first few games here, but there will be that question mark due to his injury. I'd at least like to see us resign him for one or two years. Miller, McFadden, Dunbar, would make for a good running back corp. Dunbar needs to know that running backs are a dime a dozen, especially with a deep market in the draft. 1.5 million dollars.

Low End Total - 10 million dollars
High End Total - 14.5 million dollars

WR
Alshon Jeffery - Doesn't have the speed I would like to enhance our offense, but does have the playmaking ability and would still require teams to account for him which would help open things up for our offense tremendously, especially if Miller is what we think he could be for us. Would help us with not having to draft a WR high in the draft. Signing him would basically mean forgoing replacing Hardy in free agency. That would be putting a lot of pressure and responsibility on Gregory, who really hasn't shown us that he can deliver. Probably give him 9-11 million per year.

Josh Gordon [Trade] - If we can't get Jeffery, Josh Gordon would be an interesting choice, it would mean we wouldn't have to draft a guy who might take two or three years to develop. We would have a top flight offense with him and Dez on opposite corners and if they could both stay out of trouble and stay healthy. I still think it is possible that the Browns cut ties with both he and Manziel altogether. In which I would offer him a one year prove it deal. His cost would depend mostly on how you get him, but lets say it was equivalent to the 2nd round tender of 2.5 million. We won't be going forward with this scenario anyways.

Scenario A
Low End Total - 19 million
High End Total - 25.5 million

Scenario B
Low End Total - 12.5 million
High End Total - 16.5 million

Safety
Tashaun Gipson - Weddle and Berry are the names most mentioned, but I would actually get Gipson if possible. I'm still not sure I would go after a free safety in free agency when I want Jones to play Free Safety, but if we could get Gipson for a better price than Weddle or Berry, perhaps we could afford to have two Free Safeties out there. He got a 2nd round tender last year that he played on this year. Very young and very talented player. Probably looking at 7-9 million per year.

Low End Total - 26 million
High End Total - 34.5 million


Defensive Tackle
Tony McDaniel - McDaniel would be an instant upgrade over Hayden, period point blank. After the defensive upheaval in Tampa, I doubt he would re-sign there. 1.5 million dollars

Low End Total - 27.5 million
High End Total - 36 million

Middle linebacker
Rolando McClain - I would resign him one more time, and try to see if he can give us a full year. 3 million dollars.

Low End Total - 30.5 million
High End Total - 39 million

You can probably get there by restructuring Dez Bryant and Tyron Smith. I'd like to see Romo and Witten do team friendly pay cuts as well as the high end figure here might be difficult to pull off without their help and honestly, I'd love to see us add in Mario Williams as well, and that might be doable given that those numbers are based on average salaries, not what their 2016 salaries would be.

Nobody is going to trade for Manziel because everybody already knows CLE is going to release him. Worst kept secret in the NFL. But Jerry and his love for manziel are there. I think Moore will be the backup next yr, and i can see Manziel being the 3rd QB on the roster. Let him settle in and learn. Hes only 23 and wont turn 24 until next december. Dallas doesnt have to rush anything with QB just yet. You can always draft a QB in 2017. Dont be mad if the season starts and Dallas' QBs are Romo, Moore and Manziel.

On RB, would love to get Miller but i think this team will run with McFadden and draft a RB to take over.

WR, i dont really see this team doing much at WR. TW and Butler i think will battle it out for the #2 spot. Maybe a WR later in the draft to create some competition with Lucky. A WR i think this team could look at is Cayleb Jones from Arizona in the 6th. He has a little bit of a past, but Dallas seems to take some chances later in the draft.

 

[Galian Beast]

Nobody is going to trade for Manziel because everybody already knows CLE is going to release him. Worst kept secret in the NFL. But Jerry and his love for manziel are there. I think Moore will be the backup next yr, and i can see Manziel being the 3rd QB on the roster. Let him settle in and learn. Hes only 23 and wont turn 24 until next december. Dallas doesnt have to rush anything with QB just yet. You can always draft a QB in 2017. Dont be mad if the season starts and Dallas' QBs are Romo, Moore and Manziel.

On RB, would love to get Miller but i think this team will run with McFadden and draft a RB to take over.

WR, i dont really see this team doing much at WR. TW and Butler i think will battle it out for the #2 spot. Maybe a WR later in the draft to create some competition with Lucky. A WR i think this team could look at is Cayleb Jones from Arizona in the 6th. He has a little bit of a past, but Dallas seems to take some chances later in the draft.

I specifically said that any trade should include Josh Gordon as a package.

 

[Reality]

I specifically said that any trade should include Josh Gordon as a package.

One mistake and Gordon is gone for at least another year. Do you really think it is smart to tie up a roster spot with a guy that could be off the team at any random moment?

 

[Stash]

One mistake and Gordon is gone for at least another year. Do you really think it is smart to tie up a roster spot with a guy that could be off the team at any random moment?

Speaking for myself? For a team that kept Devon Street not only on the roster, but active while he contributed nothing all season? Yeah, I would take that risk in a heartbeat!

In my own view, I think offering a 4th or 5th round pick for a package deal of both Gordon and Manziel would make it most appealing to the Browns.

It would allow the new regime to move on from two known problem children while managing to get something in the process to save some face for the organization.

I wouldn't give them a bag of chips for Manziel at this point, but I would take him in a package deal that included Gordon.

From a talent perspective, I see Gordon as having 1st round ability, and if not for the off-filed stuff, he surely would be drafted there. And, our opinions aside, Jerry Jones has stated that Manziel was once considered a top 10 talent according to the Cowboys.

Given the team's compensatory picks this year, if I were running things, I'd offer the Browns a 4th rounder for both players. If it works out with either or both, it's a huge win. If it doesn't, I don't think a 4th rounder was a huge loss to try to find out.

 

[Galian Beast]

One mistake and Gordon is gone for at least another year. Do you really think it is smart to tie up a roster spot with a guy that could be off the team at any random moment?

I don't value roster spots nearly as much as most people do, perhaps even coaches. How many players do we have that never hit the active roster or get almost zero playing time. The idea that these positions are sacred doesn't quite cut mustard.

A guy like this can change our offense overnight and we could potentially get him at little cost and I think we could get him with Manziel who they want to get rid of as well, who could be a nice project for us. Low risk, high reward. Manziel is leaps and bounds better than Kellen Moore. Gordon is leaps and bounds better than Devin Street.

 

[Galian Beast]

Speaking for myself? For a team that kept Devon Street not only on the roster, but active while he contributed nothing all season? Yeah, I would take that risk in a heartbeat!

In my own view, I think offering a 4th or 5th round pick for a package deal of both Gordon and Manziel would make it most appealing to the Browns.

It would allow the new regime to move on from two known problem children while managing to get something in the process to save some face for the organization.

I wouldn't give them a bag of chips for Manziel at this point, but I would take him in a package deal that included Gordon.

From a talent perspective, I see Gordon as having 1st round ability, and if not for the off-filed stuff, he surely would be drafted there. And, our opinions aside, Jerry Jones has stated that Manziel was once considered a top 10 talent according to the Cowboys.

Given the team's compensatory picks this year, if I were running things, I'd offer the Browns a 4th rounder for both players. If it works out with either or both, it's a huge win. If it doesn't, I don't think a 4th rounder was a huge loss to try to find out.

Exactly right sir, exactly right.

Getting a mid round draft pick for two players you almost have to cut, is definitely a win for them. I could see them keeping Gordon, but that's also a tough sell, because you have to tender him, and he is still a free agent the next year. You definitely aren't going to franchise a guy like that, not if you're smart.

Trading them is good for the Browns, and trading for them helps us address two large needs for essentially nothing.

 

[Stash]

Exactly right sir, exactly right.

Getting a mid round draft pick for two players you almost have to cut, is definitely a win for them. I could see them keeping Gordon, but that's also a tough sell, because you have to tender him, and he is still a free agent the next year. You definitely aren't going to franchise a guy like that, not if you're smart.

Trading them is good for the Browns, and trading for them helps us address two large needs for essentially nothing.

That's the way I see it too. But I will add that I would also cover myself against either one flaming out. That's a key component of making sure this move remains low risk / high reward. If you make the mistake of counting on them without a backup plan, it then becomes a high risk deal.

 

[Doomsday101]

would love to get FS Eric Berry

 

[Doomsday101]

Carolina CB Josh Norman would love to go after him

Josh Norman has held DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, TY Hilton, Dez Bryant, Julio Jones to combined 9 rec/89 yards

 

[Galian Beast]

That's the way I see it too. But I will add that I would also cover myself against either one flaming out. That's a key component of making sure this move remains low risk / high reward. If you make the mistake of counting on them without a backup plan, it then becomes a high risk deal.

That's why I said we should get RG3 or Matt Moore or something.

I think Terrance Williams is good enough as a backup plan for now.

Imagine this depth

- Bryant
- Gordon
- Beasley
- Williams
- Butler

I like that receiving corps.

 

[Stash]

That's why I said we should get RG3 or Matt Moore or something.

I think Terrance Williams is good enough as a backup plan for now.

Imagine this depth

- Bryant
- Gordon
- Beasley
- Williams
- Butler

I like that receiving corps.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...in-no-hurry-on-johnny-manziel-or-josh-grodon/

 

[slick325]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...in-no-hurry-on-johnny-manziel-or-josh-grodon/

Nice try Sashi Brown but you can't put spilled milk back in the carton. Manziel is done in Cleveland. No reason for anyone to trade for him unless it's merely to avoid a bidding war for the player's services. I can't see that happening. Could be wrong but the market may not be there.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I appreciate your post too.
Lot of thought in it for our edification. Keep them coming. It's already a long offseason, mate!

 

[Stash]

Nice try Sashi Brown but you can't put spilled milk back in the carton. Manziel is done in Cleveland. No reason for anyone to trade for him unless it's merely to avoid a bidding war for the player's services. I can't see that happening. Could be wrong but the market may not be there.

I wouldn't give up a thing for Manziel.

 

[big dog cowboy]

In my own view, I think offering a 4th or 5th round pick for a package deal of both Gordon and Manziel would make it most appealing to the Browns.

Damn Stash. You might as well tell Cowboy fans to line up at AT&T and riot.

From a talent perspective, I see Gordon as having 1st round ability, and if not for the off-filed stuff, he surely would be drafted there. And, our opinions aside, Jerry Jones has stated that Manziel was once considered a top 10 talent according to the Cowboys.

So did Weeden.

 

[Stash]

Damn Stash. You might as well tell Cowboy fans to line up at AT&T and riot.

As long as they pay for tickets, sure.

So did Weeden.

Yeah, but he didn't come with a package that included Gordon.

 

[KingintheNorth]

Hayden.

Nicky NoSkillz

 

[KingintheNorth]

Carolina CB Josh Norman would love to go after him

Josh Norman has held DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, TY Hilton, Dez Bryant, Julio Jones to combined 9 rec/89 yards

He is going to be very, VERY expensive.