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I wonder what Glennon would cost us? 3rd rounder? 4th rounder? I am not sure I would go higher than that.

I would go a 4th, but no higher. Primary reason being that he'll be entering the final year of his rookie deal. Lovie Smith had acknowledged that they fielded calls for Glennon last offseason. Not sure how many teams or which one's made the calls? They may move him this season, as they could get something for him rather than letting him go in the offseason minus any compensation. If making the trade...I'd give him a reasonable extension straight away.

Given Romo's age & recent injury history...Glennon knows he may get a shot to play sooner rather than later.
 

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Bradham is pretty underrated. I would like to upgrade at LOLB for sure, it was pretty amazing we got by with a lot of Kyle Wilber. MLB too as I don't trust McClain at all.

The Dungy/Kiffin/Marinelli Tampa 2 style defense has made the position a non-priority. The SLB position has been routinely filled by JAGs - Carlos Jenkins and Broderick Thomas in Minnesota, Shelton Quarles, Al Singleton and Jeff Gooch in Tampa, Hunter Hillenmeyer in Chicago. They don't place any emphasis on it, so it likely won't be a player of any consequence.

MLB is a different story though.
 

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in a trade in which I would want to incorporate Josh Gordon somehow. I'd give the Browns maybe a 3rd or a 4th round pick for both Gordon and Manziel.

This section sticks out to me and the more I think about it, the more I agree that i would make that offer as well. But it wouldn't be the 3rd rounder, just the 4th.

I wouldn't give them a bag of chips right now for Manziel, as I think his actions have shown everyone that the Browns will move on anyway. But, if you add in the potential of Gordon, and what he's done on the field, I would give up the 4th rounder since we have a comp pick coming in the round anyway. Even if either or both guys flamed out, the investment isn't huge. Conversely, if either or both due pan out, the rewards would be great.

According to this article, the Cowboys had definite interest in Gordon is the supplemental draft:

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2012...ys-potentially-put-a-claim-in-for-josh-gordon

I think getting a draft pick, even a mid rounder, for both of these troubled players would be a win-win for both teams. Dallas can acquire talent on the cheap, and Cleveland can move on from both and feel good about getting 'something' in return.
 

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Low risk, high reward. Not sure what's difficult to understand about it.

Sort of like Joe Randle. Before you know it, he is out there, week in and week out........................................................................... playing;

dont even bring in JFF or RGme. Go get a no name arena league or someone from Europe or canada or maybe a sprinter from Africa. Just roll him out in either direction on every passing play and tell him to run forrest run. That would give us a better chance at winning then JFF or RGme.

Now KAP? I pay for Kap. ................... but he aint coming here;
 

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I really hope that the Cowboys stay away from Manziel. He is not the answer as a starter or a backup and I hope somebody can make sure Jerry stays away from him
 

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If Johnny Manziel ends up on this team can we stop calling him Johnny Football? That name drives me nuts. What player out there is not playing football? Geez.
 

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They had every reason to attempt to salvage Griffin considering what they gave up for him. Yet they saw enough the 2nd year to cut bait.

Now I'm not saying the Commanders are flawless decision makers but it's misleading to say they didn't give him an opportunity to grow in their system. They decided he wasn't worth the opportunity to grow in their system. That's a big difference.

I will pretty much lose my mind if we bring in one of these two rejects and don't go QB at 4. They may find me Belushi style overdosed on Jerry hate.

Might as lose well lose your mind from now. Goff most likely will be going to the Browns and the other faceless guy at qb doubt he even will get a sniff from Dallas. I think they will go after a FA QB.
 

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If Johnny Manziel ends up on this team can we stop calling him Johnny Football? That name drives me nuts. What player out there is not playing football? Geez.

You are not thinking big picture here bro, think about all the $$$$$ from selling T-shirts with "Johnny Football" across the front.:laugh:
 

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They were ready to move on...not disputing that at all. That was abundantly clear. However, the only reason he was "inactive " for 15 games was due to the option they stupidly picked up. Had they not picked the option up...he would have been active and actually may have played in games where Cousins struggled. Who knows...

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Here are the players that I would like us to sign and draft.

QB
Johnny Manziel [Potential Trade] - There are two ways I could see us getting him. Either in a trade in which I would want to incorporate Josh Gordon somehow. I'd give the Browns maybe a 3rd or a 4th round pick for both Gordon and Manziel. If he were released, I would pick him up off of waivers and let him sit the next two years. He has flashed ability, and it would be worth bringing him in to see if he can mature and grow under Tony Romo. I think sometimes people forget this guy is still pretty young. I wouldn't write him off entirely yet. I think the key here is that he would be your 3rd guy. You would still want to get one of these other guys. 2 million dollars per year.

Robert Griffin III - As much as people dislike the guy, he also has ability. I don't think he ever got a fair shot in Washington, and in that I don't mean that Washington was unfair to him, he might have been just as responsible for that as anyone else. What I mean was he never got a real opportunity to grow as a QB in one system. Would be a great backup option. 4-5 million dollars per year.

Matt Moore - I think we've all liked this guy for a long time. He is the quintessential backup QB. Should have picked him up when we had the chance. 2.5 million dollars per year.

Kaepernick - If Kaepernick was available, I would certainly want him to be the #2. I'm guessing another team would want to start him though. I would cap out at about 6-7 million dollars per year. Wouldn't get him and Manziel though.

Any of these guys would help prevent us from reaching for a QB in the draft.

Low end total - 4.5 million
High end total - 7 million

RB
Lamar Miller - Miller excels in a ZBS and would do even better with improved blocking in Dallas compared to Miami. With assured carries, Miller could even be a star here. I would definitely get him, and probably even make him the starter over McFadden, who did a good job here this year, but never excelled in the ZBS. If we got Miller, I'd hope we wouldn't need to address RB high in the draft. I don't think Miller will break the bank either, as I think I've seen suggested here already. Probably 4-6 million per year.

Lance Dunbar - I think the front office isn't quite sure what to do with Dunbar. He will probably make a bit of bank on the open market given what he did in the first few games here, but there will be that question mark due to his injury. I'd at least like to see us resign him for one or two years. Miller, McFadden, Dunbar, would make for a good running back corp. Dunbar needs to know that running backs are a dime a dozen, especially with a deep market in the draft. 1.5 million dollars.

Low End Total - 10 million dollars
High End Total - 14.5 million dollars


WR
Alshon Jeffery - Doesn't have the speed I would like to enhance our offense, but does have the playmaking ability and would still require teams to account for him which would help open things up for our offense tremendously, especially if Miller is what we think he could be for us. Would help us with not having to draft a WR high in the draft. Signing him would basically mean forgoing replacing Hardy in free agency. That would be putting a lot of pressure and responsibility on Gregory, who really hasn't shown us that he can deliver. Probably give him 9-11 million per year.

Josh Gordon [Trade] - If we can't get Jeffery, Josh Gordon would be an interesting choice, it would mean we wouldn't have to draft a guy who might take two or three years to develop. We would have a top flight offense with him and Dez on opposite corners and if they could both stay out of trouble and stay healthy. I still think it is possible that the Browns cut ties with both he and Manziel altogether. In which I would offer him a one year prove it deal. His cost would depend mostly on how you get him, but lets say it was equivalent to the 2nd round tender of 2.5 million. We won't be going forward with this scenario anyways.

Scenario A
Low End Total - 19 million
High End Total - 25.5 million


Scenario B
Low End Total - 12.5 million
High End Total - 16.5 million


Safety
Tashaun Gipson - Weddle and Berry are the names most mentioned, but I would actually get Gipson if possible. I'm still not sure I would go after a free safety in free agency when I want Jones to play Free Safety, but if we could get Gipson for a better price than Weddle or Berry, perhaps we could afford to have two Free Safeties out there. He got a 2nd round tender last year that he played on this year. Very young and very talented player. Probably looking at 7-9 million per year.

Low End Total - 26 million
High End Total - 34.5 million



Defensive Tackle
Tony McDaniel - McDaniel would be an instant upgrade over Hayden, period point blank. After the defensive upheaval in Tampa, I doubt he would re-sign there. 1.5 million dollars

Low End Total - 27.5 million
High End Total - 36 million


Middle linebacker
Rolando McClain - I would resign him one more time, and try to see if he can give us a full year. 3 million dollars.

Low End Total - 30.5 million
High End Total - 39 million

You can probably get there by restructuring Dez Bryant and Tyron Smith. I'd like to see Romo and Witten do team friendly pay cuts as well as the high end figure here might be difficult to pull off without their help and honestly, I'd love to see us add in Mario Williams as well, and that might be doable given that those numbers are based on average salaries, not what their 2016 salaries would be.

Beast I love it when posters make this kind of effort.
Not that I agree especially Manziel or Griffin [maybe Griffen]
We're in the prefect position to go high in the draft for athe right QB
Taking all this FA's puts us right back in tight cap.
I believe the FO will go cheap in FA as thats been thir new philosophy.
Again well thought out wishes
 

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Beast I love it when posters make this kind of effort.
Not that I agree especially Manziel or Griffin [maybe Griffen]
We're in the prefect position to go high in the draft for athe right QB
Taking all this FA's puts us right back in tight cap.
I believe the FO will go cheap in FA as thats been thir new philosophy.
Again well thought out wishes

Stay out of cap trouble !!!! :clap:
 

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Let me be clear...I am not a Bob Griffin fan but I also am not in the business of making definitive statements about young players. If there is a choice between Griffin and Manziel...I'd pick Griffin because he will not get in trouble off the field and had shown he can play in this League at some level.

As I said, I am not adverse to them signing him AND drafting Goff or Wentz in April.

Agreed 100%. RG3 is the only one of the two who's worth taking a chance on. Griffin has had success in this league, short lived success, but success none the less. Change in atmosphere and approach from coaches would probably do him wonders. Manziel is a head case and not worth a damn, IMO. There will be zero takers when Cleveland starts shopping him. As for drafting a QB, I don't think this years crop is worthy of a top 5. Dallas should go DL and look for a QB between rounds 2-4. Of course, we're talking about the same idiots that drafted Stephen McGee so who knows what the hell they'll do in the later rounds...........
 

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For my free agent wish list I'd like a complete set of defensive ends like a Haley/Tolbert combo or a ware/spencer combo. I think Lawrence can play the Tolbert/ spencer role, but I need a bad dude to be the Haley/ Ware Can someone find us one?
 

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Stay out of cap trouble !!!! :clap:

I'm not suggesting getting back into cap hell, but going after some proven players who can help the team, I feel is a must.

Too often we think we can skate by not getting free agents. That hasn't worked for us at all in the last few years. Successful teams make good choices on free agent targets that make a difference.
 

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If we get Gordon and JFF, we can get Budweiser to sponsor the stadium instead of ATT.
 

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For my free agent wish list I'd like a complete set of defensive ends like a Haley/Tolbert combo or a ware/spencer combo. I think Lawrence can play the Tolbert/ spencer role, but I need a bad dude to be the Haley/ Ware Can someone find us one?

Greg Hardy.
 

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Here are the players that I would like us to sign and draft.

QB
Johnny Manziel [Potential Trade] - There are two ways I could see us getting him. Either in a trade in which I would want to incorporate Josh Gordon somehow. I'd give the Browns maybe a 3rd or a 4th round pick for both Gordon and Manziel. If he were released, I would pick him up off of waivers and let him sit the next two years. He has flashed ability, and it would be worth bringing him in to see if he can mature and grow under Tony Romo. I think sometimes people forget this guy is still pretty young. I wouldn't write him off entirely yet. I think the key here is that he would be your 3rd guy. You would still want to get one of these other guys. 2 million dollars per year.

Robert Griffin III - As much as people dislike the guy, he also has ability. I don't think he ever got a fair shot in Washington, and in that I don't mean that Washington was unfair to him, he might have been just as responsible for that as anyone else. What I mean was he never got a real opportunity to grow as a QB in one system. Would be a great backup option. 4-5 million dollars per year.

Matt Moore - I think we've all liked this guy for a long time. He is the quintessential backup QB. Should have picked him up when we had the chance. 2.5 million dollars per year.

Kaepernick - If Kaepernick was available, I would certainly want him to be the #2. I'm guessing another team would want to start him though. I would cap out at about 6-7 million dollars per year. Wouldn't get him and Manziel though.

Any of these guys would help prevent us from reaching for a QB in the draft.

Low end total - 4.5 million
High end total - 7 million

RB
Lamar Miller - Miller excels in a ZBS and would do even better with improved blocking in Dallas compared to Miami. With assured carries, Miller could even be a star here. I would definitely get him, and probably even make him the starter over McFadden, who did a good job here this year, but never excelled in the ZBS. If we got Miller, I'd hope we wouldn't need to address RB high in the draft. I don't think Miller will break the bank either, as I think I've seen suggested here already. Probably 4-6 million per year.

Lance Dunbar - I think the front office isn't quite sure what to do with Dunbar. He will probably make a bit of bank on the open market given what he did in the first few games here, but there will be that question mark due to his injury. I'd at least like to see us resign him for one or two years. Miller, McFadden, Dunbar, would make for a good running back corp. Dunbar needs to know that running backs are a dime a dozen, especially with a deep market in the draft. 1.5 million dollars.

Low End Total - 10 million dollars
High End Total - 14.5 million dollars


WR
Alshon Jeffery - Doesn't have the speed I would like to enhance our offense, but does have the playmaking ability and would still require teams to account for him which would help open things up for our offense tremendously, especially if Miller is what we think he could be for us. Would help us with not having to draft a WR high in the draft. Signing him would basically mean forgoing replacing Hardy in free agency. That would be putting a lot of pressure and responsibility on Gregory, who really hasn't shown us that he can deliver. Probably give him 9-11 million per year.

Josh Gordon [Trade] - If we can't get Jeffery, Josh Gordon would be an interesting choice, it would mean we wouldn't have to draft a guy who might take two or three years to develop. We would have a top flight offense with him and Dez on opposite corners and if they could both stay out of trouble and stay healthy. I still think it is possible that the Browns cut ties with both he and Manziel altogether. In which I would offer him a one year prove it deal. His cost would depend mostly on how you get him, but lets say it was equivalent to the 2nd round tender of 2.5 million. We won't be going forward with this scenario anyways.

Scenario A
Low End Total - 19 million
High End Total - 25.5 million


Scenario B
Low End Total - 12.5 million
High End Total - 16.5 million


Safety
Tashaun Gipson - Weddle and Berry are the names most mentioned, but I would actually get Gipson if possible. I'm still not sure I would go after a free safety in free agency when I want Jones to play Free Safety, but if we could get Gipson for a better price than Weddle or Berry, perhaps we could afford to have two Free Safeties out there. He got a 2nd round tender last year that he played on this year. Very young and very talented player. Probably looking at 7-9 million per year.

Low End Total - 26 million
High End Total - 34.5 million



Defensive Tackle
Tony McDaniel - McDaniel would be an instant upgrade over Hayden, period point blank. After the defensive upheaval in Tampa, I doubt he would re-sign there. 1.5 million dollars

Low End Total - 27.5 million
High End Total - 36 million


Middle linebacker
Rolando McClain - I would resign him one more time, and try to see if he can give us a full year. 3 million dollars.

Low End Total - 30.5 million
High End Total - 39 million

You can probably get there by restructuring Dez Bryant and Tyron Smith. I'd like to see Romo and Witten do team friendly pay cuts as well as the high end figure here might be difficult to pull off without their help and honestly, I'd love to see us add in Mario Williams as well, and that might be doable given that those numbers are based on average salaries, not what their 2016 salaries would be.

Lot of holes to fill.
 
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