Cowboys haven’t made decision on Rolando McClain’s future

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For crying out loud there's no dependency on Marijuana. Its relaxing and a nice night cap after a hard days work, I get that. My employer however does random UAs so I can not partake. I have to be a big boy and take care of my responsibilities. There is no withdrawal, not smoking pot is as simple as deciding to not smoke pot. RoMac simply doesnt care enough to quit. Hes got the body of a warrior and the mind of a punk.
 

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How many of you would be saying the same thing if his suspension were only 4 games?

I'll openly admit if it was a 4 game suspension I would be annoyed but not to the point we needed to get rid of him. I would also be of the mindset that this is a wakeup call and hopeful he would learn from the suspension. A 10 game suspension tells me he isnt committed and with the season more than half over what's the point in even retaining him? Yes hes been a productive player on the field, but hes a stop gap until we found our next mlb. Hopefully Jaylon can get back on the field next season.
 

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So "win without him" and then tell a player to 'take a seat' because the pothead's back?

:thumbdown:

1.Well it would depend on the situation, and how well other guy or guys were playing mlb.
I would not automatically put him in to replace someone playing good.
2.Playoffs are different, your playing the best teams, still it would depend on how well the other guys were playing.

If anything Ro would be depth, or step in due to injury, or if a player was just tired, he would be a good bkup or depth player.
Might as well use him , then discard him after this season.
 

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I don't understand this viewpoint.

If the defense is playing well enough to be in the thick of the playoff hunt, why would you disrupt it just because he is available? A notoriously out of condition player who hates practice coming off a ten week layoff? How about his replacement who has been busting his butt to play and help the team getting brushed off for that?

see my response to stash above.
 

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1.Well it would depend on the situation, and how well other guy or guys were playing mlb.
I would not automatically put him in to replace someone playing good.
2.Playoffs are different, your playing the best teams, still it would depend on how well the other guys were playing.

If anything Ro would be depth, or step in due to injury, or if a player was just tired, he would be a good bkup or depth player.
Might as well use him , then discard him after this season.

I disagree. I think it sends a bad message keeping a guy around that obviously doesn't care and doesn't want to play.

I'd rather a lesser talent who wants to be here over a guy who would rather waste his life and talents away smoking weed. Go be a lazy bum someplace else.
 

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How many of you would be saying the same thing if his suspension were only 4 games?

What's your point?

We've 'been there, done that' with the 4 games already. And both the team and most fans supported him through it. And what did he do in response to that support? He smoked again and spat that support back in everyone's faces. Just like Randy Gregory paid back the faith the Cowboys showed by drafting him.

Two idiots who are completely ignorant of the gifts they've been given who choose to waste them.

Blame the people responsible for getting here, not those reacting to it.
 

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The FO ineeds to rework the RKG definitions to justify MCClain's retention.

How spineless and 'just in it for the money' does Garrett have to be to allow this kind of emasculation. There is no way you can have an ounce if respect for him if you have the slightest capacity to think for yourself.
 

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I'm not sure I'd cut him right now.

1. He can't be around the team anyway; not at the facility or practices or games...he's basically invisible and gone.
2. He's not collecting a penny from the team, so his absence and lack of pay means he's not really hurting the locker-room or morale.
3. Cut him now; cut him at the end of his 10 game suspension...what message does it send that really matters.

I think I'd wait until his suspension ends and see what the situation looks like, what he looks like.

4. Suppose his replacement sucks, or suppose we are in great position for the playoffs, but we have another injury at MLB and are basically out of options.
I don't think morale or the locker room would have any issues with bringing him back for the final 6 games and the playoffs if he's clearly an upgrade for a weakness due to more injuries or poor performance.

If he's out of shape, not ready to play, or if someone else is holding down the fort sufficiently, I cut him the day he's off suspension. But what's the point of cutting him now? As a suspended player, he's not taking up room on the 53 man roster either. If we needed him and kept him for the playoffs, he'd basically be like a FA off the streets as far as we're concerned; he'd come in and help us to and in the playoffs, or he'd be released. His contract would already be set, and it's peanuts for 6 games and basically free for the playoffs.

If I'm wrong on any of my assumptions about his pay, his being away from the team and locker room throughout his suspension, etc., then yes, I'd cut him now, but he's screwed us enough up to this point. I say why not use him as a safety plan in case there are additional injuries at LB during the season.
 

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For crying out loud there's no dependency on Marijuana. Its relaxing and a nice night cap after a hard days work, I get that. My employer however does random UAs so I can not partake. I have to be a big boy and take care of my responsibilities. There is no withdrawal, not smoking pot is as simple as deciding to not smoke pot. RoMac simply doesnt care enough to quit. Hes got the body of a warrior and the mind of a punk.

Yes, people can be dependent on weed. Don't spread ignorance.
 

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I'm not sure I'd cut him right now.

1. He can't be around the team anyway; not at the facility or practices or games...he's basically invisible and gone.
2. He's not collecting a penny from the team, so his absence and lack of pay means he's not really hurting the locker-room or morale.
3. Cut him now; cut him at the end of his 10 game suspension...what message does it send that really matters.

I think I'd wait until his suspension ends and see what the situation looks like, what he looks like.

4. Suppose his replacement sucks, or suppose we are in great position for the playoffs, but we have another injury at MLB and are basically out of options.
I don't think morale or the locker room would have any issues with bringing him back for the final 6 games and the playoffs if he's clearly an upgrade for a weakness due to more injuries or poor performance.

If he's out of shape, not ready to play, or if someone else is holding down the fort sufficiently, I cut him the day he's off suspension. But what's the point of cutting him now? As a suspended player, he's not taking up room on the 53 man roster either. If we needed him and kept him for the playoffs, he'd basically be like a FA off the streets as far as we're concerned; he'd come in and help us to and in the playoffs, or he'd be released. His contract would already be set, and it's peanuts for 6 games and basically free for the playoffs.

If I'm wrong on any of my assumptions about his pay, his being away from the team and locker room throughout his suspension, etc., then yes, I'd cut him now, but he's screwed us enough up to this point. I say why not use him as a safety plan in case there are additional injuries at LB during the season.

Here's the reasons why to cut him.

One, if history is any indicator, it's unlikely he'll be ready to play come Week 11 anyway at a high level. He'll probably need a few weeks just to get into game shape.

Two, again using history as an indicator, he's a risk to blow another drug test at any point in time.

You simply cannot count on him any longer. You can't build a defense and constantly plug him in as your MLB and think that's a smart decision.
 

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Yes, people can be dependent on weed. Don't spread ignorance.

Lol, theres no physical addiction to Marijuana. Dont spread ignorance youself. Sorry that youre so soft you need an excuse, but I am not.
 

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I'm not sure I'd cut him right now.

1. He can't be around the team anyway; not at the facility or practices or games...he's basically invisible and gone.
2. He's not collecting a penny from the team, so his absence and lack of pay means he's not really hurting the locker-room or morale.
3. Cut him now; cut him at the end of his 10 game suspension...what message does it send that really matters.

I think I'd wait until his suspension ends and see what the situation looks like, what he looks like.

4. Suppose his replacement sucks, or suppose we are in great position for the playoffs, but we have another injury at MLB and are basically out of options.
I don't think morale or the locker room would have any issues with bringing him back for the final 6 games and the playoffs if he's clearly an upgrade for a weakness due to more injuries or poor performance.

If he's out of shape, not ready to play, or if someone else is holding down the fort sufficiently, I cut him the day he's off suspension. But what's the point of cutting him now? As a suspended player, he's not taking up room on the 53 man roster either. If we needed him and kept him for the playoffs, he'd basically be like a FA off the streets as far as we're concerned; he'd come in and help us to and in the playoffs, or he'd be released. His contract would already be set, and it's peanuts for 6 games and basically free for the playoffs.

If I'm wrong on any of my assumptions about his pay, his being away from the team and locker room throughout his suspension, etc., then yes, I'd cut him now, but he's screwed us enough up to this point. I say why not use him as a safety plan in case there are additional injuries at LB during the season.

Point 1 is wrong. He can be around the team. Just can't practice. League and union changed that rule several years ago to improve support for suspended players

Point 2. Right conclusion based on the wrong argument. You cut him now and he gets to keep his entire 750k bonus. Cut him at the end of the suspension and we recoup 10/16th of that. So he's making more if we cut him now
 

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They had to beg McClain to unretired, and they're still begging him to play?

Jerry said he was a great signing. He actually said that. I'd bet the coaches, trainers, and other players would disagree.

I also bet other players would like to be with their kids during OTAs, too? All of us would like to see our kids as much as NFL players can if they want to.
 

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I'm not sure I'd cut him right now.

1. He can't be around the team anyway; not at the facility or practices or games...he's basically invisible and gone.
2. He's not collecting a penny from the team, so his absence and lack of pay means he's not really hurting the locker-room or morale.
3. Cut him now; cut him at the end of his 10 game suspension...what message does it send that really matters.

I think I'd wait until his suspension ends and see what the situation looks like, what he looks like.

4. Suppose his replacement sucks, or suppose we are in great position for the playoffs, but we have another injury at MLB and are basically out of options.
I don't think morale or the locker room would have any issues with bringing him back for the final 6 games and the playoffs if he's clearly an upgrade for a weakness due to more injuries or poor performance.

If he's out of shape, not ready to play, or if someone else is holding down the fort sufficiently, I cut him the day he's off suspension. But what's the point of cutting him now? As a suspended player, he's not taking up room on the 53 man roster either. If we needed him and kept him for the playoffs, he'd basically be like a FA off the streets as far as we're concerned; he'd come in and help us to and in the playoffs, or he'd be released. His contract would already be set, and it's peanuts for 6 games and basically free for the playoffs.

If I'm wrong on any of my assumptions about his pay, his being away from the team and locker room throughout his suspension, etc., then yes, I'd cut him now, but he's screwed us enough up to this point. I say why not use him as a safety plan in case there are additional injuries at LB during the season.

Cut him now and keep him away from the team...when his suspension is up I guarantee he will still be FA but if he fails to get into shape or fails another test it won't be our problem.....recouping 10/16ths of 750k is not a good reason to keep him....cutting him now frees up 2.5m immediately
 

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Point 1 is wrong. He can be around the team. Just can't practice. League and union changed that rule several years ago to improve support for suspended players

Point 2. Right conclusion based on the wrong argument. You cut him now and he gets to keep his entire 750k bonus. Cut him at the end of the suspension and we recoup 10/16th of that. So he's making more if we cut him now

If we cut him now we recover 2.5m in cap space immediately compared to getting it back week by week over the course of the season..the 500k we can recover from his signing bonus is negligible... .I would use the savings to pay Durant and a possible QB2
 

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If we cut him now we recover 2.5m in cap space immediately compared to getting it back week by week over the course of the season..the 500k we can recover from his signing bonus is negligible... .I would use the savings to pay Durant and a possible QB2

The 500k is not negligible and we don't need his money to do anything. Why throw good space away when we can roll it into next year?
 
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