News: Cowboys land millions in rollover cap savings from 2018 season

ItzKelz

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unfortunately most of the cap space will go tour own in house FA signings, lots of decsions on

Tank, Amari, Dak, Beasly and possibly Zeke.. I also believe we have like 19 players that are going to have expired contracts who do we keep or let go.. So most here will be disappointed when we fill those spots with 2nd tier FAs vs breaking the bank for big name first day FAs..they will groan and complain and prejudge every move..

so all the Cap money looks good on paper but will be used up with our big name extensions and low tier fill in for backups in FA..
That means we drafted well and made a heck of a trade....nothing unfortunate about that.
 

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well its known FACT do you not read the offseason hate and drama that surrounds the FGO being cheap mutherfers? LOL its already started, if im stating past and present reaction from here on subject its not speculation its all true..there are most likely 100s of pages post FA and draft on how bad we are going to be because of it..most are very wrong but the overreactions come in like flood gates opening..

but thanks for your unsolicited opinion as well ie Hypocrite

Most have been right about the Cowboys and FA. They aren't very good at it and frankly, it's hurt them when they have built a nice corps through the draft and could have supplemented it with some key FAs (not even top of the barrel, high priced ones).

I mean look at their FA list since 2014:

2014

Melton - ehhh
Mincey - pretty good
McClain - pretty good
Weeden - bad
Spillman - bad
Watson - bad
Anderson - bad
Crawford - ehhh

2015

McFadden - pretty good
Collins - ehhh
Hardy - LOL
Rivers - bad
Brinkley - bad
Gachkar - ehhh

2016

Morris - pretty good
Thornton - bad
Mayowa - ehhh

2017

Moore - bad
Paea - bad
Carroll - bad

2018

Olawale - ehhh
Hurns - ehhhh
Thomas - ehhhh
Ealy - bad
Thompson - bad
Fleming - ehhh
Martin - bad

That's 5 years of free agency and they signed a small handful of decent to solid players, and mostly mediocre to bad other players.

I am not sure how anyone can sit here and think that A) Cowboys fans are unreasonable in their assessment of how the Cowboys use FA B) that the Cowboys do a good job in FA.
 

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We have a grand total of one new contract that will hit the cap this year, even if we do extend Zeke, Amari, etc.

And that's DeMarcus Lawrence.

No other contract extension hits the cap this year, so please for the love of God stop talking about "extending our guys" like it, in anyway, affects the cap this year. I'm begging you. My eyes are beginning to bleed.

The only thing that would hit the cap this year, is 1/5 or whatever is prorated of their signing bonus. That's it. Yes, a signing bonus takes affect at signing, even though the extension may not go into effect for 2 years. It sounds simple, but that confused me at first. "Gurley's new signing bonus is partly prorated over the last 2 years of his rookie contract? Oh."

We are good even with Lee and Hurns, who will probably be casualties. 2020 is damn good too. We could pay Dak 40mill, Amari 20, DLaw 20, Byron 20, and then go get a Tackle for 10mill and still be good. Zeke would still be under contract and even when we pay him (just do the Gurley deal this year) that contract doesn't hit the cap until 2021.

Please get some guys who can actually play. We're in a pretty good spot, this is a nice window. Who knows what could happen. Don't blow it, but we can add some very good pieces to this team, and it won't affect signing our young guys at all. There is literally no reason not to, besides hubris.
 

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the rams made a mega deal for gurley after his third season. don't think zeke hasn't noticed. especially after all his touches last season. there's always something.
 

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Most have been right about the Cowboys and FA. They aren't very good at it and frankly, it's hurt them when they have built a nice corps through the draft and could have supplemented it with some key FAs (not even top of the barrel, high priced ones).

I mean look at their FA list since 2014:

2014

Melton - ehhh
Mincey - pretty good
McClain - pretty good
Weeden - bad
Spillman - bad
Watson - bad
Anderson - bad
Crawford - ehhh

2015

McFadden - pretty good
Collins - ehhh
Hardy - LOL
Rivers - bad
Brinkley - bad
Gachkar - ehhh

2016

Morris - pretty good
Thornton - bad
Mayowa - ehhh

2017

Moore - bad
Paea - bad
Carroll - bad

2018

Olawale - ehhh
Hurns - ehhhh
Thomas - ehhhh
Ealy - bad
Thompson - bad
Fleming - ehhh
Martin - bad

That's 5 years of free agency and they signed a small handful of decent to solid players, and mostly mediocre to bad other players.

I am not sure how anyone can sit here and think that A) Cowboys fans are unreasonable in their assessment of how the Cowboys use FA B) that the Cowboys do a good job in FA.
like I said there are fans who will complain unless we sign big name and of that big name cost us bog and they dont work out, then....right more complaining..
 

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like I said there are fans who will complain unless we sign big name and of that big name cost us bog and they dont work out, then....right more complaining..

The fact is people who have complained about the Cowboys in FA have been accurate. Sorry that hurts your Cowboys sensibilities.

Truth hurts sometimes.
 

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Why do people think the Cowboys only have enough to sign their own? Getting rid of Lee and Hurns will will bring the money up to 60 million. If you believe that’s not enough to load up for a couple of years with signing their own then how the hell do other teams do it? How much cap space do they need to sign a couple of free agents that will make a major impact while signing their own? Other teams with a lot less cap space finagled the cap plenty of times. Not buying this crap that they only have enough to sign their own. Man Stephen Jones has some of you put to sleep.
 

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Why do people think the Cowboys only have enough to sign their own? Getting rid of Lee and Hurns will will bring the money up to 60 million. If you believe that’s not enough to load up for a couple of years with signing their own then how the hell do other teams do it? How much cap space do they need to sign a couple of free agents that will make a major impact while signing their own? Other teams with a lot less cap space finagled the cap plenty of times. Not buying this crap that they only have enough to sign their own. Man Stephen Jones has some of you put to sleep.
I said that will be their main focus and until its all worked out they wont plan any new FAs..
 

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The fact is people who have complained about the Cowboys in FA have been accurate. Sorry that hurts your Cowboys sensibilities.

Truth hurts sometimes.
but the drafts have been better then most thought and have made up and better in a lot of ways then going way to big ON FA..the giants and Jaguars did it and all that money and one year is all they got from it and back in the cellar..you have to be careful..Im hoping for a dominate safety most likely in FA as afew more this year are available but the draft to get TE and DT..all that ET talk has died now but maybe it picks back up if he isn't overpricing himself..
 

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I said that will be their main focus and until its all worked out they wont plan any new FAs..

And that’s why part of why they will always come up short.

Because there will always be “their guys” they want to pay. It’s a convenient excuse to not engage in FA and improve the team.

In other words, there is no reason that they shouldn’t look at a guy like Mebane for DT. He won’t be expensive, has played for Richard and could play both the 1T and 3T.

Would be a very smart signing.
 

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Cowboys land millions in rollover cap savings from 2018 season
https://247sports.com/nfl/dallas-co...lover-cap-savings-from-2018-season-128711524/

*(very good read)


It's time to make it rain, Dallas Cowboys.

Based on what needs to be done this offseason, roster-wise, the rain better be torrential enough to create a flash flood, which is fine considering owner Jerry Jones has a new ark -- both physically and proverbially in reference to the NFL salary cap.

For the first time in quite awhile, the club will have a sizable financial cushion to work with going into the offseason, with the league setting a new bar for 2019. Granted, for those who actually understand how this all financial rigmarole works, there's no such thing as the mythical "salary cap hell" you've been led to believe the Cowboys have suffered from. Wise teams always find a way to make the cap work for them, be it with pay cuts, restructures, releases or the like. Building through the NFL Draft also helps in a major way, the goal being to land exceptional talent for pennies on the dollar -- something the Cowboys have now become arguably the best in the league at doing...
No news here, we’ve know this for months.
 

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but the drafts have been better then most thought and have made up and better in a lot of ways then going way to big ON FA..the giants and Jaguars did it and all that money and one year is all they got from it and back in the cellar..you have to be careful..Im hoping for a dominate safety most likely in FA as afew more this year are available but the draft to get TE and DT..all that ET talk has died now but maybe it picks back up if he isn't overpricing himself..

And the best teams use the draft and FA. The four teams left in the playoffs all used the draft and signed key FAs.

This Cowboys team basically eschews FA altogether other than the junk, cheap FAs they seemingly love to sign.
 

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the rams made a mega deal for gurley after his third season. don't think zeke hasn't noticed. especially after all his touches last season. there's always something.
And don’t think the Cowboys haven’t noticed the attitude of Gurley since he signed.
 

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They could have just came here months ago and known this
 
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