Cowboys looking at teams for RB trade?

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That is assuming they are just willing to dump him. Ajayi will have to just blow the doors off and one of their other backs better do the same for them to think about that.

Well there may be some truth to interest in Miller broaddas has been hearing names being talked about at valley ranch and said he wouldn't mention any specific names but Steve Dennis mentioned Miller and broaddas kind of chuckled.
 

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You can keep calling Leary a backup G but the fact is he was a starter on the best OL in football last year. I don't think he loses ability simply because the Cowboys stepped in dog crap and landed a blue chip La'el Collins.

They wouldn't be trading for a backup G. They'd be getting an immediate starting G and a pretty good one at that. He's also still young.

They would be trading for our backup G. Remember, Jerry Jones would be involved in this trade.

Save Terry Glenn, I cannot remember the last time we got fair value in a deal where Jerry Jones did not have Jimmy Johnson handling the pesky details of establishing value.
 

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Well there may be some truth to interest in Miller broaddas has been hearing names being talked about at valley ranch and said he wouldn't mention any specific names but Steve Dennis mentioned Miller and broaddas kind of chuckled.

That was more on Dennis being a dummy than Broaddus being all that wired in.
 

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Yeah. It's funny how Latavius Murray stepped in and did what McFadden couldn't do with the SAME line in front of him. I would be interested in hearing that deconstructed.

I have plenty of time.

Gotcha, but I'm not going to act like I know everything and be sarcastic. But to answer your question: everybody that watches football knows.. that the best football players on the field get targeted. And if your the best on your sorry team, you get targeted more. This also leads to more injuries.. its not hard to understand. When the best back comes off the field and the back ups come in.. maybe the defense is thinking pass, but Latavius surprises them and capitalizes on this.. maybe McFadden wasn't a great scheme fit for the 20th head coach.. who knows? But I can tell you this.. just because Joseph Randle averaged 6.7 ypc, doesn't mean he was better than Demarco Murray. Say what you want about McFadden, but the fact is he was on a Sorry team that has been terrible since he was touted as the best back in a decade. I think he still has a lot in the tank.. and I love having players that have something to prove to the world.
 

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Gotcha, but I'm not going to act like I know everything and be sarcastic. But to answer your question: everybody that watches football knows.. that the best football players on the field get targeted. And if your the best on your sorry team, you get targeted more. This also leads to more injuries.. its not hard to understand. When the best back comes off the field and the back ups come in.. maybe the defense is thinking pass, but Latavius surprises them and capitalizes on this.. maybe McFadden wasn't a great scheme fit for the 20th head coach.. who knows? But I can tell you this.. just because Joseph Randle averaged 6.7 ypc, doesn't mean he was better than Demarco Murray. Say what you want about McFadden, but the fact is he was on a Sorry team that has been terrible since he was touted as the best back in a decade. I think he still has a lot in the tank.. and I love having players that have something to prove to the world.

I prefer to have players that have proven plenty to the world and still have plenty to prove.
 

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How?

2012, 2013, 2014, 2015...................his contract is up after this season and he has 4 years in the league............that makes him an UFA, doesn't it?

And even if we don't count 2012, he still has 3 yrs of service and undrafted free agents hit unrestricted free agency after 3 yrs instead of 4, it is one of the benefits of not being drafted.

Its got to do with him being on the practice squad his 1st season for most of the year. He wasn't on the roster long enough to earn a year in 2012. Thats why he was an exclusive rights free agent this offseason. He had 2+ years of time in. After 3 seasons an udfa reaches RFA upon the seasons end, so even though he was drafted 3 years ago, he didnt have the service time required to reach RFA and after this year he won't have the service time to reach UFA, only RFA. Also no rookie can reach UFA before completion of their 4th season. The advantage is a udfa can renegotiate after the 2nd year where drafted players can only extend after the 3rd.

Its the same thing people where saying with Josh Gordon when the Browns suspended him at the end of last season. The rumors were they wanted to keep him from getting that last game needed to reach UFA early.

Heres a link showing he's a RFA this offseason.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/ron-leary/
 

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Yeah. It's funny how Latavius Murray stepped in and did what McFadden couldn't do with the SAME line in front of him. I would be interested in hearing that deconstructed.

I have plenty of time.

When you break off a 90 yard TD run it kinda skews the numbers. He really only had good (decent) games vs San Diego and Kansas City
 

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I prefer to have players that have proven plenty to the world and still have plenty to prove.

Hey me too, but the Salary cap kinda limits you in that respect. Being that our defense needed an upgrade in a bad way(which I think the FO did a great job), a decision had to be made about Murray.. and here we are now talking about one position on the teams instead of five. There's no doubt I'd love to have Murray back. Can you imagine for a second what our team would look like if Jerry could spend his money again?! ugh.
 

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Why are people so down on McFadden? Its like most people ignore the fact that he was the best player on a sorry team since he's been in the league. Now he's a 6'2" 213lb runningback that has blazing speed, but powerful enough to run over people. I seriously believe people are drastically under estimating this guy. And yeah, that's my opinion... but he was being compared to the likes of Bo Jackson coming out of college. I understand he doesn't have the big Numbers and all, but he has all the measurables to be a great back behind an ALL-Pro OL. What kind of QB, WR, TE, or OL did he ever have? How many OC's and head coaches did he go through? Personally I think he needs to be giving a chance, rather than give up OL depth and/or draft picks for 1 year rentals..
On the other hand... the only rumor I've heard that sounds appealing is: Lamar Miller. He was a 1k yard rusher last year behind a terrible OL, also added 275 yards receiving, runs a 4.4, and is only 24yo

I'd be elated to have a Miller and McFadden combo..

Seriously? Have you not watched McFadden for the past 7 years of his NFL career?

His production has been abysmal and his reliability has been terrible.

People claim to want no part of Chris Johnson but want to defend this guy when the reality of it shows that Johnson has crushed McFadden in every category. It's not even close!
 

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yeah I get it... Sounds exactly the same thing they said about Murray. You know the NFL leading rusher last year.. running behind our OL does wonders

Except for the 7 years of mediocrity part, sure...

:rolleyes:
 

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Yeah. It's funny how Latavius Murray stepped in and did what McFadden couldn't do with the SAME line in front of him. I would be interested in hearing that deconstructed.

I have plenty of time.

This has been discussed over 1000 times I don't see how you haven't seen the answer to that question in all the other McFadden threads. Latavius DID not perform better behind the line than McFadden. Murrays numbers are skewed because he has a huge 90 yard run against the chiefs that blows his ypc up giving him an average of 28 ypc in that one game. He also had 4 carries against the chargers and ended with 10 ypc in that game so saying he averaged 5 yards a carry behind Oakland line is ********. When he got full time carries on the month of December he averaged 3.7 3.3 and 3.7 as a starter. Oakland line was trash period nobody is looking good behind it. McFadden about to be on a team full of talent and he's gonna blow up
 

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When you break off a 90 yard TD run it kinda skews the numbers. He really only had good (decent) games vs San Diego and Kansas City

Yeah, but it still doesn't explain Rashad Jenngs putting up much better numbers too. The fact is that the other running backs Oakland has used have far out produced McFadden, even under the same lousy conditions.
 

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One guy to keep an eye on is Ahmad Bradshaw. Running style fits what the Cowboys are looking for. As a complimentary RB, he's probably the best guy available. I'm assuming his leg injury has healed.
 

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Wait, so you are saying that Jones did that trade knowing he had the upper hand?

It was a shot in the dark for player on the retired list with a little to no value deal involved.

The Ravens did not assume risk, he was done and gone. Jones traded for hope. And it paid off to his credit.

There is a difference between taking that versus dealing with known commodities and judging value.
 

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One guy to keep an eye on is Ahmad Bradshaw. Running style fits what the Cowboys are looking for. As a complimentary RB, he's probably the best guy available. I'm assuming his leg injury has healed.

I think he is too beat up. Plus the DUI thing.
 

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They would be trading for our backup G. Remember, Jerry Jones would be involved in this trade.

Save Terry Glenn, I cannot remember the last time we got fair value in a deal where Jerry Jones did not have Jimmy Johnson handling the pesky details of establishing value.

Fredbeard and TWill?
 
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