News: Cowboys make generous offers to Triplets

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Play 20 games a year in something you love to do
Practice for 7 months out of the year
Work out and get paid to do so

We can't all be so lucky in ours jobs

No sir, greed is already being paid $21 million to play a sport - but wanting $14 million a year to continue playing when you've already signed a contract that has 2 years remaining. Play out your contract....if you get hurt - well you've made a dang good sum of money for 5 years. Hopefully $35 million is enough to make it. If you don't and you continue to produce at the job your paid to do - congrats, here is a new contract to continue to play a sport you are voluntarily playing. If you no longer wish to voluntarily do the job that has health risk later on in life - there is the door. I hope you made good financial decisions with that $35 million. It's REALLY that simple for someone like Zeke. This isn't a player making peanuts...this is a well compensated player that is producing like a 4th overall pick should.

No sir, greed is demanding to be the highest paid player in the league - when you aren't even in the top 100 players on the field. (still hoping this report if false)

I don't care how much the owners are making - they are given a limited pool of money that the players agreed too. That's what is there to work with - it's not really a free market.


Greedy agents and manipulated players - a wonderful combination.

This is really not an argument that needs addressing. Elite athletes that drive a multi billion dollar industry have different standards of earning potential than you or I, *gasp*.

And whether you care what the owners are worth or not is immaterial. They constructed an environment that suppresses earnings, and to their extreme benefit. That’s greed. Should someone be happy and feel fortunate to make a ton of money playing sports? Sure, should they also ignore the massive disparity and take advantage of the brief opportunity to make as much of their actual worth as possible? Absolutely.

and while you’re painting the sunshine only picture of professional football, don’t forget about the insane physical toll it takes, CTE and the like.

agents are absolutely the hidden scumbags though, agreed.

 

[Diehardblues]

Time will tell. Zeke had best hope our rookie RBs don't tear it up this preseason and to start the season.

I agree and I’m thinking Dak needs to hope these RB’s don’t make him look bad.

This thing could go either way. Oh the drama

 

[Flamma]

If in fact the Cowboys have made these offers, and apparently they did, this might be trouble. I can see Ezekiel deserving of more than top 5 but not Dak, or Cooper. I don't think Prescott will get a better offer in free agency. He should jump on that offer because it might not come again. I like Cooper but he's not elite.

I agree with you, but Cooper is getting it. He's getting it because they traded a first rounder for him and he knows they didn't do it just to let him go a year and a half later. So Dallas will probably over pay a bit.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Let Zeke walk, strong RB class next year and I trust Alf, Pollard and Weber to tote the rock this year. Bye, Felicia.

Yeah, great idea. Build a team and have the pieces in place and allow your top offensive player sit and brood and then jump in the draft.

A wasted season is always a terrific idea.

The team's forward momentum toward destiny doesn't give a rat's wrinkle about fan's hurt feelings.

 

[kskboys]

This RB by Committee better work better than last time. Or this could get real ugly. Lol

But yea if it does work and Dak doesn’t need Elite talent at RB then we’re good to go. On the other hand if it doesn’t ..where does that leave ya. The drama

RB by committee works fine as long as all of them are very talented. RB by committee doesn't mean filling your team w/ 5 Phillip Tanners would work.

 

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People are greedy by nature. The huge majority of them. There's been a few examples in history of players not showing greed, but very few. Doug Free was one of those. Alex Bregmann of the Astros.

Overall, though, I doubt if one side is significantly more greedy than the other.

well one side reaps the lion share of enormous profits and colludes to suppress the others, and the other side tries to make money more in line with their actual value. There are examples of players that are comfortable with their lives and earnings and prioritize other things. I commend them. I don’t believe it makes anyone else inherently greedy. And I also don’t necessarily equate self serving as greedy

 

[Diehardblues]

RB by committee works fine as long as all of them are very talented. RB by committee doesn't mean filling your team w/ 5 Phillip Tanners would work.

It would have a greater possibility of working if you have a more elite QB. It all comes down to ; is Dak a legit 30+ million top 5 QB. If he’s close to that then we’re good to go.

If he’s more like the QB we saw first half of last season or during Elliott suspension then we might have some problems justifying our new 100+ million QB.

K, this is going to be a fun season on the forum
Probably more fun than on the field.

 

[kskboys]

well one side reaps the lion share of enormous profits and colludes to suppress the others, and the other side tries to make money more in line with their actual value. There are examples of players that are comfortable with their lives and earnings and prioritize other things. I commend them. I don’t believe it makes anyone else inherently greedy. And I also don’t necessarily equate self serving as greedy

That's a ton of twisting to try to absolve your side of greed.

I don't take sides. Both sides are incredibly greedy.

Their actual value? Huh? This is a game, entertainment. There is no actual value. It comes down to what people are willing to pay. Like I said, major stretch.

 

[DasTex]

This is really not an argument that needs addressing. Elite athletes that drive a multi billion dollar industry have different standards of earning potential than you or I, *gasp*.

And whether you care what the owners are worth or not is immaterial. They constructed an environment that suppresses earnings, and to their extreme benefit. That’s greed. Should someone be happy and feel fortunate to make a ton of money playing sports? Sure, should they also ignore the massive disparity and take advantage of the brief opportunity to make as much of their actual worth as possible? Absolutely.

and while you’re painting the sunshine only picture of professional football, don’t forget about the insane physical toll it takes, CTE and the like.

agents are absolutely the hidden scumbags though, agreed.

Pretty sure I didn't just report it was all sunshine - I noted it's a known health risk they are voluntarily taking.

The players agreed to this constructed environment and of course it would be to the benefit of the people putting up millions/billions of their own money. Isn't that how businesses typically work?

You know how businesses typically don't work - signing a contact to do something - refuse to do that something when you feel you should get paid more even though the market dictates you should be making more. You finish out that contact and then get paid based on the work you've done in the past to justify that said contract.

And yes - agents can go somewhere we can't say on here

 

[kskboys]

It would have a greater possibility of working if you have a more elite QB. It all comes down to ; is Dak a legit 30+ million top 5 QB. If he’s close to that then we’re good to go.

If he’s more like the QB we saw first half of last season or during Elliott suspension then we might have some problems justifying our new 100+ million QB.

K, this is going to be a fun season on the forum
Probably more fun than on the field.

Dak is an unknown right now. He's shown both good and bad, and may actually have an NFL quality QB coach and OC. And that's another huge question mark. I'm actually looking forward to seeing a brand new face of the O, and I'm majorly interested in how Dak will do w/ Kitna in his ear. I personally believe it will make a monster of a difference, as I feel for the first time in his career that Dak will truly be developed.

Your first sentence is simply stating the obvious. However, since there's only 3-5 elite QB's in the NFL, everyone else just has to build the right team to fit their QB's skillset. Eli and Flacco are far from elite, and Bigben was not even close to elite when he won his first super bowl. Foles is not close to elite, and Wilson was not elite when he won his super bowl. So I'm going to have to disagree w/ you on your elite yearnings. Play w/ what you have and build around him. And always bring in competition.

 

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That's a ton of twisting to try to absolve your side of greed.

I don't take sides. Both sides are incredibly greedy.

Their actual value? Huh? This is a game, entertainment. There is no actual value. It comes down to what people are willing to pay. Like I said, major stretch.

Yeah actual value relative to revenue generated. You can’t derive an actual value from a controlled market.
Thid is simple stuff, I’m not particularly concerned with whether you take sides or not, you choked in befuddled how anyone could come to this conclusion, I’m explaining.


owners get money from the teams value increasing, from television deals, from merchandising, from corporate sponsorship, etc. they could increase player salaries ten fold across the board and STILL make out much better. Instead they actively fight to suppress. That’s .... more greedy lol. Easily and definitively. Feel the players are greedy as well, that’s fine and with merit. But the owners are far more greedy, by orders of magnitude.

 

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Pretty sure I didn't just report it was all sunshine - I noted it's a known health risk they are voluntarily taking.

The players agreed to this constructed environment and of course it would be to the benefit of the people putting up millions/billions of their own money. Isn't that how businesses typically work?

You know how businesses typically don't work - signing a contact to do something - refuse to do that something when you feel you should get paid more even though the market dictates you should be making more. You finish out that contact and then get paid based on the work you've done in the past to justify that said contract.

And yes - agents can go somewhere we can't say on here

Gotcha we disagree about something trivial and it gets personal. Sounds good my man.

 

[MRV52]

you mean trade Zeke,we can get a 1st rd pick if we trade him .

You're not going to get a first-round pick for Zeke and his bone head Off the field antics and huge contract to sign with a team.

 

[visionary]

Which of the players in question were in the league when the last deal was struck? Also who had more leverage in negotiations? The circumstance of the agreement and the economics as a result aren’t what I’m arguing. Just that it’s not greedy for players to want more than the market dictates, when the market is constructed to suppress their earnings considerably. To the advantage of the already ultra wealthy billionaire owners

I guess I will never understand why fans of a professional TEAM argue for individual players to be paid top dollar? Why don’t they understand that over paying some players will mean less money to build the rest of the team and therefore, worse product ? Therefore fewer wins, and less chance of a championship

I guess it is too difficult a concept to grasp

 

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I guess I will never understand why fans of a professional TEAM argue for individual players to be paid top dollar? Why don’t they understand that over paying some players will mean less money to build the rest of the team and therefore, worse product ?

I guess it is too difficult a concept to grasp

Speaking of difficult concepts to grasp, I’m talking about greed and whether or not it’s accurate to describe players that way and especially relative to owners. I wish we could get everyone signed to respectable deals that allowed everyone to be happy and for us to retain talent easier. So yeah. Read better / more

 

[DasTex]

Gotcha we disagree about something trivial and it gets personal. Sounds good my man.

No problem man..agreed and don't mean to get personal. Hope this all gets worked out. Go Cowboys!

 

[America's Cowboy]

This is really not an argument that needs addressing. Elite athletes that drive a multi billion dollar industry have different standards of earning potential than you or I, *gasp*.

And whether you care what the owners are worth or not is immaterial. They constructed an environment that suppresses earnings, and to their extreme benefit. That’s greed. Should someone be happy and feel fortunate to make a ton of money playing sports? Sure, should they also ignore the massive disparity and take advantage of the brief opportunity to make as much of their actual worth as possible? Absolutely.

and while you’re painting the sunshine only picture of professional football, don’t forget about the insane physical toll it takes, CTE and the like.

agents are absolutely the hidden scumbags though, agreed.

You seem to forget that Jerry was the owner who was totally against a salary cap from coming to fruition back in the 90s. Remember, it was Mr. Jerry Jones who highly paid top talent. It's because of that that the league and the rest of the owners instituted a salary cap in order to handicap Jerry and the Dallas Cowboys, hence no Super Bowls since the mid-90s. You should be directing your anger at the other owners and the league while calling them "greedy", not Mr. Jerry Jones!

 

[America's Cowboy]

I guess I will never understand why fans of a professional TEAM argue for individual players to be paid top dollar? Why don’t they understand that over paying some players will mean less money to build the rest of the team and therefore, worse product ? Therefore fewer wins, and less chance of a championship

I guess it is too difficult a concept to grasp

I agree with this, but if you don't pay Dak top 5 QB pay (or close to it), you're going to lose him and any chance of getting close to a Super Bowl with this current talent for years to come. The Cowboys don't have equal or better talent waiting in the wings. Even if they were to use next year's 1st round pick on a QB, it's not a given that QB would turn out to be as good or better than Dak has been the past 3 years. It's easier to replace a very good RB than it is to replace a very good QB, especially in the shortest amount of time.

 

[Diehardblues]

You seem to forget that Jerry was the owner who was totally against a salary cap from coming to fruition back in the 90s. Remember, it was Mr. Jerry Jones who highly paid top talent. It's because of that that the league and the rest of the owners instituted a salary cap in order to handicap Jerry and the Dallas Cowboys, hence no Super Bowls since the mid-90s. You should be directing your anger at the other owners and the league while calling them "greedy", not Mr. Jerry Jones!

That’s not true. Jerry was supportive of the Salary Cap.

https://oklahoman.com/article/2509795/dallas-jones-pushes-for-salary-cap

 

[DandyDon52]

the problem is that owners have allowed a trend to develop whereby each new contract signed gives the player more money
than the last guy signed at that position.
There is no logic or evaluation of the player, it is all about previous contracts that have to be out done!
Elliot wants more than Gurley, is he better than gurley? nobody cares lol.
I wonder who was before Gurley |? a nobody?
Part of it for Elliot is just sheer ego, he wants to tell people he is the highest paid RB ever, now it wont be long before some other
RB gets more than Elliot, because that is just how it goes.

I think the AP contract showed that paying a RB a huge contract is a recipe for being a loser, Minn. gave AP the big contract,
then never could get past the first playoff game , and that was when they made the playoffs.

Now Dallas has 3 guys who want to be the highest paid ever at their position, and it just isnt realistic to give all 3 what they want.
To me Eliott is the most expendable of the 3, There are no viable options at QB, and cooper they gave a first for him,and he perked up the offense so really
they need to sign him.