Cowboys Missed Vander Esch

xwalker

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I know he's been the whipping boy around here the last few years. But if this is what the defense looks like without him we are in serious trouble.

They said a neck issue which probably means hes done for the year based on his injury history. Anthony Barr is awful as a full time backer.
Agree.
 

Cmac

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I question LVE, but the neck is a serious issue. Hope he is well, but a decision may need to be made. Cheering for him.
 

GimmeTheBall!

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So, I'm the son of Rambo.
You're really bad at this.

Plus, you're mixing up movies.
You are the son of Ramo?
My.
So you run through jungles refighting a lost war?
Lovely.
Pssst. Rambo is fictional. He'd cry in a real war.
Just like you would.
 

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Read: Common Denominator

We've changed DC's, DT's and fellow LBs yet still suck in run defense, and he's been the one constant.

Is he the best we have this year? Perhaps, but I don't think we'll miss him that much.

That said, we need to load up on LBs in the offseason.

People felt that way about Anthony Brown too. LVE started playing better the second half of last year and he's been pretty solid most of this year. While I wouldn't argue an upgrade, the drop-off might be bigger than you think. It sure was at CB2, for a lot of zoners.
 

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I want to see Gifford get some playing time. People say he’s too slow but the dude would bring some intensity and hunger that we are missing.
 

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Naw let's not do this. LVE has had a better than expected season but you don't "miss" him. This team takes the next man up approach and this is one of the rare times they didn't step up. But I'm not using LVE not out there as an excuse. That's the Garrett era.
You don’t play for the team and nothing you said makes any sense for a TV fan to be saying.
 

gimmesix

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We miss LVE and Anthony Brown. Don't have to be all pro to be a difference maker

I've never been down on either player like some have, but I am surprised that we seem to need them both as much as we do. Their shoes weren't supposed to be this hard to fill, especially with the depth we thought we had at their positions.
 

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What drugs are you on? What does this even mean?

Let me help you. You are a fan that watches from your couch. Your opinion that the team wouldn't "miss" LVE is irrelevant, your opinion that the team "doesn't make excuses because that was the Jason Garrett era" is irrelevant.
 

TheMarathonContinues

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Let me help you. You are a fan that watches from your couch. Your opinion that the team wouldn't "miss" LVE is irrelevant, your opinion that the team "doesn't make excuses because that was the Jason Garrett era" is irrelevant.
Which makes YOU irrelevant as well as this site so why exactly are you here? Help me out here. If you are a loser with a loser mentality just say that.
 

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I know he's been the whipping boy around here the last few years. But if this is what the defense looks like without him we are in serious trouble.

They said a neck issue which probably means hes done for the year based on his injury history. Anthony Barr is awful as a full time backer.
LVE Has been the whipping boy. We need him in there
 

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LVE is garbage and the outcome would have been the same
The fact he's even starting is unforgivable. And that his replacements are so much worse is incomprehensible. This team made some massive mistakes in the roster on the defensive side, not signing Suh or Joseph at DT being the worst of them. I noticed we slipped down to 8th in the defensive rankings. Will be interesting to see if we finish top 10 when the year is done.
 

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....and that tells how bad this team is. LVE is a game saver now.....wow. Some on the board think LVE is all that. This is a new low as the benchmark gets lower.
It's sad how standards have slipped so far around here.
 

TheMarathonContinues

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The fact he's even starting is unforgivable. And that his replacements are so much worse is incomprehensible. This team made some massive mistakes in the roster on the defensive side, not signing Suh or Joseph at DT being the worst of them. I noticed we slipped down to 8th in the defensive rankings. Will be interesting to see if we finish top 10 when the year is done.
You see how many yards the Eagles gave up in rushing? Not gonna say it’s all on the interior but Cowboys not stopping the run isn’t just on the interior. I’m starting to think it may also be a scheme issue. But personnel for sure. I don’t know it seemed like they were getting better but a LVE departure shouldn’t be the end all.
 
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