Cowboys must deal with Mincey issues

[KingintheNorth]

Yeah, because we show complacent players the door right quick.

Exactly. For a team that seems thrilled with themselves to just be alive for the playoffs Week 17 of the regular season we don't exactly scream "perform or else"!

 

[Idgit]

Exactly. For a team that seems thrilled with themselves to just be alive for the playoffs Week 17 of the regular season we don't exactly scream "perform or else"!

We've been pretty aggressive about weeding players off the roster under Garrett. And we churn needy position groups and aren't shy about playing players who have lower draft status when they outperform an entrenched starter. I'm not sure what people are seeing to indicate otherwise. Benching Mo is a pretty good example from last season. Letting Miles walk this season is another. Like it or not, Ware's production dipped way below what his contract called for us to pay him, and he's gone. Free was broken down and had to earn his spot last offseason. Dunbar was benched for fumbling early in the year. Beasley has earned his reps in the passing game. Escobar had to earn his way on the field, though everybody hated it. Hayden got more snaps on the DL last season than any other player because he earned the position out of nowhere. We churned the DL every week last season, cutting guys who couldn't perform after as little as a week some times. Jeff Heath earned heavy snaps in the rotation at S out of nowhere and the team cut Will Allen for not performing.

The real issue is the talent we have that outperforms the other players we've got is still not good enough to win games. But the culture here is actually pretty aggressive in terms of giving the snaps to the players that earn them.

 

[tm1119]

He will have plenty of time to lose all his money once he retires.

That's a stupid assumption. How do you know he's not setting up a successful business to take care of himself and his family? Maybe he's realistic and realizes that he has a new born and only a couple years of nfl checks left. Of all the crap that nfl players do off the field ragging on a guy for trying to start a business is pretty dumb.

 

[BigStar]

That's a stupid assumption. How do you know he's not setting up a successful business to take care of himself and his family? Maybe he's realistic and realizes that he has a new born and only a couple years of nfl checks left. Of all the crap that nfl players do off the field ragging on a guy for trying to start a business is pretty dumb.

I was just giving him a hard time for missing meetings/being disciplined over his nonchalant attitude towards football. It was more to pointing out that the music industry isn't the reliable business venture one would pursue if he were looking for stable income to raise a child on, etc. The fact that he would let this pipe dream interfere with his current primary (high paying) occupation doesn't bode well for the future of that business as well.

 

[OhSnap]

Well, Jerry can certainly relate in more ways than one.

Its a welcome excuse for not doing well at your real/primary job!

So your saying he's done a bad job because he's been distracted not because of incompetence?
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[OhSnap]

He's probably not the first player to lose interest in Jacksonville but I'm not sure Dallas is the place to go for LESS distractions.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

ORLANDO, Fla. -- In his seven NFL seasons, [SIZE=+0]Jeremy Mincey[/SIZE] can be best described as a good player on the field, but inconsistent off it.

The Cowboys signed Mincey as a potential starter at defensive end, but last season in Jacksonville there were issues.

Mincey wasn't allowed to travel to to a road game at Houston for violating team rules and he was deactivated for another game for missing meetings. Mincey told reporters he was distracted with a new baby and starting a business.

Mincey wasn't using it as an excuse, but just dealing with his issues. Eventually things became too much for the Jags and they released him and he was later picked up by Denver.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4726082/cowboys-must-deal-with-mincey-issues

http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.co...ctions-in-jacksonville-former-coach-says.html

I wonder what kind of bidness. Hope the business is legal.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Another concern of mein:

If we are gonna sign a player with off-the-field problems, sign someone really good, not just some run of the mill player. Make him worth the problems he bring.

 

[OhSnap]

Another concern of mein:

If we are gonna sign a player with off-the-field problems, sign someone really good, not just some run of the mill player. Make him worth the problems he bring.

Thats what killed the deal with Allen, he was good but no off the field problems that would indicate the mental instability required to intimidate guys like Eli Manning. Mincey is just a compromise.

 

[BigStar]

Thats what killed the deal with Allen, he was good but no off the field problems that would indicate the mental instability required to intimidate guys like Eli Manning. Mincey is just a compromise.

DUIs Don't love the Mincey pickup either outside of the price tag. Get the player that got booted off his jv team for cutting class to make records (gimme that player!)

 

[jterrell]

Mincey is a 30 year old former 6th round pick who hasn't made a fortune by NFL standards.
Not going to hate on the guy for starting a business and losing focus in Jax where they've won 6 games in two years.
For anyone who thinks Dallas is a losing culture imagine winning 10 less games the past 2 seasons....

The guy is a stop gap at best and it is what it is. Cheap, plug and play spare part.

What he does have is a long playoff run and Super Bowl appearance from last year.

 

[BigStar]

Mincey is a 30 year old former 6th round pick who hasn't made a fortune by NFL standards.
Not going to hate on the guy for starting a business and losing focus in Jax where they've won 6 games in two years.
For anyone who thinks Dallas is a losing culture imagine winning 10 less games the past 2 seasons....

The guy is a stop gap at best and it is what it is. Cheap, plug and play spare part.

What he does have is a long playoff run and Super Bowl appearance from last year.

The team can cut him in TC if he acts up or proves to not be worthy though (honest q)? The money was small but he isn't guranteed anything and can move to depth if another player emerges? Just hope he has the proper motivation, etc.

 

[jterrell]

The team can cut him in TC if he acts up or proves to not be worthy though (honest q)? The money was small but he isn't guranteed anything and can move to depth if another player emerges? Just hope he has the proper motivation, etc.

Right now with Selvie and Crawford he is in that mix. He should be motivated by business. If he wins the job he probably earns the 4.5 deal he just signed.
If he loses the job he is a back up and probably fighting to stay on the team out of camp.

Dallas had to have a body there. But I think we'd all prefer a young r1 or r2 DE over Mincey.
Because that is all just common sense I think he is showing decent awareness in starting to plan for life after football.
It gets there fast for guys over 30 who aren't and weren't ever elite.

I am much more concerned with Lewan's off-field activities than Mincey's.

 

[the_h0wey]

ORLANDO, Fla. -- In his seven NFL seasons, [SIZE=+0]Jeremy Mincey[/SIZE] can be best described as a good player on the field, but inconsistent off it.

The Cowboys signed Mincey as a potential starter at defensive end, but last season in Jacksonville there were issues.

Mincey wasn't allowed to travel to to a road game at Houston for violating team rules and he was deactivated for another game for missing meetings. Mincey told reporters he was distracted with a new baby and starting a business.

Mincey wasn't using it as an excuse, but just dealing with his issues. Eventually things became too much for the Jags and they released him and he was later picked up by Denver.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4726082/cowboys-must-deal-with-mincey-issues

http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.co...ctions-in-jacksonville-former-coach-says.html

Does this mean we have abandoned the RKG thing?

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Mincey is a 30 year old former 6th round pick who hasn't made a fortune by NFL standards.
Not going to hate on the guy for starting a business and losing focus in Jax where they've won 6 games in two years.
For anyone who thinks Dallas is a losing culture imagine winning 10 less games the past 2 seasons....

The guy is a stop gap at best and it is what it is. Cheap, plug and play spare part.

What he does have is a long playoff run and Super Bowl appearance from last year.

So tell me again the upside of a stop-gap (journeyman) who bring of-the-field problems?

 

[jterrell]

So tell me again the upside of a stop-gap (journeyman) who bring of-the-field problems?

the upside is you don't panic and reach in r1 for a DE if a higher rated player is available.
as to whether or not he has off-the-field problems well that's certainly debatable.

his issues were so bad he was cut from Jax who had no desire to wins games and ended up somehow able to focus on going to the Super Bow weeks later for Denver.

he had no such off-field issues in 2012 when Jax outbid Chicago and Rod to resign him.

 

[BigStar]

Right now with Selvie and Crawford he is in that mix. He should be motivated by business. If he wins the job he probably earns the 4.5 deal he just signed.
If he loses the job he is a back up and probably fighting to stay on the team out of camp.

Dallas had to have a body there. But I think we'd all prefer a young r1 or r2 DE over Mincey.
Because that is all just common sense I think he is showing decent awareness in starting to plan for life after football.
It gets there fast for guys over 30 who aren't and weren't ever elite.

I am much more concerned with Lewan's off-field activities than Mincey's.

But we have no shot @ Lewan? But as to Mincey, if he keeps his nose clean and can allocate the time appropriate for both venture(s) then I have no problem with it. Just seemed like an odd choice is all.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

I wonder what kind of bidness. Hope the business is legal.

I believe its a recording studio..... Like there isn't enough of those already!

 

[jterrell]

But we have no shot @ Lewan? But as to Mincey, if he keeps his nose clean and can allocate the time appropriate for both venture(s) then I have no problem with it. Just seemed like an odd choice is all.

I expect Lewan is a faller come draft day. His off-field stuff is scary bad. I expect he is in the box for Dallas and off our board. Not even the neanderthal of the Dolphins was texting out rape threats to women.

He clearly has elite talent though and some team will take the chance and commit elite resources like r1 pick and big money to the guy.
That's scary.

It is not scary signing a vet with no guarantees who got bored of losing and was late to some meetings and cut as part of the youth movement. --Jax cut like 8 guys.
Mincey is either a mediocre NFL DE for us or he is a soon to be released free agent.
He prevents exactly zero other moves and uses up zero real resources.
BTW, hardly excusing Mincey, you should darn well be on time, but it just isn't really an issue because we'll take 100 bodies to camp and have the same commitment to Mincey as we do the least talented of those 100.

 

[big dog cowboy]

First it's Dez not it's Mincey. What a day.