Cowboys need offensive boost even with Romo

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Reuben Randle, Josh Gordon for example.

The lament seems to be that we need a legit #2...... I think it's more likely you get an immediate impact #2 as a free agent than from the draft.
 

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Second chances. That was his first HC run.

I don't believe he should get a second chance here. The other issue is that there aren't very many coaches in the Belicheck coaching tree that became big successes. Three guys went onto to NFL head jobs right from under Belicheck - all failed. Weis bombed out at Notre Dame and then made Kansas even worse than Kansas normally is. O'Brien might be a success after he left NE to go to PSU and then Houston. And Saban, obviously became a stud college coach, but was a dud in the pros.

Payton well before McDaniels. My fear is that Belicheck makes the assistants look better than they really are and Brady makes the OCs looks awesome when in fact they are mediocre.
 

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Said in my thread... We still need more talent on offense.

We need more talent on both sides of the ball. Twill is an ok #2 but we could have the option of adding another #1 talent. We need cb's, we need another RB and another lb, and you can never have too many pass rushers
Lots of guys could help this team. Another inside pass rusher who demands a double team, a dynamic CB who can get some turnovers but if the chance to find a starting QB for the future is there you have to take him first
 

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Even when Romo returns next year with Dez Bryant and Lance Dunbar (note that Dunbar is a free agent), this offense needs a serious infusion of speed and talent. I do think we made a mistake re-signing Dez to all that money. I suggested earlier that he should be traded and I stick by that. When he doesn't produce the entire offense struggles.

I really think that Beasley can be a fine 3rd receiver, but he can only do so if the 2nd receiver is also quality.

Not sure if we need to make a bunch of changes on the offensive coaching staff, but I'm not enamored by the fact that they can't bring players along properly.

Wade Wilson absolutely should be fired.

Brice Butler should have been incorporated the whole season. McFadden should have started from day 1.

We do need to fix some things on defense, and the cost of doing so may even prevent us from re-signing Hardy. We need to completely retool the secondary and add a proper 1 technique. Hayden should not be on this team next year. We should not get confused however in thinking that the defense needs more help than the offense. It doesn't.

We should come out of this draft with a running back and a wide receiver in the first three picks. I would probably look to trade Terrance Williams.

Some great points....but to say we shouldn't have paid Dez and then say when he doesn't produce the entire offense struggles is strange.....

I want a real second WR...I like Alshon Jeffery who will be a free agent.
I like Hardy but that 11 million may get us more with Romo throwing to Dez and Jeffery.
Not sure anyone would give us anything for T Will. He should get demoted if we can. He is cheap and should take Streets position.
 

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We need two sub. 4.4 receivers on this roster no matter the size. We need speed safeties.

A play-making RB and a QB drafted high.
 

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Said in my thread... We still need more talent on offense.

You could draft Pro Bowlers all over this offense. It still would not matter.

It is too predicated on simplistic concepts and "beating your man".

This is the NFL. The talent gap is far too narrow for that kind of shallow thinking.

The best offensive minds know how to beat concepts. They are proactive in finding plays that beat the plays, by design. Then the players do not matter nearly as much.

And if one gets injured, you can plug in another guy.
 

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You could draft Pro Bowlers all over this offense. It still would not matter.

It is too predicated on simplistic concepts and "beating your man".

This is the NFL. The talent gap is far too narrow for that kind of shallow thinking.

The best offensive minds know how to beat concepts. They are proactive in finding plays that beat the plays, by design. Then the players do not matter nearly as much.

And if one gets injured, you can plug in another guy.

Well if you read what I posted I pretty much said we had to have better talent that eclipses the other team... Due to our coaching. Everybody and their mothers knew that Jimmah wanted to run run run 22 and they could not stop it no matter how the other team coached it up. We were just so dominate and talented. It was not until our talent started to deplete under Switzer that it hurt us.... Remember the multiple runs up the middle vs the Eagles and them stopping it.... That was the start of the fall of that group.

Now Jason wants to keep it going like that with a good oline and it was working to a degree last year with the right mix of QB, WR and RB.

Problem with that is the salary cap. We can't do like we did under Jimmy

Bur whether or not we can overcome the vanilla schemes or not... We need a better run game next year, better backup QB and possibly better WR depth. They gambled on Romo health, Weeden at backup, a stable of RBs and the gamble went south when we were holding a pair of deuces and everyone else had a pair of face cards.
 

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We missed Callihan a lot. The O-line couldn't protect Romo consistently or create running lanes. Last year Murray gained half of his yards before contact. We need to get that together. If the O-line plays the way they did last year we will improve on the offensive side of the ball.
 

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Let's be honest we need another tight end as well. Witten will get his numbers but it's time for a real threat at that position. I've just about had enough of tip toeing, can't jump, tipped passes, false starts and running short of the 1st down Witten. He's a legend but his time is near.

Romo would cry like a baby if Witten weren't here. Garrett doesn't have the stones to sit him either.
 

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We should come out of this draft with a running back and a wide receiver in the first three picks. I would probably look to trade Terrance Williams.

I think all the team's ills go back to not having Romo and when he was out, a RB that could carry the team. Totally agree on RB and WR in the draft (though I would love to pick up a FA like Jeffrey) and I just posted a minute ago in another thread that I would traded TWill also.

Fixing the WR corps won't be that hard. Picking up a RB in the draft won't be either. Its back to the SOS as this year, its all about Romo staying healthy.
 

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We missed Callihan a lot. The O-line couldn't protect Romo consistently or create running lanes. Last year Murray gained half of his yards before contact. We need to get that together. If the O-line plays the way they did last year we will improve on the offensive side of the ball.

I don't really put it on Callahan or DeMarco leaving. The OL didn't play well early and suffered from Free declining and Collins having the typical rookie adjustments. Tyron Smith also had more breakdown plays than last year. I think its mainly about them not having the continuity they had last year, having to adjust to different backup QBs and also having some games with Randle playing poorly.
 

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Well if you read what I posted I pretty much said we had to have better talent that eclipses the other team... Due to our coaching. Everybody and their mothers knew that Jimmah wanted to run run run 22 and they could not stop it no matter how the other team coached it up. We were just so dominate and talented. It was not until our talent started to deplete under Switzer that it hurt us.... Remember the multiple runs up the middle vs the Eagles and them stopping it.... That was the start of the fall of that group.

Now Jason wants to keep it going like that with a good oline and it was working to a degree last year with the right mix of QB, WR and RB.

Problem with that is the salary cap. We can't do like we did under Jimmy

Bur whether or not we can overcome the vanilla schemes or not... We need a better run game next year, better backup QB and possibly better WR depth. They gambled on Romo health, Weeden at backup, a stable of RBs and the gamble went south when we were holding a pair of deuces and everyone else had a pair of face cards.

BP you have a point but even Jimmy with as good as a team we had back then being able to enforce our will on the other team ran more play action first down passes than we do now.
 

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I'm tired of dumping resources into the offense. It's like a black hole. I'd rather invest more resources into the defense. Even with Romo and Dez out, we have more than enough talent than to score more than 2 field goals.
 

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BP you have a point but even Jimmy with as good as a team we had back then being able to enforce our will on the other team ran more play action first down passes than we do now.

We could also throw screens when we needed.... But my general point still stands. We were pretty vanilla and did not fool many... We just were so good we could get away with it. Same reason Jerry said his famous line and went out and proved it with Switzer.
 

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Reuben Randle, Josh Gordon for example.

The lament seems to be that we need a legit #2...... I think it's more likely you get an immediate impact #2 as a free agent than from the draft.

I'd be interested in Josh Gordon, he would be significant fire power for this offense. That being said, many would disagree given how dumb he is.
 

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I think all the team's ills go back to not having Romo and when he was out, a RB that could carry the team. Totally agree on RB and WR in the draft (though I would love to pick up a FA like Jeffrey) and I just posted a minute ago in another thread that I would traded TWill also.

Fixing the WR corps won't be that hard. Picking up a RB in the draft won't be either. Its back to the SOS as this year, its all about Romo staying healthy.

I definitely feel as though we would be wise to get that top receiver in free agency, to open us up in the draft.

If we could get Alshon Jeffrey or Josh Gordon and pair them with Dez, with Beasley in the slot, we'd be pretty productive.

You draft Elliot or Henry in the draft and now you have a great offense again, and you still have plenty of picks to dedicate to the defense.
 

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We missed Callihan a lot. The O-line couldn't protect Romo consistently or create running lanes. Last year Murray gained half of his yards before contact. We need to get that together. If the O-line plays the way they did last year we will improve on the offensive side of the ball.

You would think from the lack of a passing game that the oline is not pass blocking well... But if you watch... They really are doing enough and the QB(s) have had enough time.... We just can not seem to : scheme the WRs to get open, see and hit them while they are open, take the check down because they are afraid of turning it over or just don't have the long range accuracy.

Now I am not talking every time... But you watch and more times than you think, they are giving the QB enough time.

Now the run game has been different but I think that is a product of the defenses not respecting this Motley crew of QBs so they just load up the box.
 

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Some great points....but to say we shouldn't have paid Dez and then say when he doesn't produce the entire offense struggles is strange.....

I want a real second WR...I like Alshon Jeffery who will be a free agent.
I like Hardy but that 11 million may get us more with Romo throwing to Dez and Jeffery.
Not sure anyone would give us anything for T Will. He should get demoted if we can. He is cheap and should take Streets position.

You've allocated a certain percentage of your overall resources to Dez, when he doesn't produce, the teams investment in him becomes a ballast. Where you now have to rely on less talented players to play well above their salaries.

Our pass rush was anemic WITH hardy, and now we're going to let him go? Not sure that is going to improve the pass rush, though I do agree we need to make sure we get a top wide receiver to pair with Bryant. If we get Jeffery, I'd try to move Williams for a 4th or 5th. He does have some production on the league. If we got Josh Gordon, I would keep Williams as our 4th receiver in case he implodes here as well.
 

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I definitely feel as though we would be wise to get that top receiver in free agency, to open us up in the draft.

If we could get Alshon Jeffrey or Josh Gordon and pair them with Dez, with Beasley in the slot, we'd be pretty productive.

You draft Elliot or Henry in the draft and now you have a great offense again, and you still have plenty of picks to dedicate to the defense.

I like Elliot but I love the idea of Devontrae Booker in the 2nd round. Put him with McFadden, Dunbar and a bigger RB that can bang away between the tackles and the position is a strength overnight.

I haven't really followed Gordon and know he is super talented, but isn't he kind of a knucklehead?
 
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