Cowboys news 02/13/2017

[Zimmy Lives]

I'm not really a fan of paying Church a lot of money to stay. He is serviceable at best. I think all this coach on the field stuf is great, but only if they can ALSO play football at a high level. Sean Lee falls into the latter class.

Oddly enough, Church was probably the most consistent DB last season and played his position at the highest level. He is like a Snickers bar, you know what you're gone get. The rest of the guys (under 30) in the secondary were inconsistent and can benefit from Church's leadership.

 

[Idgit]

I thought that as well until Williams pretty much Calle him "moody" last week.

I think he would prefer to stay in Dallas with Dak than follow Romo..unless the team that has Romo is going to pay him a chunk which is highly doubtful. The team that lands Romo will likely be a good team that has good players already in place and likely tight on cap space after signing Romo.

Oh, I'm sure he prefers to stay in Dallas. He'll have to give a little hometown discount if he's going to, though. I like Williams just fine. I think he's a guy they'll try to keep, but I don't think they're going to break the bank for him. Whereas, if Tony goes someplace that could use a WR, they'd make a pretty good pair.

I'd be surprised if Terrence didn't like Tony quite a bit, too. Even with the Moody comments. Tony's publicly always been very positive about TW, and I think they have a productive relationship.

I guess the other option is joining RGIII in CLE, if that's still a thing. Those two were close too, right?

 

[Gameover]

Todd Archer of ESPN mentions that the Cowboys’ coaching staff are much higher on WR Terrance Williams than many outside the organization would expect. Archer adds that issue for the Cowboys in terms of keeping Williams will be his asking price, as he’ll likely be able to get a better offer from another team.

Anybody with a clue wouldn't be

Archer expects CB Morris Claiborne to be looking at another one-year deal as a free agent, considering that he’s yet to play a full season in the NFL. Although, Claiborne’s injury history could help his odds of being back in Dallas next year, writes Archer.

Let another team take the gamble

Should Terrance Williams sign elsewhere, the Cowboys could turn their attention to keeping WR Brice Butler.

Even if both are back, drafting one in the third should be a priority

Archer says that Lance Dunbar‘s future with the Cowboys will likely come down to whether they re-sign Darren McFadden.

He needs to G.O

He's been nothing but a waste of space and time.

 

[DFWJC]

Tony's a big fan of is, too. If he leaves, it's likely to the team we trade Romo to.

Wasnt Williams recently making comments on how nice to have Dak and his lack of moodiness?
Do hink that wasnt aimed at Tony at all?

 

[Daillest88]

I can understand keeping Twill if dak is comfortable with him but we better not give him a big deal, Alot of recievers we can get in the later rounds

 

[Idgit]

Wasnt Williams recently making comments on how nice to have Dak and his lack of moodiness?
Do hink that wasnt aimed at Tony at all?

I think Tony's probably moody. We've pretty much heard as much before. That doesn't mean the two players don't like and respect each other. I think Dak's just more likable and approachable in the locker room. Just like there are probably dudes in your office you like just fine or respect a lot professionally but who aren't the guys you like to hang around all that much.

Tony, though, for his part, says nice things about Terrence. Like this one from after the Vikes game: "He’s had a great offseason," Romo said at halftime. "He had a great camp, and he is getting better and better. He is probably one of the best run-after-the-catch guys I have ever seen. Whenever he gets the ball in his hands, he has a chance to score.

Since I honestly haven't seen anybody worth his salt say anything bad about Tony at any point, I have a hard time believing he and Terrence dont' have a good working relationship after all these years.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I just don't see teams paying TWill a bunch of money.
He is a role player WR, and a damn good one.
He's a solid #2, inconsistent but nonetheless reliable for the most part.
He's never injured or an offield headache.
I would prefer signing Garcon over him but his injury history is a little concerning.
He isn't as fast as TWill but he is a better all around receiver.
I do look forward to see how Andy Jones has progressed after a year on the PS.
He was pushing seriously for a roster spot last TC but kind of faded.

I rather have Williams over Garcon. Williams scores more TDs plus he is younger.....which we need to stay doing. Not an old vet

 

[big dog cowboy]

WR is a problem is that we don't have anybody who stretches the defense. Dez has lost a step with all his injuries and the rest scares nobody. Witten and the TEs need help,too.

So while defence maybe a draft answer..finishing the offense to be DAK Friendly is majorly important,too.

We need more help to score more points.

Team scoring this year:
ATL - 540
NO - 469
NE - 441
GB - 432
DAL - 421
ARZ - 418
OAK - 416
INDY - 411
SD - 410

We need more help to score more points???

No, we need to fix the defense before addressing the issues you raised.

 

[Redball Express]

Team scoring this year:
ATL - 540
NO - 469
NE - 441
GB - 432
DAL - 421
ARZ - 418
OAK - 416
INDY - 411
SD - 410

We need more help to score more points???

No, we need to fix the defense before addressing the issues you raised.

I just think spending too much effort right now on the defense..

especially with Romo's cap hit..

is not going to help us very quickly.

Its going to take years to fix this defense.

I just think we are better off trying to win now and continue the offensive uptick.

We will find guys that will play defense along the way and Marinelli will coach them.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Its going to take years to fix this defense.

Adding Smith, Tapper and a couple early draft picks to the front 7 will do wonders for our defense THIS year.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Adding Smith, Tapper and a couple early draft picks to the front 7 will do wonders for our defense THIS year.

The defense isn't that far away. They had some pretty good stretches where they played very well. Add some more talent and they will improve again

 

[conner01]

I'd like to see Williams back but it will cost Dallas one of the safeties or T. McClain.

The only vet over 30 I want back is Church. Dallas has to get younger on defense, especially at safety and CB.

Won't cost you any player to sign Twill but may cost you too much for a #2 with a #1 on a big contract

 

[Setackin]

• Todd Archer of ESPN mentions that the Cowboys’ coaching staff are much higher on WR Terrance Williams than many outside the organization would expect. Archer adds that issue for the Cowboys in terms of keeping Williams will be his asking price, as he’ll likely be able to get a better offer from another team.
• Archer expects CB Morris Claiborne to be looking at another one-year deal as a free agent, considering that he’s yet to play a full season in the NFL. Although, Claiborne’s injury history could help his odds of being back in Dallas next year, writes Archer.
• If the Cowboys lose G Ronald Leary in free agency, which many anticipate, Archer says that the Cowboys could try to re-sign G Jonathan Cooper, given that he’s capable of playing both guard and center.
• Should Terrance Williams sign elsewhere, the Cowboys could turn their attention to keeping WR Brice Butler.
• Archer says that Lance Dunbar‘s future with the Cowboys will likely come down to whether they re-sign Darren McFadden.
• The same can be said of S J.J. Wilcox and S Barry Church.
• Archer wouldn’t be surprised if veteran LB Justin Durant contemplated retirement this offseason.

I don't find any of this too surprising, even the T-Will part. I think the Cowboys may try and keep its offensive FAs, that way more resources are available to the Defense.

it seems the Cowboys strategy going into the draft, is to not have any glaring holes where possible. It's a sound strategy that prevents reaching.

It's strange, but I'm actually starting to get confidence in the FOoff-season strategy.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

Team scoring this year:
ATL - 540
NO - 469
NE - 441
GB - 432
DAL - 421
ARZ - 418
OAK - 416
INDY - 411
SD - 410

We need more help to score more points???

No, we need to fix the defense before addressing the issues you raised.

You realize Dallas was also fifth in scoring defense, right?

I'm not arguing that Dallas doesn't need help on D, but if you're using points scored as your evidence the offense doesn't need help then you can say the same thing on defense.

 

[thisiscowboyscountry]

I just don't see teams paying TWill a bunch of money.
He is a role player WR, and a damn good one.
He's a solid #2, inconsistent but nonetheless reliable for the most part.
He's never injured or an offield headache.
I would prefer signing Garcon over him but his injury history is a little concerning.
He isn't as fast as TWill but he is a better all around receiver.
I do look forward to see how Andy Jones has progressed after a year on the PS.
He was pushing seriously for a roster spot last TC but kind of faded.

The only positive is the WR market this year has a lot of #2 role type players. Maybe that pushes down Williams price and if not there will be other options. For Williams contract you may see something similar to the deal signed by Sanu 5 years 30 million range. Thats a little much if that is what the market is. To me 4 million a year seems like fair market value for what he brings. 4 years 16 million

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

The only positive is the WR market this year has a lot of #2 role type players. Maybe that pushes down Williams price and if not there will be other options. For Williams contract you may see something similar to the deal signed by Sanu 5 years 30 million range. Thats a little much if that is what the market is. To me 4 million a year seems like fair market value for what he brings. 4 years 16 million

The biggest problem with the WR market for Dallas is 1. The Tavon Austin deal and 2. There's a bunch of teams with way more cap space - even after the restructures are factored in. But mostly the Austin deal (4 years, $42 million)

 

[jrumann59]

You realize Dallas was also fifth in scoring defense, right?

I'm not arguing that Dallas doesn't need help on D, but if you're using points scored as your evidence the offense doesn't need help then you can say the same thing on defense.

do not fall in love with that stat, that along with turnovers is roller coaster ride. Remember this is the same defense that was good in 2014, sucked in 2015, and good in 2016. A lot of that hinged on the offense, this defense while opportunistic, do you trust them to shut down an offense that has ball at the Dallas 30 yard line and only needs a FG to win?

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

do not fall in love with that stat, that along with turnovers is roller coaster ride. Remember this is the same defense that was good in 2014, sucked in 2015, and good in 2016. A lot of that hinged on the offense, this defense while opportunistic, do you trust them to shut down an offense that has ball at the Dallas 30 yard line and only needs a FG to win?

The whole point of the post was that the offense isn't infallible. Did you stop reading after the first sentence?

 

[bodi]

sign Willcox

neither T will or Butler

and say bye to Dunbar

 

[big dog cowboy]

You realize Dallas was also fifth in scoring defense, right?

The same defense that started the GB playoff game by allowing 3 scoring drives each over 70 yards, could hardly get a turnover all year and struggled to get pressure on opposing QB's? Once again when it counted in January, Rodgers beat us for the 2nd playoff game in a row due to the defense. Until that gets fixed, I am more than fine with the Cowboys offense being top 5 in scoring. That top 5 defense collapsed when it counted most.