Cowboys 'No' on Hardy

[esloan]

Has no one been listening when coach is talking about getting the RKG? Did you think he was just kidding? A guy on the commish's exempt list is not the right kind of guy. Why would anyone think this team would really be interested? I can understand wanting him on our defense but actually thinking there was a chance of that happening is just not keeping things real. I don't understand why this would be a surprise to fan's that keep up with the team.

Look, I am fine with not wanting Hardy because he is "not the right type of guy". Garrett thinks he is more trouble than he is worth? Fine. Don't sign him.

But, the fact we have not picked up a single impact player for this defense worries the hell out of me. Don't want to sign Hardy? Sign someone else. Orakpo, Derrick Morgan....somebody. We have gotten weaker thus far this off-season.

I realize that the off-season is not over yet but I worry that we will rely on draft picks to make an immediate impact and that doesn't always happen. Yes, we could sign some castoffs after the June 1st cuts but they are castoffs for a reason.

Had we kept Durant or Carter, I would worry less but, as it stands now, I am worried.

 

[Jenky]

Re-signing Clutts

This is great news. Potentially a low risk, high reward game changer here folks.

 

[DFWJC]

Losing Jason Worilds is a pretty big hit for Pittsburgh

 

[CATCH17]

1. Justin Houston (Franchise Tagged)
2. Jerry Hughes (Re-signed 5-year, $45M deal with BUF)
3. Jason Pierre-Paul (Franchise Tagged)
4. Greg Hardy
5. Brian Orakpo (Signed 4-year, $32M deal with TEN)
6. Pernell McPhee (Signed 5-year, $39M deal with CHI)
7. Jabaal Sheard (Signed 2-year, $11M deal with NE)
8. Jason Worilds (Retired)
9. Brandon Graham (Re-signed 4-year, $26M deal with PHI)
10. Derrick Morgan (Re-signed 4-year, $27M deal with TEN)
11. Adrian Clayborn (Signed 1-year, $4.5M deal with ATL)
12. Michael Johnson
13. Akeem Ayers (Signed 2-year, $6M deal with STL)
14. Brooks Reed (Signed 5-year, $22M deal with ATL)
15. Trent Cole (Signed 2-year, $14M deal with IND)
16. John Abraham
17. George Selvie
18. LaMarr Woodley (Signed 1-year, $950K deal with ARZ)
19.

I'd kick the tires on Michael Johnson.

A lot of talent there and a great position coach.

He looked great in Cincy.

1 bad year and hes all of a sudden a bum? No.

Go get that guy.

 

[Sydla]

Only decent guy left is Michael Johnson

What happened to Bowers' career? I thought he'd be a stud in this league.

 

[mldardy]

I'd kick the tires on Michael Johnson.

A lot of talent there and a great position coach.

He looked great in Cincy.

1 bad year and hes all of a sudden a bum? No.

Go get that guy.

I'm not sure why we haven't. I see the Vikings are looking at him.

 

[AzorAhai]

Only decent guy left is Michael Johnson

Hes more of a run stopper than pass rusher

 

[jterrell]

This team talked him out of retirement.

we had his rights and he was never a free agent.

if he was a free agent we never would have touched him. --may have moved on quickly if it wasn't for the victim's mom.
a judge ruled hardy did threaten and assault his gf at the time.
if hardy was a cowboy when that happened we probably stand by him.
but he wasn't and we probably won't touch him now.

the trial itself cast a dark light beyond a quick domestic situation.
hardy was in the presence and probably using coke, was drinking and wielding an impressive arsenal of weapons.
we can debate how much of the actual fight he was responsible for and whether or not he really threatened the chick with a gun to her head but the other stuff was corroborated by other witnesses and even the stuff that happened out in public is questionable.
so hardy is not a RKoG period.
sorry your feelings are hurt by that but Fish is a legit reporter and the story is very likely true.

 

[Stash]

Terrible news.

Pass rush isn't getting fixed this year...

 

[mldardy]

Hes more of a run stopper than pass rusher

Need that too.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

At this point going BPA in the draft is not going to be easy. RB, LB, DE, CB all need to be addressed. The pass rush will be questionable at best again next year. Hardy is the one guy that could completely remove a need thats left. Disappointing if this is true.

Yup! DE and RB are the two most glaring needs. They can still add depth though free agency but they must definitely must address the d-line.

I'd kick the tires on Michael Johnson.

A lot of talent there and a great position coach.

He looked great in Cincy.

1 bad year and hes all of a sudden a bum? No.

Go get that guy.

Did not think about Johnson. Definitely worth a look.

 

[jterrell]

I'm not sure why we haven't. I see the Vikings are looking at him.

well the quick answer is kiffin talks to guys in tampa.
if they saw enough to flat cut him you gotta assume it is work ethic related.

mcclay/rod combo has done good things with additions like selvie and mincey. we need that duo to work its magic for sure.

i'd go get the guy btw, i think he offers a good value right now after a year in football purgatory.

 

[jrumann59]

Again I could careless one way or the other but too many here get RKG confused with choir boy and that is not the case. Brent was retired he came back and the cowboys signed him to an extension no less. The cowboys did not have to talk him out of retirement, if he was not RKG his friends mother's pleas would mean nothing, not mention then sign him to an extension. Hardy was found guilty by a judge in the NC court system that makes most misdemeanors go through a bench trial and he was found guilty by the judge, who may have had a bias, and then had the case dismissed on the jury trial, under suspicious circumstances but his record shows NO CONVICTION.

 

[Stash]

Hardy is a talent and it would have been nice.
But not a RKoG likely to be had at the right price so it was always an extreme longshot.

The team has acknowledged pass rush issues so hopefully a move is forthcoming.

At this point, I don't see a move to be made.

The music has stopped and we don't have a seat.

 

[jrumann59]

well the quick answer is kiffin talks to guys in tampa.
if they saw enough to flat cut him you gotta assume it is work ethic related.

mcclay/rod combo has done good things with additions like selvie and mincey. we need that duo to work its magic for sure.

i'd go get the guy btw, i think he offers a good value right now after a year in football purgatory.

I would disagree no way TB gives Carter that big of a contract if Marinelli was honest to Lovie about him.

 

[Silver N Blue]

But, the fact we have not picked up a single impact player for this defense worries the hell out of me. Don't want to sign Hardy? Sign someone else. Orakpo, Derrick Morgan....somebody. We have gotten weaker thus far this off-season.

Exactly and no one is left so your left with rolling the dice with draft. One will said player even be there and two will said player be able to bring an impact like Martin last year....that is the type of player this team needs if they want to take the next step.

 

[Stash]

dont see any rookie improving our pass rush significantly.

They never do, even the great ones. The documented fact is that rookie pass rushers do not make an impact.

 

[AzorAhai]

well the quick answer is kiffin talks to guys in tampa.
if they saw enough to flat cut him you gotta assume it is work ethic related.

mcclay/rod combo has done good things with additions like selvie and mincey. we need that duo to work its magic for sure.

i'd go get the guy btw, i think he offers a good value right now after a year in football purgatory.

Kiffin is out. Marinelli would be the one doing those communications

 

[Kevinicus]

we had his rights and he was never a free agent.

if he was a free agent we never would have touched him. --may have moved on quickly if it wasn't for the victim's mom.
a judge ruled hardy did threaten and assault his gf at the time.
if hardy was a cowboy when that happened we probably stand by him.
but he wasn't and we probably won't touch him now.

the trial itself cast a dark light beyond a quick domestic situation.
hardy was in the presence and probably using coke, was drinking and wielding an impressive arsenal of weapons.
we can debate how much of the actual fight he was responsible for and whether or not he really threatened the chick with a gun to her head but the other stuff was corroborated by other witnesses and even the stuff that happened out in public is questionable.
so hardy is not a RKoG period.
sorry your feelings are hurt by that but Fish is a legit reporter and the story is very likely true.

So Hardy was drunk, had some coke, had a huge arsenal of weapons, beat up his gf, and then decided to call the cops? Does that make sense to you?

 

[AzorAhai]

Rumors Raiders are negotiating or even talking to Hardy are supposedly false

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawaka...g-interested-greg-hardy-false-falser-falsest/