If this response was directed to me, you totally missed my whole point and wasted alot of time on this response. I never said anything about retreads. My point is yes, there are many on here that (in a round about way) think if we don't make it to the playoffs this year, the world is going to end. What I was saying was why get in a tizzy? Chill out. If Jerry wants us to get to the playoffs like he says he wants us to, you don't hire coaches to learn on the job. Me? I'm not expecting us to do anything this year or even next year (if CP stays on as DC). If we have a winning season this year, great. If we have a losing season this year, great.
Mike McCarthy was our HC for 5 years. What was our record those 5 years? Year 1, losing season (because McCarthy was cleaning up the podunk that Jason Garrett left behind), years 2, 3 and 4, 12-5, Year 5, a losing season because the Joneses decided to get rid of Parsons, Diggs and Lawrence and not doing anything to replace them I liked Dan Quinn and Mike Zimmer. I am of the belief that had Jerry not done this, we could have had yet another winning season. Between this and hiring coaches to learn on the job, this is us not getting anywhere by design. This is in fact on purpose.
To some fans, Post Season and the Superbowl are all that matter. Me? Of course I want us to get to the playoffs and to the Superbowl however, I've lost faith that we will see a Superbowl anytime soon. But I will continue to cheer them on anyways.
I will re-iterate, Given the circumstances, I'm not in any hurry of us getting to the playoffs let alone to the Superbowl. If we have a winning season this year, great. If we have a losing season this year, great. In 2-3 years from now, if we have the same coaching staff, then yes, I'm going to be one of the ones that go into a tizzy if we don't make the playoffs.
If you haven’t noticed, the general tone and feeling here has been that most people wanted Mike McCarthy gone because they didn’t want another coach of that type, they wanted something new. The majority said no retreads, and that’s exactly what was being discussed. I thought Pete Carroll would have been the best choice, but he didn’t work out, and Bill Belichick struggled in his first couple years in North Carolina. Not many coaches from that hiring cycle have done well, and even fewer would have actually come here to coach. Ben Johnson wasn’t available, and neither was Brian Flores,
so I don’t want to hear their names again.
Honestly, no one was seriously voting for Kellen Moore to return. People wanted McCarthy, Moore, and Dan Quinn gone faster than a New York minute, yet now I’m seeing posts saying, “Let’s bring back Dan Quinn.” "Wish we had Moore"
Then there’s talk about hiring a veteran coach, but that’s not what the thread is about. Everyone here agreed, they didn’t want another retread. I'm simply speaking for the majority, that was what was being talked about at the time..
Now that I’ve moved past that point, it’s clear there’s no backtracking. Most people here wanted something new and different, and that’s exactly what we got. I still don’t think it’s a failure, and I don’t want the old crew back either. I’d rather risk failing with guys who are learning, because once they get through the learning curve, they’ll be more creative, better, more adaptable, and closer to a player’s level with less of an age gap.
It’s ironic when a newcomer like Ben Johnson arrives, though he was given everything possible in Chicago, so he doesn’t really count.
Hiring a raw, green coach like Liam Cohen, who’s even less experienced than Brian Schottenheimer, is fine. Yet, people here seem to ride the fence, thinking Jerry made a mistake bringing in fresh faces, even though the whole league does this or hires retreads, it’s about fifty-fifty.
I think the Cowboys should keep doing that, and I like the hire of Brian Schottenheimer. He hasn’t done anything drastically different from any other head coach, and he’s made mistakes, including yesterday, but that’s something you see across the league, constant and steady.
You realize we’re criticizing Brian Schottenheimer for making the same mistakes plenty of other coaches have made here and elsewhere. To be clear, I think he’s getting a raw deal because in his first year he was, in my opinion, very successful, running two-thirds of the team as both head coach and offensive coordinator.
He brought in a bunch of new offensive staff, and I think they’re doing pretty well. It’s not his fault the defense is so bad.
Really, we’re judging him because the roster and the defensive coaches are terrible. If it’s just about analytics, time management, and in-game decisions, I could point to seven or eight other coaches each week across all 32 teams who make the same mistakes and they’ll keep doing it. When you’re coaching in a live game with all the pressure and noise, you have to make split-second decisions and own them. I don’t think he’s directly responsible for any losses in terms of his head coaching duties.
You realize, and I know you might not have read this far, but you should—he’s working for Jerry Jones. The Jones family controls things, and while I wouldn’t say they micromanage anymore, being a head coach here puts you at a disadvantage. Anyone denying that or saying these other coaches wouldn’t face the same disadvantage if they came here or stayed, is wrong.
I saw this in 2020 and 2024 with Mike McCarthy. I think Brian Schottenheimer could be fine long term, don’t know for sure, but in his first season and now five games into the new one, I don’t believe he’s directly responsible for these losses. Most of the issues are on special teams and defense, along with injuries, which are hard to control.
He’s not new to football or to calling an offense, and just because he’s a new head coach doesn’t mean he lacks experience; he’s been around head coaches for a long time, including his father. I think he knows how to coach, and the peanut gallery shouldn’t act like we need to fire him for mistakes other seasoned coaches are making. Even teams coached by guys named Harbaugh haven’t won a game this year.
Yes he's made some mistakes in games I didn't like the back to back kick attempts with the long kicks Before halftime I thought those should have been punts and sure maybe at the end of the Ravens game They wish they had that back but again in a live game., This kind of stuff happens Look around the league just yesterday and last night you seen the same mistakes by better coaches with better players it happens all the time It is not that big a deal I know it hurts as a Cowboys fan you want everything changed all of a sudden five games in and I think we're overreacting..
