Cowboys ok if Lee/Hitchens ok

[Alexander]

he is critical when they missed on Nezocha-sp lost Rolando lose Lee Jaylon isnt ready

That is part of the point. He is overvalued because of the lack of overall talent, which was brought on by the other personnel misses.

 

[T-RO]

Lol Bowman and Hitch are not on the same level. Bowman will always be levels about Hitch

Bowman took a 1-year contract for $3 million. 31 teams could have paid him more but he wasn't worth more...not in the eyes of 32 GMs.

Bowman was never fast but he could overcome it with instincts and physicality. But now he's slowed down and became a liability in lots of plays.

Hitch will never be the player that Bowman was. Neither will Bowman ever be the player he once was.

 

[rpntex]

Yes, I get it.

Every team needs the "glue guys".

But when "glue guy" suddenly becomes a vital player through lack of alternatives, it becomes what it is, complete idiocy.

The fact we are sitting here and viewing Hitchens as some sort of savior is simply mindblowing to me.

And if the organization thinks the same way, well, it just makes me chuckle and fully understand why we have failed to win a handful of playoff games in over two decades.

I don't think anyone is calling Hitchens anything near a "savior"...simply solid and dependable. The truth is, had the Cowboys had anything halfway solid or dependable in the middle against both LA and GB, the odds of Dallas winning either (or both) of those games go up significantly. Gurley doesn't have near the impact in the Rams' passing game if Dallas has a decent cover guy playing at MLB.

 

[xwalker]

Yes, I get it.

Every team needs the "glue guys".

But when "glue guy" suddenly becomes a vital player through lack of alternatives, it becomes what it is, complete idiocy.

The fact we are sitting here and viewing Hitchens as some sort of savior is simply mindblowing to me.

And if the organization thinks the same way, well, it just makes me chuckle and fully understand why we have failed to win a handful of playoff games in over two decades.

Hitchens will get a starting job if the Cowboys don't re-sign him.

His only real issue is a lack of range. His run defense has been good and he is OK in short area zone coverage.

The Cowboys won Super Bowls with guys like Dixon Edwards playing LB and Hitchens talent is on the same tier as Edwards. You don't have to have multiple world beaters at LB on a 4-3 defense in the modern pass happy NFL but you can't have a one legged LB either.

 

[Nightman]

Bowman took a 1-year contract for $3 million. 31 teams could have paid him more but he wasn't worth more...not in the eyes of 32 GMs.

Bowman was never fast but he could overcome it with instincts and physicality. But now he's slowed down and became a liability in lots of plays.

Hitch will never be the player that Bowman was. Neither will Bowman ever be the player he once was.

No one got the chance.... Bowman took the first offer

I wanted him at first but he isn't a great fit here..... not when everyone is healthy

 

[Aven8]

That is part of the real issue.

Players like Anthony Hitchens are all over the NFL.

Good players that can make a solid six year career.

Yet somehow, our talent position is so awful right now, he is viewed as some vital cog.

He has never been so before, yet he is now, for reasons that defy logic and what he has actually been able to produce.

When you've watched 5 games of Jaylon Smith, we would all beg to have Bradie James, at his current age, back right now is why!

 

[DiResta]

which was brought on by the other personnel misses.

this is undeniable
but Hitchens is more than ok with a couple other pieces
the lack of elite safety roaming the middle will keep the defense from being as good as it could be
like Seattle level
they must get at least another good linebacker and very good safety
Eric Weddle was perfect
Byron was a rookie and could either learn or we would know if he couldnt playing with Weddle and seeing how he studies
but i dont think he wanted Dallas if i remember
Reuben Foster was one of those pieces
that set the defense back at least a year

 

[waving monkey]

I'm with you X. I'm 100 times more worried about the one tech spot than any other position. Price just doesn't cut it for me. He has size, but that's pretty much it. I really hope we address this spot. For years we've mishandled this area. When we were in 3-4 we used an undersized (IMO) Ratliff and then we couldn't let go of Heydon for whatever reason while Jernigan, McClain,and Harrisonfind their way onto an NFC East team.

Us it's the one Nelli opinion I find strange

 

[xwalker]

this is undeniable
but Hitchens is more than ok with a couple other pieces
the lack of elite safety roaming the middle will keep the defense from being as good as it could be
like Seattle level
they must get at least another good linebacker and very good safety
Eric Weddle was perfect
Byron was a rookie and could either learn or we would know if he couldnt playing with Weddle and seeing how he studies
but i dont think he wanted Dallas if i remember
Reuben Foster was one of those pieces
that set the defense back at least a year

Foster was boom or bust. The Cowboys have already gone that route with Gregory and Jaylon. Even if they didn't draft Taco, there are other players I preferred over Foster.

 

[mrmojo]

Hitchens will get a starting job if the Cowboys don't re-sign him.

His only real issue is a lack of range. His run defense has been good and he is OK in short area zone coverage.

The Cowboys won Super Bowls with guys like Dixon Edwards playing LB and Hitchens talent is on the same tier as Edwards. You don't have to have multiple world beaters at LB on a 4-3 defense in the modern pass happy NFL but you can't have a one legged LB either.

Dixon also had Ken Norton and Darren Smith playing along side him. Then Jerry decided Lbs were a dime a dozen and never invested long term in LBs....thus the decline of our SB defenses.

 

[Sydla]

Why do people talk about Hitchens as if he's some jag? Dude can play. He'd probably start on 20 teams TBH

He's an important player for a team to have. A solid back up type that can play all LB spots.

But this notion he's somehow solving our run game issues is probably a stretch.

 

[xwalker]

Dixon also had Ken Norton and Darren Smith playing along side him. Then Jerry decided Lbs were a dime a dozen and never invested long term in LBs....thus the decline of our SB defenses.

They drafted Jones in the 1st. Randall Godfrey was a very good player. Dat and Coakley were good.

I don't worry about LB much until they insist on playing Jaylon.

I'm convinced teams could use Safeties as 4-3 LBs for 80% of the snaps and still be OK. It's not as if a 320 pound OL really knows the difference in blocking a 240 pound LB as compared to a 220 pound Safety.

It wouldn't be a good idea when you don't have a staring 1-tech DT but in general I just don't think it would kill in the run defense as much as itvseems and the pass defense would obviously be much better.

 

[Section446]

"OK" doesn't win Super Bowl, I still remember when anything less than a Super Bowl was unacceptable for our fan base. My how the mighty have fallen...

 

[DiResta]

Foster was boom or bust. The Cowboys have already gone that route with Gregory and Jaylon. Even if they didn't draft Taco, there are other players I preferred over Foster.

i completely understand
the misses as i said in my book i wrote above have killed the Cowboys
they took risks on defense with character that just didnt pay off in some cases
though it did with Lewis grateful for that

its just a guy like Foster would be huge for the defense
hes exactly a crucial piece they need

but as i said i do understand
just the fan in me wanted him with the star

 

[DiResta]

"OK" doesn't win Super Bowl, I still remember when anything less than a Super Bowl was unacceptable for our fan base. My how the mighty have fallen...

dude the nfl is hard lol
since when were there a guarantee

 

[xwalker]

i completely understand
the misses as i said in my book i wrote above have killed the Cowboys
they took risks on defense with character that just didnt pay off in some cases
though it did with Lewis grateful for that

its just a guy like Foster would be huge for the defense
hes exactly a crucial piece they need

but as i said i do understand
just the fan in me wanted him with the star

There were questions about him as a player also.

Some think he might be Bruce Carter except not a freak athlete. Carter struggled with the complexities of NFL coverage schemes.

He is not the prototype size for a 1st round LB at 6-1, 228.

The jury is still out. He has 3 tackles this season.

If I wanted to draft a character issue player there it probably would have been Malik McDowell. He was a top 10 or better talent.

 

[IheartRomo]

He has gone from "serviceable" to now a top notch quality starter that makes everything alright.

Have you see his replacement.....YIKES! Even a JAG like Hitchens is an absolute sight for sore eyes in comparison.

 

[xwalker]

Have you see his replacement.....YIKES! Even a JAG like Hitchens is an absolute sight for sore eyes in comparison.

I really wonder why they didn't play Durant or even Wilson at MLB. Heck even 220 pound Safety Frazier would be a better option.

Hopefully Lee and Hitchens stay on the field the remainder of this season.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Whatever you think of Hitchens, he's a significant upgrade to what we're getting out of Smith right now.

Cant argue that point...........Smith is getting so abused out there somebody needs to call 911

 

[Idgit]

Cant argue that point...........Smith is getting so abused out there somebody needs to call 911

It's turrible.