Cowboys plan on franchise tagging Osa

[Carson]

Top 40 DT being paid top 5 money....... And that is why this front office is a punchline around the league for 30 years running.

If we don’t, somebody will. Not justifying we should. But somebody is

“Spotrac projects Odighizuwa to have a market value of $21 million per year, a comparable contract to players like New York Giants defensive tackle Dexter Lawrence and Green Bay Packers defensive tackle Kenny Clark.”

 

[KingCorcoran]

I'm just not sure the Cowboys care that much. Honestly I think this just benefits the Cowboys in that it gives them an excuse to not spend as much this offseason. When you look at it like an owner, and a cash hungry owner at that its not the end of the world if you have to tag him. Is it worse for the franchise? Absolutely. Jerry saves a ton of money that way though.

I think you’re correct. Considering tagging Osa, opening negotiations with Parsons, seeking to trade Diggs…no way to know if any of this is true, but it seems like the team has a lot of balls in the air. Perfect cover for not getting involved with FAs when legal tampering starts in just eight days.

 

[Coogiguy03]

If we don’t, somebody will. Not justifying we should. But somebody is

“Spotrac projects Odighizuwa to have a market value of $21 million per year, a comparable contract to players like New York Giants defensive tackle Dexter Lawrence and Green Bay Packers defensive tackle Kenny Clark.”

Osa is clearly better than dexter

 

[thunderpimp91]

Osa is clearly better than dexter

Gotta keep in mind that dexter signed two years ago. If you keep it in terms of % of the cap this is would be lower than Dexters deal. I think Ed Oliver’s contract is probably more comparable for OSA.

 

[Kingofholland]

Don't you usually make atleast 1 pro bowl to earn a franchise tag?

 

[Coogiguy03]

Gotta keep in mind that dexter signed two years ago. If you keep it in terms of % of the cap this is would be lower than Dexters deal. I think Ed Oliver’s contract is probably more comparable for OSA.

I was being sarcastic I hope by the time camp starts we have 4+ DT's, 2 that weren't here last year!

 

[Coogiguy03]

Don't you usually make atleast 1 pro bowl to earn a franchise tag?

In dallas all you have to do is join the country club and you're entitled to all access

 

[Coogiguy03]

Well, it does say right in the tweet "if a long-term deal is not reached by Tuesday". And the Cowboys might reach a deal and not have to tag him.

Remember, that close stuff was being reported on Thursday by Fish whom we don't trust.

I trust him more than others I think he's well connected better than a lot of so called media people who put out things and have no years of connections with the cowboys to gain ACCESS to credible sources within the organization

 

[Gambit]

I absolutely don’t mind bringing osa back.

What I do mind is that a team who does not participate in free agency just spent $25 on an above average DT.

We could have signed 3-4 starters for that

Just smells and reminds you of Tyrone Crawfords deal

We have 1 IDT on roster. I am not a fan of it either, but we have so many holes we can't create more and hope to be competitive.

I don't recall Jerry ever having trouble signing players, this is a Stephen problem. Agents know they can just run roughshod over him.

Who are the 3 starting IDL starters you're hoping we can sign with that?

 

[Kingofholland]

In dallas all you have to do is join the country club and you're entitled to all access

I can only hope I get the franchise tag next year

 

[thunderpimp91]

I was being sarcastic I hope by the time camp starts we have 4+ DT's, 2 that weren't here last year!

Oh I’m well aware of the sarcasm, even the most pro cowboy fan won’t take osa over Dexter lol.

I’m just saying contracts from 2 years ago shouldn’t be used as comps because they are the same money. When looking for comps look at contracts in comparison to that years cap number. Ed Oliver at $17m is probably the better comparison to OSA.

 

[Coogiguy03]

I can only hope I get the franchise tag next year

work hard, be in the best shape of your life

 

[Coogiguy03]

Oh I’m well aware of the sarcasm, even the most pro cowboy fan won’t take osa over Dexter lol.

I’m just saying contracts from 2 years ago shouldn’t be used as comps because they are the same money. When looking for comps look at contracts in comparison to that years cap number. Ed Oliver at $17m is probably the better comparison to OSA.

please forgive me my friend no disrespect intended!!

 

[Kingofholland]

work hard, be in the best shape of your life

I may be able to hit a 5.0 40, I'm ready to join the hot Boyz.

 

[thunderpimp91]

please forgive me my friend no disrespect intended!!

I didn’t take it negatively at all, no worries man!

 

[Chuck 54]

Wow….they didn’t say they were tagging him. They said they would Tag him IF they didn’t have a deal done by the Tuesday deadline.

1. That’s negotiation. You don’t let the guy talk to other teams. You tag him in order to continue and get the deal finalized. 20 million per year or 25 million tag. No real difference.
2. This tells me they are close on the deal. But, until the player actually signs the franchise tag, and most don’t really like it, the team can pull it back if negotiations go South.
3. Even if they tag him for real and he signs it, it’s one year! It’s only a few million more than they wanted to sign him for. It doesn’t stop the team from drafting 2 DTs and signing a free agent. But it gives them a known factor in a vet while the rookies prove themselves.
4. It’s a knew coaching staff, a new DC, a new scheme. Osa may very well thrive in it, and I’m sure the DC believes that or they wouldn’t even be trying to make a deal.

This is definitely an over reaction. This is a transition year, but coaches don’t want it to be a disaster.

 

[Coogiguy03]

I didn’t take it negatively at all, no worries man!

 

[Coogiguy03]

Wow….they didn’t say they were tagging him. They said they would Tag him IF they didn’t have a deal done by the Tuesday deadline.

1. That’s negotiation. You don’t let the guy talk to other teams. You tag him in order to continue and get the deal finalized. 20 million per year or 25 million tag. No real difference.
2. This tells me they are close on the deal. But, until the player actually signs the franchise tag, and most don’t really like it, the team can pull it back if negotiations go South.
3. Even if they tag him for real and he signs it, it’s one year! It’s only a few million more than they wanted to sign him for. It doesn’t stop the team from drafting 2 DTs and signing a free agent. But it gives them a known factor in a vet while the rookies prove themselves.
4. It’s a knew coaching staff, a new DC, a new scheme. Osa may very well thrive in it, and I’m sure the DC believes that or they wouldn’t even be trying to make a deal.

This is definitely an over reaction. This is a transition year, but coaches don’t want it to be a disaster.

3. We hope, but this is Dallas, you take care of one spot, and it's FIXED we don't need anymore depth!!!

 

[Risen Star]

The issue is no one is paying interior guys for sacks and TFL these days. Interior guys are simply not getting them at very high rates, I'm not even sure if a single DT reached 10 sacks this year. NFL.com has OSA 14th in all of defenders in total pressures, PFF has him 24th.
Average time to pressure in 2024
OSA - 3.02 seconds
Parsons - 2.74 seconds
Jalen Carter - 2.68 seconds
Milton Williams - 3.09 seconds
Quinnen Williams - 3.00 seconds

Average time to sack in 2024
OSA - 4.56 seconds
Parsons - 4.80 seconds
Jalen Carter - 4.85 seconds
Milton Williams - 4.94 seconds
Quinnen Williams - 4.60 seconds

You can go on and on forever, but all the data seems to indicate that OSA is nowhere near the elite group, but is right in with the next tier. Ed Oliver had some of the best pressure numbers among DTs this year and only had 3 sacks. He also never hit double digit sack numbers until after his rookie deal, similar situation with a guy like Javon Hargrave.....always had good analytic numbers but didn't show up on the stat sheet until he had his breakout year in Philly. There is simply some randomness around sacks and it takes a complete team effort.

OSA signing something in the low 20s is still about 30% lower than top pay at the position. Unless he is playing hardball for more I dont see the issue in bringing the guy back, no.

What the heck is he talking about? This is the thing with these stat geeks. They get seduced by these numbers that don't mean anything.

You know what does mean something? Actual production. Nobody reading this can claim he's a good run defender at 285 lbs. He's one of the reasons why the line of scrimmage moves in our direction at the snap of the ball on run downs.

So if he isn't defending the run then he damn sure should be a dynamite productive pass rusher to warrant a ridiculous 20-25 million a year salary.

3.5 sacks, 7 TFLs. That's what he's given you per season over his 4 year career. And not a natural upward progression either. He's been rather consistent. It is who he is.

That is mediocre at best pass rush production for a starting 3 tech. Combined with the aforementioned poor run defense with his undersized frame.

Seeing any value in handing that kind of player a franchise tag or even a long term deal that pays him anywhere near 20 million a year is insanity. You move on. You only pay that kind of money to actual productive players. Not PFF stat geek win rates and seconds to pressure but real plays being made.

 

[visionary]

Unless Graham falls to you at 12 it seems unlikely you get a better DT year 1 from the draft. If they are looking at some round 2/3 guys to take at DT the tag on OSA isn’t the worst idea. Keep osa for a year and let the young guy develop and be a rotational player. I hate tagging him for other reasons, but a plug and play starting 3T is a bad bet from the draft, even a good class of DTs.

Franchise tag is 25 million
Osa is absolutely not worth anything like that
Any sensible GM would move on but we are stuck with idiot and son