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This post is about the Dallas Cowboys and their RB decisions in the off-season.

I was just curious to see how well some the Cowboys possible options at RB in the off-season were performing.

The first thing to notice is that the Cowboys RBBC is 6th in the league in Rush Yards per Game. None of the starters in the top 5 teams were really options for the Cowboys to acquire unless you believe the AP rumors.

Other veteran options DeMarco Murray and Chris Johnson are on teams that rank below the Cowboys in Rush Yards per Game.

Note AP has 3 fumbles and Chris Johnson has 2. Randle had 1 and McFadden zero.

The RBs from the draft are listed at the bottom.

Gurley is the man. Most people knew this before he was drafted.
Gordon has a horrific 4 fumbles. His college fumble rate was bad also.
Yeldon is doing well but that's probably because of his Right Tackle.
Abdullah with 4 fumbles. His college fumble rate was the worst.

The Cowboys pick in the 3rd was #91 overall. The best performance of a player available after that pick is udfa Thomas Rawls. The Cowboys tried to sign Rawls but he picked Seattle's offer.

For this season up to this point the running game is not the problem. McFadden appears to be fine; although, we always have to worry about his health. Chris Johnson might have been a good option but AZ is 10th compared to Dallas at 6th in rushing. Not signing Murray is looking good right now. The biggest miss was not getting Rawls for both now and the future. A couple of hundred thousand guaranteed probably would have enticed him to sign.

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Cowboys Rank in rush yards per game:
Dallas 6th
AZ 10th
Philly 15th

Veteran RBs:
Att Yards Avg Fumbles
Darren McFadden 86 345 4.0 0
Joseph Randle 76 315 4.1 1
DeMarco Murray 88 207 3.5 0
Chris Johnson 141 676 4.8 2
Adrian Peterson 140 663 4.5 3

Top 6 teams in rush yards per game and their current starters:
1st Carolina Jonathan Stewart
2nd Seattle Marshawn Lynch
3rd St. Louis Todd Gurley
4th Tampa Bay Doug Martin
5th Minnesota Adrian Peterson
6th Dallas Darren McFadden
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RBs in the draft and their NFL team:
Todd Gurley    St. Louis Rams
Melvin Gordon    San Diego Chargers
T. J. Yeldon    Jacksonville Jaguars
Ameer Abdullah    Detroit Lions
Tevin Coleman    Atlanta Falcons
Duke Johnson    Cleveland Browns
David Johnson    Arizona Cardinals
Matt Jones    Washington Commanders
Jeremy Langford    Chicago Bears
Javorius Allen    Baltimore Ravens
Mike Davis    San Francisco 49ers
David Cobb    Tennessee Titans
Jay Ajayi    Miami Dolphins
Karlos Williams    Buffalo Bills
Cameron Artis-Payne    Carolina Panthers
Josh Robinson    Indianapolis Colts
Marcus Murphy    New Orleans Saints
Kenny Hilliard    Houston Texans
Thomas Rawls   Seattle Seahawks
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RBs in the draft:
Att Yards Avg Fumbles
1   10   Todd   Gurley   94   575   6.1   1
1   15   Melvin   Gordon   103   382   3.7   4
2   36   TJ   Yeldon   101   406   4   0
2   54   Ameer   Abdullah   63   225   3.6   4
3   73   Tevin   Coleman   41   180   4.4   1
3   77   Duke   Johnson   59   179   3   0
3   86   David   Johnson   25   109   4.4   2
3   95   Matt   Jones   63   249   4   2
4   106   Jeremy   Langford   27   80   3   2
4   125   Javorius   Allen   37   163   4.4   0
4   126   Mike   Davis   25   24   1   0
5   155   Karlos   Williams   42   226   5.4   0
5   174   Cameron   Artis-Payne   12   31   2.6   0
6   205   Josh   Robinson   17   39   2.3   1
udfa   udfa   Thomas   Rawls   69   376   5.4   0

5   138   David Cobb IR-DFR
5   149   Jay Ajayi IR-DFR
7   230   Marcus Murphy 0 0 0, (2 fumbles on PR)
7   235   Kenny Hilliard Practice Squad
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RBs in the draft (sorted by yards):
1   10   Todd   Gurley   94   575   6.1   1
2   36   TJ   Yeldon   101   406   4   0
1   15   Melvin   Gordon   103   382   3.7   4
udfa   udfa   Thomas   Rawls   69   376   5.4   0
3   95   Matt   Jones   63   249   4   2
5   155   Karlos   Williams   42   226   5.4   0
2   54   Ameer   Abdullah   63   225   3.6   4
3   73   Tevin   Coleman   41   180   4.4   1
3   77   Duke   Johnson   59   179   3   0
4   125   Javorius   Allen   37   163   4.4   0
3   86   David   Johnson   25   109   4.4   2
4   106   Jeremy   Langford   27   80   3   2
6   205   Josh   Robinson   17   39   2.3   1
5   174   Cameron   Artis-Payne   12   31   2.6   0
4   126   Mike   Davis   25   24   1   0
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RBs in the draft (sorted by average):
1   10   Todd   Gurley   94   575   6.1   1
udfa   udfa   Thomas   Rawls   69   376   5.4   0
5   155   Karlos   Williams   42   226   5.4   0
3   73   Tevin   Coleman   41   180   4.4   1
4   125   Javorius   Allen   37   163   4.4   0
3   86   David   Johnson   25   109   4.4   2
2   36   TJ   Yeldon   101   406   4   0
3   95   Matt   Jones   63   249   4   2
1   15   Melvin   Gordon   103   382   3.7   4
2   54   Ameer   Abdullah   63   225   3.6   4
3   77   Duke   Johnson   59   179   3   0
4   106   Jeremy   Langford   27   80   3   2
5   174   Cameron   Artis-Payne   12   31   2.6   0
6   205   Josh   Robinson   17   39   2.3   1
4   126   Mike   Davis   25   24   1   0
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RBs in the draft (sorted by fumbles):
1   15   Melvin   Gordon   103   382   3.7   4
2   54   Ameer   Abdullah   63   225   3.6   4
3   86   David   Johnson   25   109   4.4   2
3   95   Matt   Jones   63   249   4   2
4   106   Jeremy   Langford   27   80   3   2
1   10   Todd   Gurley   94   575   6.1   1
3   73   Tevin   Coleman   41   180   4.4   1
6   205   Josh   Robinson   17   39   2.3   1
udfa   udfa   Thomas   Rawls   69   376   5.4   0
5   155   Karlos   Williams   42   226   5.4   0
4   125   Javorius   Allen   37   163   4.4   0
2   36   TJ   Yeldon   101   406   4   0
3   77   Duke   Johnson   59   179   3   0
5   174   Cameron   Artis-Payne   12   31   2.6   0
4   126   Mike   Davis   25   24   1   0
 

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Buck Allen was the guy I wanted in the third, but DMC would still have been better this year.
 

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Yeldon didn't get the love he deserved. For me, it'll be Byron Jones vs. TJ to see how their careers pan out. Complaining about Gurley or Gordon is like complaining we didn't get OBJ, he wasn't an option.
 

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In before this gets moved to the Roster Zone or one of the other sub zones.

So our running game went from being the strength of our team to being "not the problem".

Championship!!!

Ranking 6th would still make it a strength of the team, wouldn't it?
 

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A 6th place ranking is quite impressive to me considering a) we haven't been sitting on big leads at all and b) the QBs pressed into service have had trouble sustaining drives.
 

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Ranking 6th would still make it a strength of the team, wouldn't it?

Not dominant like it was last season. They've only really won it well throughout the course of an entire game one time this season. That's not good enough when you're playing with a backup quarterback.
 

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Yeldon didn't get the love he deserved. For me, it'll be Byron Jones vs. TJ to see how their careers pan out. Complaining about Gurley or Gordon is like complaining we didn't get OBJ, he wasn't an option.

I agree that Yeldon looked like a safe pick. Safer than Gordon, IMO; however, it is generally much more difficult to find a quality CB/Safety than to find a quality RB.
 

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Great post X! The running game and defense have kept us close in games. This all points to one area that should be solved in a couple of weeks. Because we struggle with passing we're in a position to have to score on defense or ST to turn the momentum of the game. With Romo at the helm we become effective in run, pass and defense which will make this team tough to beat.
 

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Not dominant like it was last season. They've only really won it well throughout the course of an entire game one time this season. That's not good enough when you're playing with a backup quarterback.

It's really difficult to be a dominant running team when defenses don't respect the passing game. The fact that they're 6th when the QBs have been Weed and Cassel is impressive, IMO.
 

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In before this gets moved to the Roster Zone or one of the other sub zones.

So our running game went from being the strength of our team to being "not the problem".

Championship!!!

The strength of the team was always Romo.
Silly people just didn't realize that.

Romo, OL, Dez, Witten THEN Murray.
That's why Murray didn't take all those yards with him to Philly.
I asurre you Philly would LOVE to give his money to Romo and our OL and/or Dez and./or Witten.
 

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This post is about the Dallas Cowboys and their RB decisions in the off-season.

I was just curious to see how well some the Cowboys possible options at RB in the off-season were performing.

The first thing to notice is that the Cowboys RBBC is 6th in the league in Rush Yards per Game. None of the starters in the top 5 teams were really options for the Cowboys to acquire unless you believe the AP rumors.

Other veteran options DeMarco Murray and Chris Johnson are on teams that rank below the Cowboys in Rush Yards per Game.

Note AP has 3 fumbles and Chris Johnson has 2. Randle had 1 and McFadden zero.

The RBs from the draft are listed at the bottom.

Gurley is the man. Most people knew this before he was drafted.
Gordon has a horrific 4 fumbles. His college fumble rate was bad also.
Yeldon is doing well but that's probably because of his Right Tackle.
Abdullah with 4 fumbles. His college fumble rate was the worst.

The Cowboys pick in the 3rd was #91 overall. The best performance of a player available after that pick is udfa Thomas Rawls. The Cowboys tried to sign Rawls but he picked Seattle's offer.

For this season up to this point the running game is not the problem. McFadden appears to be fine; although, we always have to worry about his health. Chris Johnson might have been a good option but AZ is 10th compared to Dallas at 6th in rushing. Not signing Murray is looking good right now. The biggest miss was not getting Rawls for both now and the future. A couple of hundred thousand guaranteed probably would have enticed him to sign.

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Cowboys Rank in rush yards per game:
Dallas 6th
AZ 10th
Philly 15th

Veteran RBs:
Att Yards Avg Fumbles
Darren McFadden 86 345 4.0 0
Joseph Randle 76 315 4.1 1
DeMarco Murray 88 207 3.5 0
Chris Johnson 141 676 4.8 2
Adrian Peterson 140 663 4.5 3

Top 6 teams in rush yards per game and their current starters:
1st Carolina Jonathan Stewart
2nd Seattle Marshawn Lynch
3rd St. Louis Todd Gurley
4th Tampa Bay Doug Martin
5th Minnesota Adrian Peterson
6th Dallas Darren McFadden
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RBs in the draft and their NFL team:
Todd Gurley    St. Louis Rams
Melvin Gordon    San Diego Chargers
T. J. Yeldon    Jacksonville Jaguars
Ameer Abdullah    Detroit Lions
Tevin Coleman    Atlanta Falcons
Duke Johnson    Cleveland Browns
David Johnson    Arizona Cardinals
Matt Jones    Washington Commanders
Jeremy Langford    Chicago Bears
Javorius Allen    Baltimore Ravens
Mike Davis    San Francisco 49ers
David Cobb    Tennessee Titans
Jay Ajayi    Miami Dolphins
Karlos Williams    Buffalo Bills
Cameron Artis-Payne    Carolina Panthers
Josh Robinson    Indianapolis Colts
Marcus Murphy    New Orleans Saints
Kenny Hilliard    Houston Texans
Thomas Rawls   Seattle Seahawks
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RBs in the draft:
Att Yards Avg Fumbles
1   10   Todd   Gurley   94   575   6.1   1
1   15   Melvin   Gordon   103   382   3.7   4
2   36   TJ   Yeldon   101   406   4   0
2   54   Ameer   Abdullah   63   225   3.6   4
3   73   Tevin   Coleman   41   180   4.4   1
3   77   Duke   Johnson   59   179   3   0
3   86   David   Johnson   25   109   4.4   2
3   95   Matt   Jones   63   249   4   2
4   106   Jeremy   Langford   27   80   3   2
4   125   Javorius   Allen   37   163   4.4   0
4   126   Mike   Davis   25   24   1   0
5   155   Karlos   Williams   42   226   5.4   0
5   174   Cameron   Artis-Payne   12   31   2.6   0
6   205   Josh   Robinson   17   39   2.3   1
udfa   udfa   Thomas   Rawls   69   376   5.4   0

5   138   David Cobb IR-DFR
5   149   Jay Ajayi IR-DFR
7   230   Marcus Murphy 0 0 0, (2 fumbles on PR)
7   235   Kenny Hilliard Practice Squad
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RBs in the draft (sorted by yards):
1   10   Todd   Gurley   94   575   6.1   1
2   36   TJ   Yeldon   101   406   4   0
1   15   Melvin   Gordon   103   382   3.7   4
udfa   udfa   Thomas   Rawls   69   376   5.4   0
3   95   Matt   Jones   63   249   4   2
5   155   Karlos   Williams   42   226   5.4   0
2   54   Ameer   Abdullah   63   225   3.6   4
3   73   Tevin   Coleman   41   180   4.4   1
3   77   Duke   Johnson   59   179   3   0
4   125   Javorius   Allen   37   163   4.4   0
3   86   David   Johnson   25   109   4.4   2
4   106   Jeremy   Langford   27   80   3   2
6   205   Josh   Robinson   17   39   2.3   1
5   174   Cameron   Artis-Payne   12   31   2.6   0
4   126   Mike   Davis   25   24   1   0
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RBs in the draft (sorted by average):
1   10   Todd   Gurley   94   575   6.1   1
udfa   udfa   Thomas   Rawls   69   376   5.4   0
5   155   Karlos   Williams   42   226   5.4   0
3   73   Tevin   Coleman   41   180   4.4   1
4   125   Javorius   Allen   37   163   4.4   0
3   86   David   Johnson   25   109   4.4   2
2   36   TJ   Yeldon   101   406   4   0
3   95   Matt   Jones   63   249   4   2
1   15   Melvin   Gordon   103   382   3.7   4
2   54   Ameer   Abdullah   63   225   3.6   4
3   77   Duke   Johnson   59   179   3   0
4   106   Jeremy   Langford   27   80   3   2
5   174   Cameron   Artis-Payne   12   31   2.6   0
6   205   Josh   Robinson   17   39   2.3   1
4   126   Mike   Davis   25   24   1   0
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RBs in the draft (sorted by fumbles):
1   15   Melvin   Gordon   103   382   3.7   4
2   54   Ameer   Abdullah   63   225   3.6   4
3   86   David   Johnson   25   109   4.4   2
3   95   Matt   Jones   63   249   4   2
4   106   Jeremy   Langford   27   80   3   2
1   10   Todd   Gurley   94   575   6.1   1
3   73   Tevin   Coleman   41   180   4.4   1
6   205   Josh   Robinson   17   39   2.3   1
udfa   udfa   Thomas   Rawls   69   376   5.4   0
5   155   Karlos   Williams   42   226   5.4   0
4   125   Javorius   Allen   37   163   4.4   0
2   36   TJ   Yeldon   101   406   4   0
3   77   Duke   Johnson   59   179   3   0
5   174   Cameron   Artis-Payne   12   31   2.6   0
4   126   Mike   Davis   25   24   1   0

Had to find a way to being parnell into a thread eh? Lol
 

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I agree that Yeldon looked like a safe pick. Safer than Gordon, IMO; however, it is generally much more difficult to find a quality CB/Safety than to find a quality RB.

I had Yeldon as the 2nd RB in this draft. I thought he was the most like Murray.
I would have been happy with him in R3 but the reality is it is much harder to find a Rt then a RB and if Chaz Green replaces Doug Free in another one to two years with little to no drop off it was a VERY smart draft pick.
 

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they are 6th in rushing which Is okay but they are 29th in scoring offense and tony has played two games and still holds the lead for td passes teams will let them run all day if the y pass the ball and score it don't matter
 

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This post is about the Dallas Cowboys and their RB decisions in the off-season.

I was just curious to see how well some the Cowboys possible options at RB in the off-season were performing.

The first thing to notice is that the Cowboys RBBC is 6th in the league in Rush Yards per Game. None of the starters in the top 5 teams were really options for the Cowboys to acquire unless you believe the AP rumors.

Other veteran options DeMarco Murray and Chris Johnson are on teams that rank below the Cowboys in Rush Yards per Game.

Note AP has 3 fumbles and Chris Johnson has 2. Randle had 1 and McFadden zero.

The RBs from the draft are listed at the bottom.

Gurley is the man. Most people knew this before he was drafted.
Gordon has a horrific 4 fumbles. His college fumble rate was bad also.
Yeldon is doing well but that's probably because of his Right Tackle.
Abdullah with 4 fumbles. His college fumble rate was the worst.

The Cowboys pick in the 3rd was #91 overall. The best performance of a player available after that pick is udfa Thomas Rawls. The Cowboys tried to sign Rawls but he picked Seattle's offer.

For this season up to this point the running game is not the problem. McFadden appears to be fine; although, we always have to worry about his health. Chris Johnson might have been a good option but AZ is 10th compared to Dallas at 6th in rushing. Not signing Murray is looking good right now. The biggest miss was not getting Rawls for both now and the future. A couple of hundred thousand guaranteed probably would have enticed him to sign.

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Cowboys Rank in rush yards per game:
Dallas 6th
AZ 10th
Philly 15th

Veteran RBs:
Att Yards Avg Fumbles
Darren McFadden 86 345 4.0 0
Joseph Randle 76 315 4.1 1
DeMarco Murray 88 207 3.5 0
Chris Johnson 141 676 4.8 2
Adrian Peterson 140 663 4.5 3

Top 6 teams in rush yards per game and their current starters:
1st Carolina Jonathan Stewart
2nd Seattle Marshawn Lynch
3rd St. Louis Todd Gurley
4th Tampa Bay Doug Martin
5th Minnesota Adrian Peterson
6th Dallas Darren McFadden
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RBs in the draft and their NFL team:
Todd Gurley    St. Louis Rams
Melvin Gordon    San Diego Chargers
T. J. Yeldon    Jacksonville Jaguars
Ameer Abdullah    Detroit Lions
Tevin Coleman    Atlanta Falcons
Duke Johnson    Cleveland Browns
David Johnson    Arizona Cardinals
Matt Jones    Washington Commanders
Jeremy Langford    Chicago Bears
Javorius Allen    Baltimore Ravens
Mike Davis    San Francisco 49ers
David Cobb    Tennessee Titans
Jay Ajayi    Miami Dolphins
Karlos Williams    Buffalo Bills
Cameron Artis-Payne    Carolina Panthers
Josh Robinson    Indianapolis Colts
Marcus Murphy    New Orleans Saints
Kenny Hilliard    Houston Texans
Thomas Rawls   Seattle Seahawks
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RBs in the draft:
Att Yards Avg Fumbles
1   10   Todd   Gurley   94   575   6.1   1
1   15   Melvin   Gordon   103   382   3.7   4
2   36   TJ   Yeldon   101   406   4   0
2   54   Ameer   Abdullah   63   225   3.6   4
3   73   Tevin   Coleman   41   180   4.4   1
3   77   Duke   Johnson   59   179   3   0
3   86   David   Johnson   25   109   4.4   2
3   95   Matt   Jones   63   249   4   2
4   106   Jeremy   Langford   27   80   3   2
4   125   Javorius   Allen   37   163   4.4   0
4   126   Mike   Davis   25   24   1   0
5   155   Karlos   Williams   42   226   5.4   0
5   174   Cameron   Artis-Payne   12   31   2.6   0
6   205   Josh   Robinson   17   39   2.3   1
udfa   udfa   Thomas   Rawls   69   376   5.4   0

5   138   David Cobb IR-DFR
5   149   Jay Ajayi IR-DFR
7   230   Marcus Murphy 0 0 0, (2 fumbles on PR)
7   235   Kenny Hilliard Practice Squad
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RBs in the draft (sorted by yards):
1   10   Todd   Gurley   94   575   6.1   1
2   36   TJ   Yeldon   101   406   4   0
1   15   Melvin   Gordon   103   382   3.7   4
udfa   udfa   Thomas   Rawls   69   376   5.4   0
3   95   Matt   Jones   63   249   4   2
5   155   Karlos   Williams   42   226   5.4   0
2   54   Ameer   Abdullah   63   225   3.6   4
3   73   Tevin   Coleman   41   180   4.4   1
3   77   Duke   Johnson   59   179   3   0
4   125   Javorius   Allen   37   163   4.4   0
3   86   David   Johnson   25   109   4.4   2
4   106   Jeremy   Langford   27   80   3   2
6   205   Josh   Robinson   17   39   2.3   1
5   174   Cameron   Artis-Payne   12   31   2.6   0
4   126   Mike   Davis   25   24   1   0
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RBs in the draft (sorted by average):
1   10   Todd   Gurley   94   575   6.1   1
udfa   udfa   Thomas   Rawls   69   376   5.4   0
5   155   Karlos   Williams   42   226   5.4   0
3   73   Tevin   Coleman   41   180   4.4   1
4   125   Javorius   Allen   37   163   4.4   0
3   86   David   Johnson   25   109   4.4   2
2   36   TJ   Yeldon   101   406   4   0
3   95   Matt   Jones   63   249   4   2
1   15   Melvin   Gordon   103   382   3.7   4
2   54   Ameer   Abdullah   63   225   3.6   4
3   77   Duke   Johnson   59   179   3   0
4   106   Jeremy   Langford   27   80   3   2
5   174   Cameron   Artis-Payne   12   31   2.6   0
6   205   Josh   Robinson   17   39   2.3   1
4   126   Mike   Davis   25   24   1   0
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RBs in the draft (sorted by fumbles):
1   15   Melvin   Gordon   103   382   3.7   4
2   54   Ameer   Abdullah   63   225   3.6   4
3   86   David   Johnson   25   109   4.4   2
3   95   Matt   Jones   63   249   4   2
4   106   Jeremy   Langford   27   80   3   2
1   10   Todd   Gurley   94   575   6.1   1
3   73   Tevin   Coleman   41   180   4.4   1
6   205   Josh   Robinson   17   39   2.3   1
udfa   udfa   Thomas   Rawls   69   376   5.4   0
5   155   Karlos   Williams   42   226   5.4   0
4   125   Javorius   Allen   37   163   4.4   0
2   36   TJ   Yeldon   101   406   4   0
3   77   Duke   Johnson   59   179   3   0
5   174   Cameron   Artis-Payne   12   31   2.6   0
4   126   Mike   Davis   25   24   1   0
Should have gotten Rawls over Michael, no question. We missed on him as an UFA and we traded for the wrong RB. Two strikes.
 

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Had to find a way to being parnell into a thread eh? Lol

Parnell, ironically, is exactly why you draft OT in R3.
Not so much because he is gone but because he was expensive.
The OL MUST find cheap rookie pieces going forward.
They did that with La'el Collins and Chaz Green is another attempt to do so but at RT.
You can't pay all these OL what they are actually worth so must balance some real bargains in.
Frederick and Martin are arguably the best players in football at their positions.

The top 10 payrolls by just RB cap hits are more than 20 games under .500.
The highest 3 are Minny, Chicago and Philly. Again detailing what an outier AD is.
Amongst the lowest payroll RB teams comes Denver and Atlanta (and Dallas).
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/running-back/
 

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Should have gotten Rawls over Michael, no question. We missed on him as an UFA and we traded for the wrong RB. Two strikes.

Seattle wasn't trading Rawls.
But don't let the obvious get in the way of a good narrative.
 

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The strength of the team was always Romo.
Silly people just didn't realize that.

Romo, OL, Dez, Witten THEN Murray.
That's why Murray didn't take all those yards with him to Philly.
I asurre you Philly would LOVE to give his money to Romo and our OL and/or Dez and./or Witten.

No, Murray is a misfit with the read option. It's been said a million times and their OL isn't exactly great.
 
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