Cowboys Regrets

[aikemirv]

Not this year but same logic could have been cavalier with Tony Romo in 2003/04/05. Or Brady in 2000 when he was 4th string.

What is Moore's future?

I feel pretty good that Brad Johnson has none.

I see Brads future as possibly coming in a game or 2 this year and winning it for us. I don't see that future at all for Moore. If Romo is the answer like we said I like having a vet option to win a game or 2, if he is not were drafting a QB next year anyway. We definitly won't be hoping Moore turns out will we?

 

[DallasDomination]

why did we lose Moore again?..Kid had some nice throws. His balls were accurate and had a nice spiral. And we all know how cool spirals look

 

[theebs]

Springsteens new song sucks (and I'm a fan).

Anyway, carry on.

your crazy, song is great, he is plugged in and his guitar sounded friggen great.

I cant wait to hear the rest of the album and see him live, all of his music is even better live...

 

[dooomsday]

I was happy to see Moore produce a little.

But the truth is there isnt a guy we cut with less chance to help the team the least chance of being a player.

We'll be fine.

 

[jazzcat22]

I hope I am wrong, but I feel the Cowboys mad a HUGE mistake in letting these guys go:

Abram Elam
Matt Moore
Remi Ayodele

I felt Elam would have been able to step in and help out our ailing cornerback position with his natural athletic ability even though he is a safety. The guy was a playmaker.

Remi impressed me as guy who liked to mix it up on evey play. He semed to always play hard unlike a veteran defensive player who coach Phillips kept in the game till the fourth quarter.

And last but not least, Matt. Believe or not when I predicted last year that Romo would be our starting Qbt halfway through the season, I thought he was close to perfect. But now his footwork bothers me AND I actually saw Moore as being BETTER than what Tony was in his Rookie season with the Cowboys.

Moore seems to have grasped the mechanics of the NFL caliber game and he looked like a leader in that huddle.

Good luck to these three guys BUT more importantly GOOD LUCK to the Cowboys!

We're gonna need alot of it I'm afraid.

I don't think it really matters. I liked Moore, and was hoping they would keep him. And try to get him on the PS. But it wasn't like he was going to contribute this year. They can pick up another QB next year to develop.

Elam & Ayodele wasn't exactly the stars of TC. There are just as many players out there like them to pick up.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

The only player I hated to see go was Elam. I think he is just as good, if not better, at special teams as Davis, and has far better as a safety than Davis. Davis is what he is, a special teams player, and a liability at safety.

 

[dooomsday]

The only player I hated to see go was Elam. I think he is just as good, if not better, at special teams as Davis, and has far better as a safety than Davis. Davis is what he is, a special teams player, and a liability at safety.

I like Elam too, on ST. When did he show to be a better S than Davis?

I think Killer is better in all areas. Maybe not quite as quick. But, can back up both S positions and hits like a train.

 

[Stautner]

your crying over the clip board carrying 3rd QB

we're not going to lose any games because of this

David

Your thinking is short sighted.

No one thinks Moore is ready to contribute immediately, but consider this .......

4 years ago if we had let go the clipboard carrying 3rd QB Tony Romo would not be here and we may still be in sad shape at the position.

 

[dbair1967]

Your thinking is short sighted.

No one thinks Moore is ready to contribute immediately, but consider this .......

4 years ago if we had let go the clipboard carrying 3rd QB Tony Romo would not be here and we may still be in sad shape at the position.

and 4yrs ago we didnt have a young QB that seemed like a clear answer to our QB future either

we had the Q-Bong, and we saw how that worked out

David

 

[Stautner]

and 4yrs ago we didnt have a young QB that seemed like a clear answer to our QB future either

we had the Q-Bong, and we saw how that worked out

David

I don't get your point?

Are you saying we should ignore players that have the potential to develop into quality players over time simply because we already have a quality player ahead of them?

That also is very short sighted.

After all, why would a team bank on a young player NEVER getting hurt, and therefore refusing to develop a backup?

Moore may or may not have the potential to develop into a quality player or at least a quality backup, but if you feel that he does you don't just cut him because we already have Romo ..... we develop him in case Romo gets hurt or proves not to be the player we think over the long haul.

 

[dbair1967]

I don't get your point?

Are you saying we should ignore players that have the potential to develop into quality players over time simply because we already have a quality player ahead of them?

That also is very short sighted.

After all, why would a team bank on a young player NEVER getting hurt, and therefore refusing to develop a backup?

Moore may or may not have the potential to develop into a quality player or at least a quality backup, but if you feel that he does you don't just cut him because we already have Romo ..... we develop him in case Romo gets hurt or proves not to be the player we think over the long haul.

remind me again how many teams are going with just two QB's now please

you people are crying over nothing

David

 

[Stautner]

remind me again how many teams are going with just two QB's now please

you people are crying over nothing

David

A lot of teams go with 2 QB's - that's not the point.

And we aren't crying - personally I very well my have attempted to slide him to the practice squad as well if I were making the decisions.

But that doesn't mean that we can't have a sense that this was one that was tough to let go and potntially a missed opportunity.



I suppose your position is that teams ALWAYS make the right choices ....... ?

 

[dbair1967]

A lot of teams go with 2 QB's - that's not the point.

And we aren't crying - personally I very well my have attempted to slide him to the practice squad as well if I were making the decisions.

But that doesn't mean that we can't have a sense that this was one that was tough to let go and potntially a missed opportunity.



I suppose your position is that teams ALWAYS make the right choices ....... ?

he wasnt the 2nd coming of Aikman or Elway...they made a decision that they needed another position player more than a developmental, clip board carrying 3rd QB that was a crap shoot to develop anyway

I can live with it...the draft is full of Matt Moore type players every yr

David

 

[Stautner]

he wasnt the 2nd coming of Aikman or Elway...they made a decision that they needed another position player more than a developmental, clip board carrying 3rd QB that was a crap shoot to develop anyway

I can live with it...the draft is full of Matt Moore type players every yr

David

I agree with some of that ...... there is at least logic involved, whereas the notion that we shouldn't keep a guy with potential simply because we already had another young QB just failed in the logic department completly.

He likely would never become a stud - I admitted that all along, and as I said, I don't blame the team for having to make the decision that they did.

This is just one that I didn't feel good about. That doesn't carry any weight at this point, and I recognize that the odds are that in a few years we will look back and say it was the right choice.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

I like Elam too, on ST. When did he show to be a better S than Davis?

I think Killer is better in all areas. Maybe not quite as quick. But, can back up both S positions and hits like a train.

The better question is when did Davis ever show he could even play safety?

Not once did he make a play...........a good one that is. He made numerous terrible ones.

My point is that Elam had better upside than Daivs. Davis is a ST player, with not chance of ever being anything as a Safety. Elam had a chance........

 

[zrinkill]

The better question is when did Davis ever show he could even play safety?
Not once did he make a play...........a good one that is. He made numerous terrible ones.

I do not agree with this at all ...... Davis makes many plays in the running game and the short passing game.

His problem is in coverage ..... but too say he never makes a play is just silly.

 

[Cbz40]

I don't get your point?

Are you saying we should ignore players that have the potential to develop into quality players over time simply because we already have a quality player ahead of them?

That also is very short sighted.

After all, why would a team bank on a young player NEVER getting hurt, and therefore refusing to develop a backup?

Moore may or may not have the potential to develop into a quality player or at least a quality backup, but if you feel that he does you don't just cut him because we already have Romo ..... we develop him in case Romo gets hurt or proves not to be the player we think over the long haul.

I concur with your post in its entirety.... Most of the posters taking exception are those that were the biggest whiners about the QB's that followed Troy.

At least we have Bartel on the PS....as long as we have a 3rd QB to groom I'm happy.

 

[jobberone]

Bartel is on the PS because moore was the better QB at least right now the whole point is regret and I agree esp with moore and elam but there are hard choices every year this was the first year when I think we had to let a couple of potential future starters go` we let a couple of journeyman players go last year` but a couple of these guys like glymph and moore and elam looked like future starters to me

 

[dooomsday]

The better question is when did Davis ever show he could even play safety?

Not once did he make a play...........a good one that is. He made numerous terrible ones.

My point is that Elam had better upside than Daivs. Davis is a ST player, with not chance of ever being anything as a Safety. Elam had a chance........

I am not going to defend Killers pass covering skills. But you said Elam was much better at S which is really questionable.

Killer is a valuable football player on this team. I really dont think he is a FS anyway, rahter a SS. We had an opening and he did his best. But I have no problem with him in dime packages or backing up either S.

Elam could have done the job too. We just dont need both. With Watkins and Rookie Brown thats enough back up Ss. I am fine with the move. IMO,Killers a bit better.

 

[Stautner]

I am not going to defend Killers pass covering skills. But you said Elam was much better at S which is really questionable.

Killer is a valuable football player on this team. I really dont think he is a FS anyway, rahter a SS. We had an opening and he did his best. But I have no problem with him in dime packages or backing up either S.

Elam could have done the job too. We just dont need both. With Watkins and Rookie Brown thats enough back up Ss. I am fine with the move. IMO,Killers a bit better.

I liked Elam a lot and thought he showed a lot of potential. The problem is that most of the potential he showed was in pre season, so we never got a feel for him as a regular season player agains starting NFL players. It's just not fair or reasonable to make judgements about how he fit when we just don't have much to judge by.