Cowboys release TO *Merged*

[kbman]

Thank you for pointing this out. Like I said, If before, if anyone think this move will make us immediately better, or that it will help in the short term, they will be in for rude awakening when the season starts next year. This team has more holes in it right now from the top down than swiss cheese, and most of the issues were not TO's fault.

True, today we are not as good as we were. I guess an average team with soft coaches but a happy locker room. Who will they blame now? Not little Tony, he can do no wrong and sure has the attitude of a winner. Not! Cut TO and keep the soft coaches

 

[BLEU3ASY]

Terrible move Jerry! all of you T.O. haters got your wish. Dallas is approaching 20 mil in dead money. Don't get me wrong I love Dallas more than any one player, but a dumb move is a dumb move. This will come back to haunt Dallas, just watch...

 

[Dave_in-NC]

True, today we are not as good as we were. I guess an average team with soft coaches but a happy locker room. Who will they blame now? Not little Tony, he can do no wrong and sure has the attitude of a winner. Not! Cut TO and keep the soft coaches

Yup, should have cut Romo cleaned out the coaching staff.
owens could have done all those jobs easily. Then he could have said he was the problem............BWAAAAAAAA

 

[Hoofbite]

Thank you for pointing this out. Like I said, If before, if anyone think this move will make us immediately better, or that it will help in the short term, they will be in for rude awakening when the season starts next year. This team has more holes in it right now from the top down than swiss cheese, and most of the issues were not TO's fault.

How much better did TO really even make the team?

Same playoff problems, same underachieving.

Will the team be better off, only time will tell.

Is the team crippled, hell no.

 

[Alexander]

Things just got interesting.

 

[kbman]

Yup, should have cut Romo cleaned out the coaching staff.
owens could have done all those jobs easily. Then he could have said he was the problem............BWAAAAAAAA

Well if he would have fired Wade brought a decent HC in and cut TO it would have made more sense to me. BWAAAAAAAA? What the hell is that? Are you 6 years old dude? Everyone does not agree with you. Deal with it.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Well if he would have fired Wade brought a decent HC in and cut TO it would have made more sense to me. BWAAAAAAAA? What the hell is that? Are you 6 years old dude? Everyone does not agree with you. Deal with it.

That would have made more sense to almost every one. The problem is Jones and sense are like oil and water. Once in a while a drop sinks in.

No I'm not six, just giddy like a six year old on xmass day today.

 

[bysbox1]

I go to bed early ONE time, and wake up to see a major major move.

Obviously havent had a chance to read everything, but I knew the ******** people would be out in full-force blaming that "idiot Garrett" and crying that "the sky is falling the sky is falling!!!!"..."we're doomed!!!!!"

As I mentioned in that Jim Reeves thread, anybody that honestly believes Jason Garrett is the sole, or even the MAIN reason Terrell Owens got cut they are being really naive. Dan Reeves even said it publicly weeks ago, that there were clearly people on both sides of this (plural). And ALOT of strong sentiment to release him from others had to be there for Jerry to actually go through with this.

This is the main reason Roy Williams was brought here at the trade deadline, to be prepared for the day that Terrell Owens would no longer be here.

This team will be fine, sure we lose a good player, his 2007 season was fantastic. Last yr he clearly was not the same player and his skills are diminishing. At BEST we were gonna get one more decent yr out of him. But by subtracting him we gain more versatility in the offense, we'll never see a game again where one guy gets 20 passes thrown his way in spite of being double or triple covered. They are going to run the ball more, Wade said so the day after the season. They have Roy Williams and Jason Witten, not many teams can claim to have two guys like that. I really like Miles Austin and feel he could be quite a #2 guy. Crayton is a good 2/3 guy. I would guess we'll see a vet brought in at some point, maybe not till right before the season though because they may want to see how things work with what they have. And what we have is quite good.

I was never in favor of TO coming here, like many I hated the guy. I did find myself liking him though because of his effort and playmaking. But it became obvious this yr that he was a detriment to the "TEAM" and releasing him was the right move. I dont believe everything was his fault, but wherever he is he will always be a lightning rod for this stuff. A big weight has been lifted off alot of people's shoulders today.

No one has really said this is a Garrett issue. But you can't deny that he's part of the dynamic since he's the offensive coordinator.

And what we have for wide receivers is not good. Roy Williams has proved nothing . . . there's a reason Detroit let him go so quick (besides the fact that we overpaid for a guy that was going to be cut in the offseason anyway). Crayton is just a guy (who also does not show up for big games), and people are gushing for Austin like he's the next Jerry Rice not realizing this guy has 18 career NFL catches. That is not a solid receiving core at all.

No TO has made our offense that much easier to shutdown, and since Garrett is deficient at game planning (not knocking him, just pointing out what we saw last year). This is going to make for a rough season next year.

I would hate to work a job where I tell people (including my boss) that my team is screwing up and doing their job and we can do it better and improve production, he tells me (and the company does) my team is screwing up and needs to do better, and I get fired basically for speaking my mind for wanting to help my team win. If that's the case I don't want the job anyway, and I hope that's TO's attitude about it. Ths mess goes way beyond TO, and until we fix all the other underlying problems this team will never be the team it could be.

 

[bysbox1]

How much better did TO really even make the team?

Same playoff problems, same underachieving.

Will the team be better off, only time will tell.

Is the team crippled, hell no.

This team is more crippled than you think it is. TO basically became the scapegoat for all that ails this teams locker room, and Jerry and company will soon realize TO was only a small part of the problem anyway.

 

[kbman]

Just curious, anyone think TO would still be here if Garrett would have gotten one of those coaching jobs?

 

[dbair1967]

Just curious, anyone think TO would still be here if Garrett would have gotten one of those coaching jobs?

nope...he'd be gone

because there were alot of people wanting them to cut TO. The QB, the owners son. Probably the HC too. Probably our scouts, who said he wasnt the same player and wasnt worth 9+ mils a yr anymore.

Matt Mosley said the main reason TO was cut is because Romo needed him to be gone. That the whole TO thing was draining on him.

 

[Hypnotoad]

Just curious, anyone think TO would still be here if Garrett would have gotten one of those coaching jobs?

If head coach had changed, their first action would have been cut TO.

Hmm..wasn't one of the reasons Wade was brought here because he could work with TO? Call him by his name?

 

[bysbox1]

Just curious, anyone think TO would still be here if Garrett would have gotten one of those coaching jobs?

Yes. There's a dynamic about this team that's not right. I cant really put a finger on it, but something is not right beyond the way this team is run . . . .

 

[dbair1967]

No one has really said this is a Garrett issue.

Then you arnt paying attention. I havent read anywhere near all this (or other) threads, and there's at least 10 or 12 people who said it was because of Garrett.

But you can't deny that he's part of the dynamic since he's the offensive coordinator.

I'm sure he did want TO gone, just like alot of others.

And what we have for wide receivers is not good. Roy Williams has proved nothing . . . there's a reason Detroit let him go so quick (besides the fact that we overpaid for a guy that was going to be cut in the offseason anyway). Crayton is just a guy (who also does not show up for big games), and people are gushing for Austin like he's the next Jerry Rice not realizing this guy has 18 career NFL catches. That is not a solid receiving core at all.

Let Roy Williams go so quick? what? Crayton's been pretty damn producitve for a guy that was alower division college QB andchosen in the 7th rd. Is he a great #2? Nope. But he's solid, especially if he is the 3rd guy. Austin has a ton of upside and the best size/speed combination on the team. Further, unlike other fast guys, he appears to be learning routes extremely well. He egts open almost at will.

No TO has made our offense that much easier to shutdown, and since Garrett is deficient at game planning (not knocking him, just pointing out what we saw last year). This is going to make for a rough season next year.

TO had one of his best seasons ever in 2007, and Garrett redesigned the passing offense and called all those plays.

 

[bysbox1]

nope...he'd be gone

because there were alot of people wanting them to cut TO. The QB, the owners son. Probably the HC too. Probably our scouts, who said he wasnt the same player and wasnt worth 9+ mils a yr anymore.

Matt Mosley said the main reason TO was cut is because Romo needed him to be gone. That the whole TO thing was draining on him.

We don't know if the owner's son wanted him gone. That was just speculation and Stephen publicly denied it.

We don't know if the HC or scouts wanted him gone. There's been a gag order at Valley Ranch and all info goes through Jerry now.

And aside from the atypical "TO is a nice guy who want's to win" interviews from Romo, we don't know if Romo wanted him gone either. All of this stuff is just more speculation.

 

[dbair1967]

We don't know if the owner's son wanted him gone. That was just speculation and Stephen publicly denied it.

We don't know if the HC or scouts wanted him gone. There's been a gag order at Valley Ranch and all info goes through Jerry now.

And aside from the atypical "TO is a nice guy who want's to win" interviews from Romo, we don't know if Romo wanted him gone either. All of this stuff is just more speculation.

you are probably right...they did it just because Garrett said so

 

[SkinsFan28]

Well I am sorry to see him go. I loved the circus act. (always had my popcorn ready, ya know)

Seriously, I imagine this will be a non factor in that the good and bad will balance out. your locker room should be much improved with all your signings, and that is going to help you guys alot! But you lose a guaranteed 1000 yard receiver, and RW11 may or may not make up that yardage, he certainly won't command the attention TO got when he stepped onto the field.

Like I said, I'm a gonna miss the circus.

 

[bysbox1]

Then you arnt paying attention. I havent read anywhere near all this (or other) threads, and there's at least 10 or 12 people who said it was because of Garrett.

I'm sure he did want TO gone, just like alot of others.

I am sure Garret did want him gone, but that does not make it a good move, especially with the uncertainty of your WR roster. Remeber Garrett is the same guy who wanted to keep Brad "noodle arm" Johnson last year too.

Let Roy Williams go so quick? what? Crayton's been pretty damn producitve for a guy that was alower division college QB andchosen in the 7th rd. Is he a great #2? Nope. But he's solid, especially if he is the 3rd guy. Austin has a ton of upside and the best size/speed combination on the team. Further, unlike other fast guys, he appears to be learning routes extremely well. He egts open almost at will.

You got to be kidding me . . . Roy Williams biggest knock in Detroit was he underacheived. My brother lives in Detroit, roots for the Lions and his inlaws know people in the org so I heard the Roy Williams complaints all the time. And Detroit has been trying to unload him for a year. They wanted to get rid if him really bad. And let's face it Crayton is a JAG, yes he's done well considering but he's still a JAG. And Austin is a HUGE unknown. You really don't know how well he gets open at will because he's always been in the game alongside TO who gets a lot of attention. And the other part of the time he was injured (which concerns me he can not stay on the field). We will know soon how well he gets "open at will" with little help from the other side of the field.

TO had one of his best seasons ever in 2007, and Garrett redesigned the passing offense and called all those plays.

Yep, and he did that with Tony Sparano watching over his back. Garrett openly admited Sparano was behind a lot of the play calling in 2007. So it's no surprise that our offense degraded in 2008 when Sparano left and Miami got better in a year.

 

[Avaj]

I think it is a smart move

 

[bysbox1]

you are probably right...they did it just because Garrett said so

Still it's all speculation, and since our head coach . . . I mean GM Jerry is the mouth to the media with the gag order we really don't know. Just stating fact. Did not make any mention about your boy Garrett anyway.