Cowboys: Scandrick and Jenkins to split time this season

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Hoofbite;2920939 said:
Not playing both sides of the fence. Just because I think something is true in one scenario doesn't automatically mean that I have to believe it would be or should be true in another scenario.

Its funny you would mention Felix and Spencer when both of those guys had a higher paid player in front of them. But that isn't the reason they were/are behind at their position. Both were have spent time off with injuries and both had productive players in front of them.

And obviously production would trump salary or pick status. But as I have already said, this isn't such a case because Jenkins has not outplayed Scandrick. Not that Jenkins has played bad but Scandrick has played very well.

I just think naming them co-starters is indicative of the team wanting Jenkins to play up to his draft status. If they truly were equal, why wouldn't they just go with what they had last year? Why change if the backup hasn't beat out the starter?

Your argument might have more merit if Jenkins were picked much higher in the first rd, but he was a late 1st rd pick. Also, Jenkins was a 1st rd pick last yr and didnt start ahead of an aged veteran who was playing poorly.

They both have played well during TC and preseason. Basically they are rewarding both of them. I'm pretty sure once one guy distances himself from the other, they'll be on the field FT.

Niether one of them are perfect, but both are solid players. We need them both to play a high level for us to be successful.
 

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dcfanatic;2920650 said:
Scandrick called it a good solution, Jenkins said "they want to keep the battle going apparently."
To me, the decision was made to assuage both players' egos. Since both players will see the field a lot anyway, especially in nickel and dime packages, it was never really about playing time. It was always about the personal prestige of being seen as the starter.

Neither player has clearly distanced themselves from the other in the coaches' eyes, so they're not anticipating a reduction in ability at right corner by starting one over the other during a given week. That's where the only real concern lies. If either player significantly performs poorly as a starter, this will eventually be labeled as a bad decision. If the opposite happens, it'll continue being more of a preceived inconvenience to some fans than it will be to Jenkins, Scandrick or the defense as a whole.
 

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DallasEast;2920951 said:
If either player significantly performs poorly as a starter, this will eventually be labeled as a bad decision. .

I think if that happens, one guy will be named the permanent starter and the spliting starts will end.

I dont think either has performed bad. One guy was clearly handicapped somewhat though by an injury, and I think the coaching staff is taking that into account along with the body of work both have done.
 

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Whew, I'm glad we don't have two really good Quarterbacks. ;)


Imagine that rational at other positions.:)



Maybe they should have just flipped a coin. Oh wait....somebody would have to call it....nevermind. :banghead:
 

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dbair1967;2920931 said:
I dont recall any, but I dont recall Jenkins giving up any either.

On the other hand, Scandrick hasnt made many plays either.

Well... For Scandrick...

the next big play he makes....

will be his first.
 

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dbair1967;2920955 said:
I think if that happens, one guy will be named the permanent starter and the spliting starts will end.

I dont think either has performed bad. One guy was clearly handicapped somewhat though by an injury, and I think the coaching staff is taking that into account along with the body of work both have done.
I should've clarified my comment by adding that some fans would label the platooning of both players as a bad decision. Since it involves players of fairly equal ability, I personally will not consider it as a bad decision IF and when that eventually happens.
 

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What now Jenkins is the next TO. He is going to cry if he doesn't get to start? Obviously Scandrick is the better corner.
 

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ZeroClub;2920709 said:
I like that the Cowboys are allowing performance (and not draft position) determine who gets playing time.

If this was truly being done, then it is likely Scandrick would have the job to himself.
 

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Hoofbite;2920939 said:
Not playing both sides of the fence. Just because I think something is true in one scenario doesn't automatically mean that I have to believe it would be or should be true in another scenario.

Its funny you would mention Felix and Spencer when both of those guys had a higher paid player in front of them. But that isn't the reason they were/are behind at their position. Both were have spent time off with injuries and both had productive players in front of them.

And obviously production would trump salary or pick status. But as I have already said, this isn't such a case because Jenkins has not outplayed Scandrick. Not that Jenkins has played bad but Scandrick has played very well.

I just think naming them co-starters is indicative of the team wanting Jenkins to play up to his draft status. If they truly were equal, why wouldn't they just go with what they had last year? Why change if the backup hasn't beat out the starter?

Hoofbite, then you do you explain Scandrick getting the nod over Jenkins last year for the most part, if it is all about where they were drafted.

Is where they were drafted having any affect on it, in a way yes, but it has NOTHING to do with money, it has to do with upside. I LOVE Scandrick and think he will be a great CB for us, but he has never shown the play making abilities of Jenkins. And for a defense that is putting an emphasis on creating MORE turnovers, we need a CB with play making skills out there on the field.
 

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nyc;2920970 said:
What now Jenkins is the next TO. He is going to cry if he doesn't get to start? Obviously Scandrick is the better corner.
Jenkins may whine about the decision, but it's highly unlikely that he take it to Owens-like levels. Few players actually do.

Scandrick may (emphasis on may) be the better of the two, but he hasn't been the clear cut dominate of the pair, otherwise he would be named as the full-time starter. The decision allows both players to play as the starter and attempt to outplay the other. This has the potential for paying off in huge dividends at that particular position and for the defense as a whole.
 

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odog422;2920806 said:
I'd say he doesn't like it based on his response. I'm convinced he truly thought the spot was his by default. Scandrick on the other hand sounds fine with it because he seems to embrace the challenge and competition.

I happen to think Scandrick will win it outright because Jenkins will make more mental mistakes, but I agree that it's a good solution.

Sounds to me like they are both fine with it. What part of saying that I guess they want the battle to continue says that he is upset about the decision. He is simply stating the obvious. That is exactly what they want, they want the battle for the #2 CB spot to continue, neither one obviously stood out in the preseason.

It is amazing to me how many Cowboy fans can dislike and always try and put a negative spin on EVERYTHING out of some players mouth. I thought that we were supposed to be Dallas Cowboy fans, but unfortunately way to many on this board are NOT Dallas Cowboy fans, they are fans of a certain players only, and are always tring to tear down OTHER DALLAS COWBOY players, to further their own agenda. It really is beyond PATHETIC!!!!!!
 

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This isn't a bad solution, although each player probably thinks they are the best. However, if the ball control offense can score early, and eat up the clock doing so, teams are going to be forced to go to a passing game, and then both will play. so I suspect each player is going to see considerable action in every game.
 

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FLcowboy;2920980 said:
This isn't a bad solution, although each player probably thinks they are the best. However, if the ball control offense can score early, and eat up the clock doing so, teams are going to be forced to go to a passing game, and then both will play. so I suspect each player is going to see considerable action in every game.
Exactly. In my opinion, both players are not begrudging the amount of playing time as a point of contention since both will be seeing a lot of the field anyway. It's about the personal satisfaction (and probably contractual incentives also) of being named as the starter.
 

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Nav22;2920813 said:
This will probably ruffle some feathers here, but the only thing that has kept Scandrick from the starting lineup is his draft position.

If everything else was the same... but Scandrick was the 1st rounder and Jenkins was the 5th rounder... Scandrick would be the guy, hands down.

This is the "solution" for now because the team wants for Jenkins, the 1st rounder, to be the guy. They were hoping he could wrestle the starting job from Scandrick in camp... he couldn't. So now they're hoping it happens during the season.

Scandrick hasn't seemed too happy with his status here and I can't blame him. He's been the better player than Jenkins thus far. The fact that Jenkins wasn't named the clear-cut starter is a testament to Scandrick's ability.

Not that I dislike Jenkins. I like him too. But I have more confidence in Scandrick than I do in Jenkins, by a considerable amount.

Completely agree.
 

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SMCowboy;2920979 said:
Sounds to me like they are both fine with it. What part of saying that I guess they want the battle to continue says that he is upset about the decision. He is simply stating the obvious. That is exactly what they want, they want the battle for the #2 CB spot to continue, neither one obviously stood out in the preseason.

It is amazing to me how many Cowboy fans can dislike and always try and put a negative spin on EVERYTHING out of some players mouth. I thought that we were supposed to be Dallas Cowboy fans, but unfortunately way to many on this board are NOT Dallas Cowboy fans, they are fans of a certain players only, and are always tring to tear down OTHER DALLAS COWBOY players, to further their own agenda. It really is beyond PATHETIC!!!!!!

And it's amazing to me how some fans can take another fan's opinions and scream agenda when that fan's views don't agree with their own. You have your take and I have mine.

Show me the part of my post where I said I hate Jenkins, don't want him on the team, that he can't contribute. Having favorite players or pulling for one particular player in a position battle doesn't mean you aren't a fan. It simply means that in your opinion you think the guy you're pulling for helps the team more.

Lay off the caps and open your mind to the fact the other fans of the team not only have, but have the right to, their own opinions.
 

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I like the fact the staff will do this because it will help to keep both players on their toes as they continue to battle for more playing time. In the end both are going to see ample playing time no matter if an offical starter was named or not but this way they will continue to push each other
 

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Given all the people saying this is stupid to not name a starter, I have a favor to ask.

Can you please explain to me what the hell it matters to have someone "named starter"? If you have two equally good players, what possible benefit flows from naming one starter instead of splitting time?

I can see why players care because the "starter" label may effect their ability to demand pay.

But from a team and fan position, I cannot figure out why the hell anyone here would care about whether one player is named a starter when the play is equal.

(That is, other than the obvious fact that some people here like to ***** about every freaking thing this team does)
 

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I would have preferred to see Scandrick Start this season just to put less wear on Jenkins' foot. Seems that Jenkins is more fundamentally sound at this point than Jenkins, but in watching them play, Jenkins seems to have a better eye for the turnover.

Oh well.
 

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nyc;2920970 said:
What now Jenkins is the next TO. He is going to cry if he doesn't get to start? Obviously Scandrick is the better corner.

:laugh2:

Glad you know how to spin comments, you should become a sports reporter. I think DMN is hiring.
 

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And don't get me wrong here folks, just because I'm not a fan of "co-starting" doesn't mean I don't like the position the team is in.

Arguing over who should start at CB because 2 guys have played well is a good spot to be in.

Hell of a lot better than the position the team was in a few season ago with Jacque Reeves and company.
 
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