Cowboys should trade Miles Austin for a 6th or 7th round pick

[TheSport78]

Hear me out on this one. There have been recent ramblings that Jerheme Urban has a very realistic shot at making the 53-man roster. This in my opinion could make Miles Austin very expendable, especially if these two things occur in the preseason:

1. Tyson Thompson is the best kick returner and serves as the 3rd RB. Wade even said that he COULD have two kick returners back there but you could tell he would prefer having one kick returner, then having a great blocker leading the way (Elam maybe?)

2. Jerheme Urban has a solid preseason as a WR and as a punt returner. Having Urban as the primary punt returner and then possibly having Newman return some if we need to obtain field position or get points quickly in a particular game.

Has Miles Austin really shown enough as a WR so far? I really like the kid as a player and I think he has great potential. However, I would definitely prefer having an experienced WR that can make plays as a WR and a punt returner like Urban rather than just a kick returner (who we already have in Thompson) that probably won't contribute much as a WR like Austin. What do you guys think?

 

[parchy]

Just my opinion, but you can't say Thompson is any better than Austin. On what grounds? The two had the same exact return avg., and Austin returned the only kick for a TD in playoff franchise history. How are you going to trade that guy?

Plus, we need young WRs much more than young RBs right now. Thompson is a one-trick pony. He's completely unoriginal on his kick returns... he runs straight into the pack. All he has (and I do mean ALL he has) is speed. That's it. No moves, no cutbacks, no nothing. Austin is much more creative.

If anything, you keep Austin and get rid of Thompson.

 

[J-DOG]

Hear me out on this one. There have been recent ramblings that Jerheme Urban has a very realistic shot at making the 53-man roster. This in my opinion could make Miles Austin very expendable, especially if these two things occur in the preseason:

1. Tyson Thompson is the best kick returner and serves as the 3rd RB. Wade even said that he COULD have two kick returners back there but you could tell he would prefer having one kick returner, then having a great blocker leading the way (Elam maybe?)

2. Jerheme Urban has a solid preseason as a WR and as a punt returner. Having Urban as the primary punt returner and then possibly having Newman return some if we need to obtain field position or get points quickly in a particular game.

Has Miles Austin really shown enough as a WR so far? I really like the kid as a player and I think he has great potential. However, I would definitely prefer having an experienced WR that can make plays as a WR and a punt returner like Urban rather than just a kick returner (who we already have in Thompson) that probably won't contribute much as a WR like Austin. What do you guys think?

How fast and how big is Urban?
Austin has good size and good speed.
I would hate to trade a player like that just to fill the punt returner role.

 

[parchy]

By the way, saying Jehreme Urban has any more potential than Austin as a WR at this point is completely ridiculous, not to mention baseless. Jamaica Rector had an amazing preseason last year. Where did that leave us? Urban hasn't even played a PRESEASON game yet.

 

[HighTechDave]

stupid idea

 

[TheSport78]

Well I was thinking we could "showcase" Miles Austin this preseason like we did with a particular player I can't recall right now. I'm just saying as my opinion, what if T.O. or Glenn goes down this season? Would you rather have an unproven WR like Miles Austin or a young vet who can make some plays. The experience behind T.O./Glenn is almost non-existent if we didn't have Crayton.

 

[J-DOG]

Well I was thinking we could "showcase" Miles Austin this preseason like we did with a particular player I can't recall right now. I'm just saying as my opinion, what if T.O. or Glenn goes down this season? Would you rather have an unproven WR like Miles Austin or a young vet who can make some plays. The experience behind T.O./Glenn is almost non-existent if we didn't have Crayton.

Sam Hurd has played and made some catches in a reg. season game.
Why is Urban all the sudden better than Hurd and Austin?
And why is the last wr on our depth chart always an annual debate?

 

[dargonking999]

You must read to much of Mick's mail

 

[big dog cowboy]

what if T.O. or Glenn goes down this season?

Trading or keeping Austin won't impact the Cowboys one bit if that happens.

 

[dargonking999]

Well I was thinking we could "showcase" Miles Austin this preseason like we did with a particular player I can't recall right now. I'm just saying as my opinion, what if T.O. or Glenn goes down this season? Would you rather have an unproven WR like Miles Austin or a young vet who can make some plays. The experience behind T.O./Glenn is almost non-existent if we didn't have Crayton.

So we trade a WR who played in a playoff game, for a 6 or 7 round pick, to keep a UDFA on the team? Because we need a proven guy beind Owens, Crayton, and Glenn?

That really made sense?

 

[utrunner07]

There is no way this should even be a consideration. We have seen VERY little of Austin but from what we have seen he looks pretty impressive. Plus, we have two quickly aging recievers and Austin seems like he would be a possible replacement for Glen, speedwise no one should be able to touch him. Thompson sounds impressive but I think we have seen less of him then Austin. Why not just keep them both, at least for this season until they get more PT?

Give him a year and then see...if we end up wanting to trade him after this year maybe we can get a 5th or possibly a 4rth.

 

[TheSport78]

Sam Hurd has played and made some catches in a reg. season game.
Why is Urban all the sudden better than Hurd and Austin?
And why is the last wr on our depth chart always an annual debate?

I didn't say Urban is better than Hurd. I'm saying that Urban would bring more versatility to the WR and PR position. Urban brings more of a veteran presence right now. Hey listen, maybe Urban botches two punt returns and doesn't make one catch in the preseason. I'm just saying it's a possibility that Urban would be more valuable to this team over Austin, not Hurd. I'm excited about what Hurd can do for us now and in the future.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

think about it, this is how our receiving group looks right now

TO-established star
Glenn-top 5 #2 WR
Crayton-top 2 #3 WR
Hurd-great promise
Austin-great promise
Stanback-great promise, coaching staff will take time w/
Urban-heck of a camp, offers versatility and is no slouch as an athlete
Richardson-big receiver who's looking good
Jamaica Rector-last year's preseason star

that's 9, don't mind letting Rector go, as he hasn't impressed me much, so we're looking at 8 receivers w/ potential left, can't keep more than 6, so I would like to get something the 2/3 we have to get rid of, so when you look at it, entertaining offers for Austin isn't such a bad idea, not totally for the idea, but I see where the OP is getting at

 

[J-DOG]

I didn't say Urban is better than Hurd. I'm saying that Urban would bring more versatility to the WR and PR position. Urban brings more of a veteran presence right now. Hey listen, maybe Urban botches two punt returns and doesn't make one catch in the preseason. I'm just saying it's a possibility that Urban would be more valuable to this team over Austin, not Hurd. I'm excited about what Hurd can do for us now and in the future.

But I have seen what Austin can do for us.
Urban?
That's point.
Thompson barring something strange is on the team as 3rd string rb and kickoff returner.
The one guy I see making a splash is Battle.
He is a bruiser with speed at rb.
My biggest question is with the rb/FB spots and who the punt returner is...
How many FB's do we keep and then who do we keep at FB?
Because now I see Hoyte being pushed by Battle for the backup FB spot.
I know Battle is not considered as a FB but is Hoyte that valuable as a blocking FB to knock off a promising young rb like Battle?
And do not count out Stanbeck just yet as a possible punt returner.
There is really good depth at wr and rb right now and we have some things that may make us keep more players at those positions than normally.
Julius Jones contract and the injuries to our starting wr's may make guys like Austin, Hurd, Crayton, Thompson, Battle and Stanbeck viable options down the road in a year or two.

 

[MadCow]

Miles Austin has more proven regular season ability and has shown potential for more. To give him away for a 6th or 7th rd pick at this point would not be a prudent move. If he is continuing in the same pattern that he formed last year, the Cowboys cannot let him go now.

Both Austin and Hurd have shown true ability to be a very solid 3rd or possibly a 2nd receiver on this team. Urban maybe doing well at this time but I don't see same potential.

 

[speedkilz88]

Hurd is our fourth wr. So we're talking about the 5th or 6th spot on the roster depending where you count Stanback. Urban came out in 2003, this is his fifth year(even though its only his 3rd with a team) and he's fighting for the bottom of the roster, a guy with this much experience should be vying for 3rd receiver to stay in the league imo. As long as the staff feels Austin has the better long term upside, I think its a no brainer to keep him over Urban.

Jamel Richardson and possibly Bilbo would be candidates for the practice squad.

 

[MetalHead]

Hear me out on this one. There have been recent ramblings that Jerheme Urban has a very realistic shot at making the 53-man roster. This in my opinion could make Miles Austin very expendable, especially if these two things occur in the preseason:

1. Tyson Thompson is the best kick returner and serves as the 3rd RB. Wade even said that he COULD have two kick returners back there but you could tell he would prefer having one kick returner, then having a great blocker leading the way (Elam maybe?)

2. Jerheme Urban has a solid preseason as a WR and as a punt returner. Having Urban as the primary punt returner and then possibly having Newman return some if we need to obtain field position or get points quickly in a particular game.

Has Miles Austin really shown enough as a WR so far? I really like the kid as a player and I think he has great potential. However, I would definitely prefer having an experienced WR that can make plays as a WR and a punt returner like Urban rather than just a kick returner (who we already have in Thompson) that probably won't contribute much as a WR like Austin. What do you guys think?

I have seen practices at the dome and to be honest,#19 is making the team.
He and Sam Hurd are working HARD to secure a spot on this team.
Owens,Glenn,Crayton,Hurd,Austin are in...final spot is open.

 

[Number82]

Hurd is our fourth wr. So we're talking about the 5th or 6th spot on the roster depending where you count Stanback. Urban came out in 2003, this is his fifth year(even though its only his 3rd with a team) and he's fighting for the bottom of the roster, a guy with this much experience should be vying for 3rd receiver to stay in the league imo. As long as the staff feels Austin has the better long term upside, I think its a no brainer to keep him over Urban.

Jamel Richardson and possibly Bilbo would be candidates for the practice squad.

Couldn't have agreed more. We have 2 Top WRs, a good #3, which leaves the last 3 spots for guys with potential. Urban doesn't have much if any. 5th year out of college and still trying to stick? If he had been drafted and couldn't get past the #5 or #6 WR spot in 5 years you'd be wondering why he was still on the team. Austin and Hurd could very well be the future at WR. Even if one doesn't ever become a number 1, we could have a 2 and a 3 on our team w/o wasting a draft pick.

And do be honest, I can deal with "Fair Catch" Crayton and T-New splitting the punt returns. Austin is a good kick returner and has potential to be a good WR.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Just my opinion, but you can't say Thompson is any better than Austin. On what grounds? The two had the same exact return avg., and Austin returned the only kick for a TD in playoff franchise history. How are you going to trade that guy?

Plus, we need young WRs much more than young RBs right now. Thompson is a one-trick pony. He's completely unoriginal on his kick returns... he runs straight into the pack. All he has (and I do mean ALL he has) is speed. That's it. No moves, no cutbacks, no nothing. Austin is much more creative.

If anything, you keep Austin and get rid of Thompson.

Austin fumbles too much...

 

[parchy]

Austin fumbles too much...

He was an undrafted rookie. You'd fumble too if you were just given the lead returner duties for the Cowboys after 32 teams passed you over seven times.

He'll be fine. Watch him in the preseason this year. He's going to blow the pants off Urban.