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I THINK this says we are carrying 2 kickers this year. One kicks the 50 yarders and handles kickoffs, and the other the shorter stuff. I like. Kai is money on the short fg's. Zeurline struggled.
 
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JBell said:
Since statistics seems to be a challenge for you.

Forbath has only played in 81 games and has attempted 19 fg’s from 50+.

Stephen Gostokowski has played in 205 games and has attempted 35 fg’s from 50+.

Robbie Gould has played in played in 221 games and has attempted 41 fg’s from 50+.

Those are two other kickers who are also in the top 10 in career accuracy along with Forbath who have less attempts from 50 per game than him. Guess the coaches must know they can’t hit from 50 either.
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He hit at least 1 50 yarder for us last year!
 
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joseephuss said:
This isn't a fact. Just an opinion. It seems teams don't like to keep Forbath. They move on from him quite easily. That has to mean something.
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Means they must think their new kicker will be better than the 8th most accurate kicker of all time! Is that kind of dumb?
 
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Captain43Crash said:
Means they must think their new kicker will be better than the 8th most accurate kicker of all time! Is that kind of dumb?
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Every team keeps doing it for a reason. Even the Patriots.

I think his percentage would go down if he attempted as many kicks per season as other kickers. He averages fewer than 20 attempts per season while most of the top kickers average around 30 attempts per season. His "accuracy rate" is an illusion in my opinion. I wish him success if he is the Cowboys kicker, but I don't trust him. Don't trust Zuerlein, either. Very few kickers are trustworthy over an extended period of time.
 
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DandyDon52 said:
look at post 269 in this thread
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Any time you see a quote-within-a-quote, it's because someone deleted a [ /QUOTE ] tag, misspelled it or deleted characters in it.

The system will auto-complete missing quote tags which is why it shows as a quote-within-a-quote.
 
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joseephuss said:
Every team keeps doing it for a reason. Even the Patriots.

I think his percentage would go down if he attempted as many kicks per season as other kickers. He averages fewer than 20 attempts per season while most of the top kickers average around 30 attempts per season. His "accuracy rate" is an illusion in my opinion. I wish him success if he is the Cowboys kicker, but I don't trust him. Don't trust Zuerlein, either. Very few kickers are trustworthy over an extended period of time.
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Forbath has played in 81 career games. That's the equivalent to 5 full seasons and plenty of a sample size to say his numbers are legit.
 
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JBell said:
Forbath has played in 81 career games. That's the equivalent to 5 full seasons and plenty of a sample size to say his numbers are legit.
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Except it isn't. It isn't the same as playing 16 games per season over 5 straight seasons. It isn't maintaining accuracy late into a long season. His numbers are not legit. If they were then teams would hang on to him. Bill Belichick who knows the value of an accurate kicker wouldn't have cut him after one game.

The article in the link below has a long list of top NFL kickers. It was from last April. I don't see Forbath mentioned. Even if they included 2019 I doubt he would make that list. If he wins the job and does well, great. I won't complain. I also won't be surprised if he doesn't perform up to a high level.

http://nflfootballjournal.blogspot.com/2019/04/the-greatest-kickers-of-all-time-post.html
 
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joseephuss said:
Except it isn't. It isn't the same as playing 16 games per season over 5 straight seasons. It isn't maintaining accuracy late into a long season. His numbers are not legit. If they were then teams would hang on to him. Bill Belichick who knows the value of an accurate kicker wouldn't have cut him after one game.

The article in the link below has a long list of top NFL kickers. It was from last April. I don't see Forbath mentioned. Even if they included 2019 I doubt he would make that list. If he wins the job and does well, great. I won't complain. I also won't be surprised if he doesn't perform up to a high level.

http://nflfootballjournal.blogspot.com/2019/04/the-greatest-kickers-of-all-time-post.html
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The knock on Forbath has been his lack of leg strength on kickoffs, not his kicking accuracy. I suspect that's why Zuerlein was signed, along with his ties to Fassel, as he's one of the best in the league as far as kickoffs/touchbacks go. Front office is hoping he can return to his '16-'18 form FG kicking wise.

That link does nothing for me. Nor does your faulty logic of "Belichick knows the value of kickers and cut him." That doesn't change the fact that Forbath's numbers have him as the 9th most accurate kicker of all time. He averages more 50+ yard attempts per game than Robbie Gould and Gostkowski, and is more accurate from 50+ than Will Lutz and Harrison Butker. All stellar kickers.

His numbers support him being a really good kicker, and a mediocre kickoff guy (although he was 12th in kickoff distance and 13th in TB% last season for Dallas).
 
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