Signed by Cowboys Cowboys sign LB Joe Thomas

[Sydla]

If it makes you feel any better, I don't think we're going to take a DT early.

LOL. So true.

 

[Nightman]

LOL.

Who is the 3rd starter at LB? Wilson? Thomas? You mean to tell me a guy like Bowman would be a backup here?

LG is clearly a need.

We don't have a legit 1 Tech. Don't give me Price. Collins is a 3 Tech forced to play the 1 Tech because of previous FO screw ups.

We need a starting SS, Frazier and Heath aren't it. We may even need a starting FS as we don't know what Woods actually is.

DWilson is and has been the starter
JHeath is and has been the starter along with CFrazier at SS

And Price can be the starter at 1T...... DIrving was a PS player....... GB tried to hide Price by paying him 450k on the PS... he is good

Quit Chicken Littling the roster ..... all the guys you mention started last year

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

It is a tough spot....... we have starters .....we are looking for backups

Why pay big bucks to backups?
Draft a couple and we are set

And LOG is a much bigger need

I don't think we have starters at several positions. Not quality starters, that is for sure. And for what Joe Thomas can give us there is no doubt we can get it in the draft.

We have moved Byron Jones to corner....he was a safety last year and a starter. Do you feel comfortable with the pairing of Heath and Frazier or Woods? All three players are limited. We certainly could use an upgrade here.

We have Sean Lee, Jaylon Smith and Damien Wilson as our starting LB's. Lee is out at least a couple games pretty much every year. Jaylon improved physically as the year went on but there is no way to know if he will ever get back to his collegiate form. Last year he was much better when he played less. It is very risky to count on him to be a full time player. Wilson is just meh. He is a placeholder. Behind these guys, we literally have nothing. Fortunately, LB's are probably the easiest to move from college to pro, so we could likely get a starter in the draft and a backup or two, but you can't tell me that you think Bowman wouldn't be a huge insurance policy. Or Derek Johnson for that matter.

On our OL, we lost Cooper, who was clearly the best OG on the roster not named Martin. As a starter he was average, and that was with Frederick and Smith flanking him. We had a horrible backup OT situation, with Green and Bell both being nothing more than speed bumps. To complicate this, the team we have to beat has added vet depth in Ngata and Bennett. It is imperative that we get some quality depth at these two spots. I am sure the plan is to draft an OL in our top 2-3 picks, but it makes no sense not to sign a vet. Fleming actually seems like a perfect fit....a guy that can play both tackle spots and has experience as a starter. The guy Martin from Cleveland could be a decent interior depth signing....I don't know a lot about him and I know he has been poo poo'd a bit on here, but both birddog26 and Broaddus have looked at his tape and have said he has some decent ability.

This doesn't mention the need for a playmaking TE that can challenge the seam, speed at WR, a change of pace RB, more QB depth and the glaring hole at DT. There are a lot of holes and they just cannot be filled with rookies, not if you are trying to improve from last year and return to the 2016 team's level.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Thomas is churning the bottom of the barrel. Because, that's a fact. He's a dumpster dive

[QUOTE

Who is the 3rd starter at LB? Wilson? Thomas?

At this point it is Wilson. Is he any good? Maybe not, but the draft is yet to come, and there will likely be more linebackers, good linebackers, released in the coming months, so it's not over yet.

LG is clearly a need.

Sure, but the Cowboys have more than one draft pick, and if first round picks were the only ones that ever pan out, then no team would ever be any better than anyone else. Drafting quality in the second through the fourth round is key, though also difficult. Don't always have to have a Zack Martin to have a very good LG.

We don't have a legit 1 Tech. Don't give me Price.

So we won't. But unless you can give us your resume with years of NFL player evaluation experience, it's only your opinion.

We need a starting SS, Frazier and Heath aren't it.[/QUOTE]

Frazier has only been here 2 years before this one, and Church (though I'm sure you'd say he was no good, either, you don't like any of the Dallas players apparently) was a solid starter, Jacksonville wouldn't have ponied up $21 million for 4 years if he wasn't at least pretty good.

Look, talent in the NFL is pretty evenly spread. Can't have top players at every spot.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

And the flood gates have opened.

God speed to you all.

No doubt. We are definitely surfing with the Sharks now Boys.....

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Once again the FO is leaving the middle exposed.

Smith has made progress, whether or not it's the right call, they're hoping he can continue to improve and be a solid, if not great MLB.

Teams take chances on players all the time, sometimes it works out, sometimes not, but to say the Cowboys have no plans for the middle is incorrect...

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Cooper, just signed by the 49ers, was roundly trashed here by lots of folks. But if he's trash, why did the 49ers sign him? Made a mistake? Possibly.

But it just goes to show our opinion of Dallas' players just might be wrong.

Ya think?

lol...

 

[Sydla]

DWilson is and has been the starter
JHeath is and has been the starter along with CFrazier at SS

And Price can be the starter at 1T...... DIrving was a PS player....... GB tried to hide Price by paying him 450k on the PS... he is good

Quit Chicken Littling the roster ..... all the guys you mention started last year

LOL at suggesting Wilson is a competent starter and that apparently we couldn’t use a guy like Bowman.

Price is a competent backup 1 Tech, which we need. He’s not a starting 1 Tech on a good defense.

Frazier is ideal in his specific role, dime and specialty safety.

 

[Sydla]

Smith has made progress, whether or not it's the right call, they're hoping he can continue to improve and be a solid, if not great MLB.

Teams take chances on players all the time, sometimes it works out, sometimes not, but to say the Cowboys have no plans for the middle is incorrect...

They are talking about maybe moving Smith to SAM. Whose our MLB then? Wilson unless we draft a starting MLB?

 

[Sydla]

[QUOTE

Who is the 3rd starter at LB? Wilson? Thomas?

At this point it is Wilson. Is he any good? Maybe not, but the draft is yet to come, and there will likely be more linebackers, good linebackers, released in the coming months, so it's not over yet.

LG is clearly a need.

Sure, but the Cowboys have more than one draft pick, and if first round picks were the only ones that ever pan out, then no team would ever be any better than anyone else. Drafting quality in the second through the fourth round is key, though also difficult. Don't always have to have a Zack Martin to have a very good LG.

We don't have a legit 1 Tech. Don't give me Price.

So we won't. But unless you can give us your resume with years of NFL player evaluation experience, it's only your opinion.

We need a starting SS, Frazier and Heath aren't it.

Frazier has only been here 2 years before this one, and Church (though I'm sure you'd say he was no good, either, you don't like any of the Dallas players apparently) was a solid starter, Jacksonville wouldn't have ponied up $21 million for 4 years if he wasn't at least pretty good.

Look, talent in the NFL is pretty evenly spread. Can't have top players at every spot.

Who said anything about having top players at every spot? Who said we need another Zack Martin at LG?

Hard to take posts like this seriously when you throw strawman arguments like that around and claim I don’t like Cowboys players.

 

[Nightman]

LOL at suggesting Wilson is a competent starter and that apparently we couldn’t use a guy like Bowman.

Price is a competent backup 1 Tech, which we need. He’s not a starting 1 Tech on a good defense.

Frazier is ideal in his specific role, dime and specialty safety.

SAM play 15 snaps for DAL.......DWilson has been more than competent

NBowman would be overkill at SAM but fine as 3 spot rotation guy..... he also struggles in coverage post injuries......A draft pick or two is best solution

Frazier is the opposite of DIME SS ....... he is the Base SS that plays more in the box and crushes people...... Woods is the DIME safety

Like it or not Price and MCollins are our 1T
If we draft a DT it will be another 3T type to go with D Irving and DJones

 

[speedkilz88]

SAM play 15 snaps for DAL.......DWilson has been more than competent

NBowman would be overkill at SAM but fine as 3 spot rotation guy..... he also struggles in coverage post injuries......A draft pick or two is best solution

Frazier is the opposite of DIME SS ....... he is the Base SS that plays more in the box and crushes people...... Woods is the DIME safety

Like it or not Price and MCollins are our 1T
If we draft a DT it will be another 3T type to go with D Irving and DJones

Dante Jones was a 1T as well.

 

[Sydla]

SAM play 15 snaps for DAL.......DWilson has been more than competent

NBowman would be overkill at SAM but fine as 3 spot rotation guy..... he also struggles in coverage post injuries......A draft pick or two is best solution

Frazier is the opposite of DIME SS ....... he is the Base SS that plays more in the box and crushes people...... Woods is the DIME safety

Like it or not Price and MCollins are our 1T
If we draft a DT it will be another 3T type to go with D Irving and DJones

Smith is likely going to SAM. Did you not hear Garrett weeks ago? Bowman wouldn't play SAM here. He's play the MIKE spot and likely come off the field for Smith and Lee when we go nickel.

Frazier isn't a base starting SS in this league. Woods is likely going to start at one of the S spots if Jones is going to CB.

You guys keep saying we'll just draft someone to start here, someone to start there as if that's so easy. Plus 7 of our picks are the 4th round and later, so it's not like we have a crap ton of premium picks that have a higher than average chance of actually being immediate contributors.

 

[speedkilz88]

Smith is likely going to SAM. Did you not hear Garrett weeks ago?

No, it later came out that Garrett was just answering leading questions (Clarence Watkins) and that he said Smith could see some snaps at Sam. This was clarified by Archer.

 

[Sydla]

Dante Jones was a 1T as well.

And like Collins, out of position at the 1 Tech.

 

[Sydla]

No, it later came out that Garrett was just answering leading questions (Clarence Watkins) and that he said Smith could see some snaps at Sam. This was clarified by Archer.

Archer can be a mouthpiece for the front office and coaching staff. Garrett and the Cowboys caught some flak when it came out so they tried to walk it back.

But you read Garrett's quote, and it sure seems like they want to try him at SAM. It's why they went out of their way to basically say he's going to be a three down LB, so don't worry that he's playing SAM, because he'll be the nickel backer too. Think Myles Jack and how the Jags use him. He's the SAM but also the nickel.

Frankly, I don't have an issue with them moving him to SAM. I don't think he's a MLB.

Which is why I think it was an ideal situation to get a two down thumper at MLB and then maybe draft another LB for depth with Wilson.

 

[Seven]

They were gonna sign Santa but he's unavailable for the playoffs......

 

[xwalker]

Smith is likely going to SAM. Did you not hear Garrett weeks ago? Bowman wouldn't play SAM here. He's play the MIKE spot and likely come off the field for Smith and Lee when we go nickel.

Frazier isn't a base starting SS in this league. Woods is likely going to start at one of the S spots if Jones is going to CB.

You guys keep saying we'll just draft someone to start here, someone to start there as if that's so easy. Plus 7 of our picks are the 4th round and later, so it's not like we have a crap ton of premium picks that have a higher than average chance of actually being immediate contributors.

The Jaylon to SAM announcement was when they could negotiate with Hitchens before free agency. They were sending a message that Hitchens would be the starter at MLB if he re-signed.

Teams don't announce subtle moves like Jaylon from MLB to SLB in March unless there is a reason for it. Garrett especially does not give out info randomly.

 

[speedkilz88]

Scouting Report: New LB Thomas Adds Quality Depth, Special Teams Skill

• Nice short area quickness. Can cover some ground when he’s on the move.

• Plays with a burst, which helps him with his range. Can change directions quickly in order to get back to the ball.

• Plays with good upper body strength. Uses his hands to disengage from blocks. You don’t see him get caught up on blockers.

• His contact balance is where it needs to be. You don’t see him getting washed or knocked around.

• Plays with the ability to strike/explode. If he gets a clean shot, he’s going to take it.

• Has the athletic ability to carry his man up the field.

 

[dallasdave]

Had 14 tackles last year. Word

Rick would say WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!