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Too many coaching changes dramatically flies in the face of consistency for 2025!
Let us pray for numerous miracles to come into fruition for this organization. :huh:

I hereby predict that our many contests to be completed in 2025 will be ridiculous!
 
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Didn't see that coming.

Everything seemed, rather, to point to Eagles assistant and long-time Cowboys Asst WR coach Kyle Valero making a return engagement... why else wait this long?

I'm skeptical that this is a good idea. That's unlike the O-line hire, where we can feel some confidence that regardless of how much hyperbole there is to having hired "the best" college o-line coach to work under Adams... that... Adams will be the ex-officio O-line coach, ie, a heavy hand.

My sense is we needed a voice who WRs are going to have some reason to give regard. Our OC is not a former WR coach. Neither is our HC. This person should be someone with some NFL pedigree, imo.

You can of course hire a high-caliber, high-regard QB coach who has some of that background, and who can be a support to a newbie WR coach... but to @Risen Star 's point... Underwood should take a bit of offense to think he's going to be subjugated to someone with so little resume'.

Imo.
Risen was being hyperbolic. Adams has been coaching and major college programs for 10 years. Underwood only 4
 

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I absolutely love the staff that was hired AFTER Shottenheimer so not sure why you pooled the whole bunch with Shotty in my description. So this reply speaks of only Shottenheimer:

Why exactly do you think he is not a poor choice considering he has done nothing that screams HC in his history and there were better clear cut choices for HC available? Did you like his speech, that was hijacked by an egocentric owner who obviously views him as nothing more than a puppet?

That being said, I would absolutely love it if he proved me wrong and he became someone that could take this team to the next next level. Maybe, but it will take a WHOLE lot more than talk but actually getting to the big game to convince the majority of Cowboy fans.
He may end up being a poor choice, but once upon a time, he was the hot up-and-coming coordinator that teams were considering for their head coaching positions, primarily during his time with the Jets. However, he passed on those opportunities and found out they don't always come back around. It's hard to tell on coordinators who is going to be successful as a head coach. (Loved Wade Phillips as a coordinator, but he was a cupcake as a head coach.) I think No-Schott is behind the eight ball because of this front office, but I'm not going to count him out because he wasn't the "clear-cut" better choice.
 

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He may end up being a poor choice, but once upon a time, he was the hot up-and-coming coordinator that teams were considering for their head coaching positions, primarily during his time with the Jets. However, he passed on those opportunities and found out they don't always come back around. It's hard to tell on coordinators who is going to be successful as a head coach. (Loved Wade Phillips as a coordinator, but he was a cupcake as a head coach.) I think No-Schott is behind the eight ball because of this front office, but I'm not going to count him out because he wasn't the "clear-cut" better choice.
well, i may be down on Jerry (and that is not hard to do these days) for his hire, considering who was available and for what he passed all up for, but I certainly am not giving up on him doing what he was hired to do. I do consider the possibility that he could prove me wrong, and I hope I am. I agree that there isn't much to go on in judging him as he has never been HC before, and that the correlation between being a good coordinator and being a good HC is not the most accurate, so for that I will put my initial judgement behind me and look to see what he puts on the field. I do love the staff that was hired after him, think they did a fantastic job there. Really excited to see what comes of this group, but my hope in Jerry allowing this coaching staff to run the team the way they seem fit is another story.
 

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Jerry is definitely swinging more towards unqualified newbie instead of burnout retread in his coaching hires.
 

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well, i may be down on Jerry (and that is not hard to do these days) for his hire, considering who was available and for what he passed all up for, but I certainly am not giving up on him doing what he was hired to do. I do consider the possibility that he could prove me wrong, and I hope I am. I agree that there isn't much to go on in judging him as he has never been HC before, and that the correlation between being a good coordinator and being a good HC is not the most accurate, so for that I will put my initial judgement behind me and look to see what he puts on the field. I do love the staff that was hired after him, think they did a fantastic job there. Really excited to see what comes of this group, but my hope in Jerry allowing this coaching staff to run the team the way they seem fit is another story.
Yeah, I kind of feel sorry for the good coaches we hire because I don't believe the Joneses will give them what they need to thrive.

I use Dan Quinn as an example because it's fresh. Everyone here was ready to run him out of town on a rail after the 2023 playoffs because his defense sucked against Green Bay. He goes to Washington as a head coach and they make it to the NFC Championship Game his first year. No one cut him any slack here despite the fact that he lost his No. 1 corner and had to adjust his defense in the playoff because Gilmore was playing with a separated shoulder and couldn't jam receivers. Now, I don't exactly blame Jerry for that one because how many starting corners can you have? That was bad luck. But losing LVE (who was only re-signed because he was cheap and the Joneses didn't want to sign Bobby Wagner, who Quinn had actively tried to recruit to come here, because he wasn't ... but Washington did that for Quinn) and replacing him with a safety because that was better than any other LB we had as an option is all on the front office. This front office leaves its coaching staff patching together units around a few stars instead of trying to optimize the roster around these stars. If I wanted to be a head coach, there's no way that I'd do it in Dallas right now.

I like this group of coaches that we've hired around No-Schott, and also am just willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I call him No-Schott because 29 years of this makes me believe that he doesn't have a chance with this front office unless something drastically changes. I have a hard time believing that any change is coming, though, because the Joneses believe what they are doing will work even though all evidence is against their philosophy being able to produce a champion.
 

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Too many coaching changes dramatically flies in the face of consistency for 2025!
Let us pray for numerous miracles to come into fruition for this organization. :huh:

I hereby predict that our many contests to be completed in 2025 will be ridiculous!
Maybe but a few college coaches coming to the NFL and a QB coach from the Coryell tree does not scream change either. Remember keeping Dak comfortable is a stated management priority.
 

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Jerry is definitely swinging more towards unqualified newbie instead of burnout retread in his coaching hires.
He's tried all kinds of things after his first two hires (successful college coaches). He's tried hot-name coordinator, in-staff promotion, Super Bowl-winning coach, hot-name coordinator, in-staff promotion and Super Bowl-winning coach. I kind of wanted him to go back to successful college coach, but he decided to go with cold-name coordinator this time. I guess this is most similar to Wade Phillips, since both had been coordinating for a while before being hired by Dallas, but the difference is that No-Schott hasn't tried and failed at being a head coach like Phillips had. That's the one thing No-Schott has going for him.
 
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