Cowboys talk to Gabe Watson

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Senior Bowl - Tuesday North Practice Scott Wright
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After a relatively small crowd yesterday the stands were noticeably more full today with a lot of scouts and pro personnel in attendance. One guy who I have not been as impressed with as I thought I would be is Vandy's Jay Cutler. Don't get me wrong because he hasn't been bad, but I am not sure I see a Top 10 overall pick there. He has a cannon for an arm but he might have been trying to show that off too much today and he was off on some of his passes. Also, his backdrop looks kind of choppy and he carries the ball a little low. The guy who I did like is Clemson's Charlie Whitehurst, who looked sharp, throws a good deep ball and has enough arm to hit the deep out. He will be a great value for someone if he is still around in the 3rd to 4th round area. Penn State's Michael Robinson was a little better today but is still clearly out of his league as a quarterback with this group. At running back Jerome Harrison of Washington St. was the most impressive and looked good while Terrence Whitehead of Oregon broke some tackles and had a nice run. It was a terrible day for the wideouts as nobody could catch a cold, with Jason Avant of Michigan looking particularly bad as he wasn't able to separate and dropped a bunch of passes. Demetrius Williams of Oregon had some drops as well. Notre Dame's Maurice Stovall probably looked the best of the bunch but that isn't saying much and even he bobbled and dropped a ball. After showing off his blocking skills yesterday Dominique Byrd of USC had a couple of catches and displayed good hands while Colorado's Joe Klopfenstein had another catch about 20 yards down the field. Along the offensive line D'Brickashaw Ferguson continues to impress while Ryan O'Callaghan of Cal and Daryn Colledge of Boise St. were both excellent again as well. Southern Cal's Deuce Lutui struggled mightily while Mark Setterstrom of Minnesota bounced back with a good day.

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On defense Gabe Watson of Michigan is still a stud and although he isn't much of a pass rusher he gets great push and penetration versus the run. If I am a 3-4 team in need of a nose tackle he is at or near the top of my list because he could be outstanding in that role. Boston College's Mathias Kiwanuka battled Ferguson and Colledge a lot but I have noticed he really lacks a variety of pass rush moves and is basically an outside speed rusher. He needs to diversify if he wants to be a star at the pro level because what he does now just will not get the job done on a consistent basis. On the injury front, Jonathan Lewis of Virginia Tech sat out practice and was in shorts after getting nicked up yesterday. At linebacker Chad Greenway of Iowa continued to be a leader and coach on the field while looking natural in coverage and Brian Iwuh of Colorado impressed and displayed great range.

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I spent a lot of time watching the defensive backs today and came away impressed as this is a solid group from top to bottom. Will Blackmon of B.C. looked natural, quick and smooth in drills and hasn't missed a beat while Tye Hill of Clemson showed of his speed and athleticism to go along with a physical and aggressive approach. Darrell Hunter of Miami (OH) had a great day as well, showing the quick feet and good ball skills that is drawing him a lot of interest from scouts. A guy who surprised me with how well he played is David Pittman of Northwestern St. (LA) and he could be one of the top sleepers in this draft when all is said and done. At safety Anthony Smith of Syracuse finished well and flashed top intangibles while Jahmile Addae picked off a Charlie Whitehurst pass near the end of practice.

As I said there were a lot of big names around the field today, including Charley Casserly, Nick Saban, Romeo Crennel, Jon Gruden (who took a special interest in the defensive backs) and Andy Reid just to name a few. Once again scouts scampered onto the field following practice to talk with prospects and here is a rundown of who I saw each team with: San Diego had a major presence and they were seen talking to Joe Klopfenstein, Martin Nance, Davin Joseph, and Charles Spencer. The Dallas Cowboys gave a lot of attention to Gabe Watson while Miami chatted up Charlie Whitehurst. Cleveland spoke with Maurice Stovall, Abdul Hodge, Dominique Byrd, Babatunde Oshinowo, Davin Joseph, Victor Adeyanju, and Demetrius Williams. The Jets were seen with Mathias Kiwanuka and Michael Robinson, the Giants with Chad Greenway, the Commanders with Dominique Byrd and the Eagles with Tye Hill, David Pittman, Mike Bell, and Michael Robinson. Meanwhile Kansas City showed interest in Gabe Watson, Davin Joseph, Mark Setterstrom, Anwar Phillips, Michael Robinson, and Deuce Lutui. Cincinnati was also making the rounds and was seen with Brian Iwuh, Jon Alston, Davin Joseph, Darryl Tapp and Nick Mangold. D'Brickashaw Ferguson was chatted up by scouts from Carolina and Cleveland while Denver and the Panthers talked with Cedric Humes. Carolina was also extremely active and others they were seen with include Maurice Stovall, Jason Avant, Derek Hagan, and Terrence Whitehead. Finally, Jacksonville had two scouts with Anthony Smith, Baltimore was with D'Qwell Jackson and Lawrence Vickers, and both Tennessee and Oakland spoke with Darrell Hunter. As you can see it was real active! Overall it was a good day and this squad got a lot more exposure and attention than they did on Monday.

 

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Good. I didn't see much college football this last year, but I saw Watson the year before and he was awesome.
 

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Gaede said:
Good. I didn't see much college football this last year, but I saw Watson the year before and he was awesome.

Being a Michigan fan, I saw every game this year and his entire career, and he was kind of a disappointment considering the amount of hype he received coming out of high school. He was great for about the first half of his junior year, but then he starting tailing off. He had a very up and down senior season. He has all the physical tools in the world, but the coaches were constantly on him about being out of shape and for not playing with enough intensity. This year, he was demoted from starting NT to a back-up after the first game and didn't start again until the 6th game of the season. He also didn't start the bowl game this year against Nebraska. If a coach could convince him to get really serious about football and play hard all the time, he has the talent to be a great 3-4 NT, but I wouldn't get my hopes up based on his college career.
 

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No thanks, next

Amazing this kid hardly shows an ounce of ambition all year till now. Makes you wonder what will happen once he get's his pay day.
 

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HomeOfLegends said:
No thanks, next

Amazing this kid hardly shows an ounce of ambition all year till now. Makes you wonder what will happen once he get's his pay day.

My thoughts exactly. I want guys who have a burning desire to excel onthe field not just cash a check.
 

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We'd be talking about using a 2nd in order to get this guy, NWIH is he a 1st rounder. I'm not big on lazy guys. Not only would I be disapointed with the choice of Watson, but taking a NT that early would tell you a lot about how BP feels about the season his big money signing Ferguson had. We sure didn't get 10m worth of bang for our cap space between Fergie and Glover at NT.

I would feel a little better if we went with a Babatunde Oshinowo in the 3rd, even better if we went with Grady Jackson as a FA from GB.
 

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HomeOfLegends said:
No thanks, next

Amazing this kid hardly shows an ounce of ambition all year till now. Makes you wonder what will happen once he get's his pay day.

Anttaj Hawthorne, take two.
 

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Does anyone know if any of the players we talked to at the Senior Bowl last year ended up on the team?
 

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abersonc said:
Does anyone know if any of the players we talked to at the Senior Bowl last year ended up on the team?

If memory serves... no they didn't.

I remember parcells talking to a DE from Va. Tech a LOT. His name was Davis maybe? Anyway, whoever he was, we definately didn't draft him. There were other's too that we talked to that never made their way onto the team.

I thought that yesterday and so realized not to put too much stock into who's talkin' to who at the senior bowl.
 

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One of the strongest players in college football. Would be a perfect fit for a team running a 3-4 Scheme.

I would not be shocked at all if the Cowboys were to take him at Number 18.

- Mike G.
 

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jlust22 said:
Being a Michigan fan, I saw every game this year and his entire career, and he was kind of a disappointment considering the amount of hype he received coming out of high school. He was great for about the first half of his junior year, but then he starting tailing off. He had a very up and down senior season. He has all the physical tools in the world, but the coaches were constantly on him about being out of shape and for not playing with enough intensity. This year, he was demoted from starting NT to a back-up after the first game and didn't start again until the 6th game of the season. He also didn't start the bowl game this year against Nebraska. If a coach could convince him to get really serious about football and play hard all the time, he has the talent to be a great 3-4 NT, but I wouldn't get my hopes up based on his college career.

You are correct, being a Michigan fan, thats my assement. Looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane sometimes, totally disappearing in games. He showed occasional flashes, but never in any consistant basis.
 

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Chocolate Lab said:
Exactly what I was thinking...

Hopefully he doesn't have Hawthorne's drug issues, though.

The drug issue kept Hawthorne from being drafted high. But that saved a ton of teams from wasting a pick on him.

The guy flat out sucks. But folks were really high on him about this time last year.
 

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MrPhil said:
My thoughts exactly. I want guys who have a burning desire to excel onthe field not just cash a check.

Yeah, I think he's a more talented Willie Blade. I you got to call their parents to get them play well. Move on.
 

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kartr said:
Yeah, I think he's a more talented Willie Blade. I you got to call their parents to get them play well. Move on.

that's the kind of guy you take in the 6th round. not the first day.
 

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1) Cowboys spent a lot of time with Spears at last years Senior Bowl.

2)Watson was voted 1st team All Big 10.

3) He's constantly doubled and still dominant and disruptive. Same guys saying he sucks here are the same guys saying Fergi SUCKS TOO! No clue on what a 3-4 NT is asked to do.

4) He is blowing up Senior Bowl and Dallas is interested.


The few games I saw Watson he played very good. Disruptive actually.
 

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Nors said:
1) Cowboys spent a lot of time with Spears at last years Senior Bowl.

2)Watson was voted 1st team All Big 10.

3) He's constantly doubled and still dominant and disruptive. Same guys saying he sucks here are the same guys saying Fergi SUCKS TOO! No clue on what a 3-4 NT is asked to do.

4) He is blowing up Senior Bowl and Dallas is interested.


The few games I saw Watson he played very good. Disruptive actually.

Yep, he is not a guy that is going to get you alot of sacks, which is not his job anyway, but a run stuffer and a 3 year letterman at Michigan that played against big time competition.

I wouldnt be surprised at all if this is your #18 pick folks. Which I would not mind if some Offensive Tackles slip into the 2nd Round.

Oh and Nors is right, dude had to be accounted for on every snap, was doubled constantly because of his size and strength and ability to set his own line of Scrimmage.
 
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