TRADED Cowboys trade for George Pickens and 2027 6th for 2026 3rd and 2027 5th

dstew60105 said:
No Jerry or Stephen lover here, but I recognize a good trade when I see it. A terrible trade would have been moving up from 12 to 4, as you dreamed of, for Mason Graham. The DT from Michigan who is no sure thing.
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Is the trade itself bad?
You're swapping a 3rd for most likely a comp 4th or at best a comp 3rd. Plus the swapping of the lower round picks. So basically giving up a round of value.

For a guy most teams didnt want to touch. Does show some talent. Most likely a one year rental.

If this team was one #2 WR away from having a shot at the SB, then its worth the risk.

Are we? IMO, no.

So giving anything for him is a waste, IMO. Unless you're just trying to keep the fan base engaged for another year.
 
BlindFaith said:
Is the trade itself bad?
You're swapping a 3rd for most likely a comp 4th or at best a comp 3rd. Plus the swapping of the lower round picks. So basically giving up a round of value.

For a guy most teams didnt want to touch. Does show some talent. Most likely a one year rental.
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Does show some talent? Seriously? Well if that is the talent level YOU think we traded for then it explains your opinion. The guy is a legit #1 on some teams and a fantastic #1A or #2 here however you want to define it from a talent perspective. Regardless referring to him as a guy who has shown "some talent" shows you haven't watched him or are just trying to be contrarian or try and sell your point. From a talent perspective this is a ridiculous steal for the Cowboys. Minimal cap hit and a huge talent. That is the combine that costs a lot in a trade. The issue with Pickens is of course the attitude and volatility and how he fits in. That is why you get a #1 WR for as little as we had to give up. If he didn't have baggage at $3M for the season he costs you a first rounder at a minimum.

Also, I have no idea where people are getting the idea that there is zero chance he is here beyond this year. I don't know the percentage and it sure is nowhere near 100%, but it sure isn't near 0% either. And even if he is one and done, we at worst get back a 4th and potentially a 3rd.
 
Jarntt said:
Does show some talent? Seriously? Well if that is the talent level YOU think we traded for then it explains your opinion. The guy is a legit #1 on some teams and a fantastic #1A or #2 here however you want to define it from a talent perspective. Regardless referring to him as a guy who has shown "some talent" shows you haven't watched him or are just trying to be contrarian or try and sell your point. From a talent perspective this is a ridiculous steal for the Cowboys. Minimal cap hit and a huge talent. That is the combine that costs a lot in a trade. The issue with Pickens is of course the attitude and volatility and how he fits in. That is why you get a #1 WR for as little as we had to give up. If he didn't have baggage at $3M for the season he costs you a first rounder at a minimum.

Also, I have no idea where people are getting the idea that there is zero chance he is here beyond this year. I don't know the percentage and it sure is nowhere near 100%, but it sure isn't near 0% either. And even if he is one and done, we at worst get back a 4th and potentially a 3rd.
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I watched him last year when we played them. Did nothing. 3 for 26 on 7 targets. Ask Lewis what he thinks of him.

Ironically, Tolbert was the star of that game.

Just looked up his 2024 stats
59 103 900 3
32nd in yards and 81st in TD

And for reference, our #3 last year that everyone wants to run out of town
49 79 610 7

Call me crazy, but I dont see how 1 of them is all world, number 1 talent and the other is destined for the chopping block.
 
Jarntt said:
Does show some talent? Seriously? Well if that is the talent level YOU think we traded for then it explains your opinion. The guy is a legit #1 on some teams and a fantastic #1A or #2 here however you want to define it from a talent perspective. Regardless referring to him as a guy who has shown "some talent" shows you haven't watched him or are just trying to be contrarian or try and sell your point. From a talent perspective this is a ridiculous steal for the Cowboys. Minimal cap hit and a huge talent. That is the combine that costs a lot in a trade. The issue with Pickens is of course the attitude and volatility and how he fits in. That is why you get a #1 WR for as little as we had to give up. If he didn't have baggage at $3M for the season he costs you a first rounder at a minimum.

Also, I have no idea where people are getting the idea that there is zero chance he is here beyond this year. I don't know the percentage and it sure is nowhere near 100%, but it sure isn't near 0% either. And even if he is one and done, we at worst get back a 4th and potentially a 3rd.
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He’s UFA after the season.

$$$$$
 
BlindFaith said:
Is the trade itself bad?
You're swapping a 3rd for most likely a comp 4th or at best a comp 3rd. Plus the swapping of the lower round picks. So basically giving up a round of value.

For a guy most teams didnt want to touch. Does show some talent. Most likely a one year rental.

If this team was one #2 WR away from having a shot at the SB, then its worth the risk.

Are we? IMO, no.

So giving anything for him is a waste, IMO. Unless you're just trying to keep the fan base engaged for another year.
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Unlikely to get a comp that high.

Most likely a 6th.

There is a limit on the number of comp picks also.

The knock on the trade is he’s a head case, will be UFA, we lost a 3rd, and he isn’t even all pro/pro bowl.

The pros: 30-60 catches. 4-8 TDs. 800+yds
 
BlindFaith said:
I watched him last year when we played them. Did nothing. 3 for 26 on 7 targets. Ask Lewis what he thinks of him.

Ironically, Tolbert was the star of that game.

Just looked up his 2024 stats
59 103 900 3
32nd in yards and 81st in TD

And for reference, our #3 last year that everyone wants to run out of town
49 79 610 7

Call me crazy, but I dont see how 1 of them is all world, number 1 talent and the other is destined for the chopping block.
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So if you watched him one game that would explain you not understanding his talent and bringing up Tolbert as a comparison is just silly if you had watched him more than one game. Career YPC Tolbert 12.2; Pickens 16.3.

Does this look like something this team has been lacking:

 
DuncanIso said:
He’s UFA after the season.

$$$$$
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Yes. We all know that. Not sure the point. That's why it isn't a 100% chance he will be here long term but of course as I stated it's not like it is zero either. People are seemingly attempting to portray it that way for no reason other than to try and twist the trade as being a bad move
 
DuncanIso said:
Unlikely to get a comp that high.

Most likely a 6th.

There is a limit on the number of comp picks also.

The knock on the trade is he’s a head case, will be UFA, we lost a 3rd, and he isn’t even all pro/pro bowl.

The pros: 30-60 catches. 4-8 TDs. 800+yds
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Comp picks are speculative. That's why you cant count on them as being part of the deal.

I get that hes a deep ball guy. Tall, athletic, not blazing speed but above average.

I also get that Pitt had/has a mess at QB.

But for a 3rd year player who was the teams #1, those numbers are pedestrian. Really concerning is the lack of TDs.

Combine that with drama issues, and final year of his contract, no way I drop a 3rd on him. Generally seems to be the consensus from other teams as well.
 
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