Game Day ***Cowboys vs Giants post game thread***

[DallasCowboys2080]

Seattle and Philadelphia are both 3-3 I believe.

They aren't that good either.

Unfortunately Dez probably won't play next week so probably another loss.

yup but giants had the worst d we would have faced in awhile. still couldnt get it done. its cool man we can get early draft pick for 2016.

 

[Idgit]

once again Nothing and i mean nothing lies at Garretts feet. This is the No Responsibility coach

Confused. You quoted a post of mine where I was pointing out everything Garrett and his staff were responsible for. If it wasn't clear, he's responsible for the performance of each of the units of the offense, defense, and STs. If his coordinators aren't getting it done and not getting it fixed, that's on Garrett. That's what his job is.

The problem is in the player development, though, and not the play calling.

And you'll see this week, JG is going to take responsibility for it again, and everybody's doing to say for some reason he isn't really taking responsibility. And then we'll get to go round and round about that some more. In between the countless threads about play calling where one poster or another things we should either called the opposite of the play we actually called, or just complains that we don't call more plays that actually work. I can't wait.

 

[Brooksey]

I don't think that's what the Garrett club really says.

I'm about as big a Garrett supporter as there is. His ST coordinator hasn't fixed the lane control problems on STs, and it cost us a game today.
His WR coach doesn't have guys who are doing enough to make things easy on the QB, either. Whether it's breaking harder to the sidelines or it's getting downfield fast enough after a big play. His DC has players giving up free drives with hands to the face penalties. He's not coaching turnovers, if that's a thing. There's plenty of coaching blame to go around.

That said, the obvious liability is still at the QB position. We're not going to win any games with 3 picks in the second half. And anybody who thinks the issue is play calling, of all things, is smoking crack as far as I"m concerned.

At least we got some run blocking for a full game today.

We ran it enough but passed it a few times where it wasn't necessary that hurt the team badly. Put that in your pipe and enjoy it.

 

[Idgit]

We ran it enough but passed it a few times where it wasn't necessary that hurt the team badly. Put that in your pipe and enjoy it.

I don't disagree with that.

 

[dallasdave]

We ran it enough but passed it a few times where it wasn't necessary that hurt the team badly. Put that in your pipe and enjoy it.

Some really bad passes !!!!

 

[The Natural]

Romo is the best quarterback in the league.

Dez is the best reciever in the league.

Even with the incompetence on the coaching staff we have the best team in football by a mile if these guys are healthy.

They hide all the warts of this staff.

Obviously those guys make us complete. But 3 of these 4 losses should have been wins, even without them. No excuses for this group.

 

[popp1234]

It was outside the norm, an anomaly, as is born out by the coaches record which is there for everyone to see, an indisputable fact.

I am, of course, hoping that I am proven wrong over the rest of the season.

Yes, it was outside the norm, why? Well, allow me to explain. It was because we realized the best chance we had of winning, other than Romo, was the OL and Demarco Murray. Additionally, we knew Romo (our most valuable player) was coming off back surgeryand needed help). Now, realizing all that, the players still had to execute and beat some pretty good teams under difficult circumstances throughout the year.

Bottom line, an anomaly lasts for one, maybe two games, NOT a season. We beat some quality teams. I'm not buying it!

 

[silver]

Exactly; Garrett never fails; he can only be failed .... by ownership, scouts, assistant coaches, players, fans, etc., etc......he bears no responsibility

He outta run for congress. He'd be there for life.

 

[Idgit]

Obviously those guys make us complete. But 3 of these 4 losses should have been wins, even without them. No excuses for this group.

How so? I'm not seeing three games where we played well enough around the QB to win the game.

 

[Brooksey]

I don't disagree with that.

Well don't say play calling didnt play a part. When your gashing them for 7 ypc on ground and 2nd and three, no need for fades to butler, and settling for a field goal. Its not Romo to Dez, its Cassel to Butler.

 

[Vintage]

Weren't people complaining we were too conservative? They open up the play book and now we are complaining we need to be more conservative?

Lol.

 

[BlueStar22]

starting to think the team, as a whole, is not very good. We should have won at least one of these games and we didn't. Even the Steelers managed to win two games with their backup.

 

[BlueStar22]

Also, despite 3 INTs, I have no regrets about switching to Cassel. He did things I know Weeden wouldn't do. Just gotta cut out the back-breaking turnovers next week.

 

[dallasdave]

Also, despite 3 INTs, I have no regrets about switching to Cassel. He did things I know Weeden wouldn't do. Just gotta cut out the back-breaking turnovers next week.

 

[Sasquatch]

Yes, it was outside the norm, why? Well, allow me to explain. It was because we realized the best chance we had of winning, other than Romo, was the OL and Demarco Murray. Additionally, we knew Romo (our most valuable player) was coming off back surgeryand needed help). Now, realizing all that, the players still had to execute and beat some pretty good teams under difficult circumstances throughout the year.

Bottom line, an anomaly lasts for one, maybe two games, NOT a season. We beat some quality teams. I'm not buying it!

Statistically, last season is currently an anomaly in the Garrett era. You not buying it doesn't change that self-evident fact.

 

[Idgit]

Well don't say play calling didnt play a part. When your gashing them for 7 ypc on ground and 2nd and three, no need for fades to butler, and settling for a field goal. Its not Romo to Dez, its Cassel to Butler.

Look, with 60+ plays a game, you're always going to have some plays better than others. And you're always going to have plays you want back. That goes for both teams, and it's the case with every game that's ever been played in the NFL. What I'm saying is that we didn't lose this game because of those calls.

We lost the game because of the 4 turnovers and the ST touchdown. Of the turnovers, the pick 6 was not a great decision but it's mostly a great play by the DB combined with a WR not coming back aggressively enough for the ball. The duck was a bad decision on the QB's part, coupled with the fact that he also overestimated his arm. The third pick was another overestimation thrown at a guy who was completeley covered over and under. None of those were on the play caller. Neither was the turnover on Teams where we had our best hands in the game for the sole purpose of not turning the ball over.

The ST touchdown we gave up was poor lane control, which I consider to be on the coaches at this point in the season, but it's not a play calling issue, regardless.

 

[Idgit]

Weren't people complaining we were too conservative? They open up the play book and now we are complaining we need to be more conservative?

Lol.

You knew that would happen though, right?

Next will be the "Play Moore. He can't be any worse than Weeden or Cassel" argument. Can't wait.

 

[khiladi]

Get lost!

Everybody looks smart trashing the team when they lose. That's all you do.

That's why you never show up after wins.

Your pathetic!

How about no...

 

[bjfrancez]

I don't think he is eligible, but at least the RB from Alabama looks pretty good.

I would take Derrick Henry from Alabama in a heartbeat.

 

[Brooksey]

Weren't people complaining we were too conservative? They open up the play book and now we are complaining we need to be more conservative?

Lol.

The problem was our running game, and the running game problem was injuries and all zone runs with randle. We ran last years running game today , a combo of zone and power/man blocking with D-mac today. What a difference.

We dont need any back up qb tossing it around, just some play action deep throws that hit or miss long.