Cowboys will be sorry for this Tank job

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I hate that people try to downplay all the criminal stuff he was involved in. Oh it was just this or it was just that. Dude's rap sheet rivals Pacman Jones...AND he served jail time.

But like you said, he's signed now, so we just wait and see.

Jones assaults women, gets in bar fights drinks and drives, gets high and has felonies that are pending. Johnson has two misdemeanor gun charges.

As has been pointed out johnson wouldnt have gone to jail for those 'crimes' here in Texas.

Your hyperbole is cute but its just not true. If nothing else one is a felon or is soon to be a felon and the other has a couple of misdemeanors that arent even considered misdemeanors in 48 other states.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

although I sort of agree with mariotti, it doesnt change the fact that mariotti is a Tard.

I live in North Texas and I have never fired a gun in my life nor will I.

His stereotyping is boring, I mean how does he find the time to write his columns and be a celebrity on espn in between ordering mob hits, eating GOBBA-GOOl and washing his lincoln town car?

:laugh2:

Anyone remember what kind of car Parcells drove?

 

[Bleu Star]

DMN Blog: Tank talks

Calvin Watkins caught up with new Cowboy Tank Johnson.

“I’m real excited, man, I can move forward,” Johnson said. “It’s a process I knew was going to take some time, but I’m excited to reach this point.”

Johnson is hoping his legal troubles are behind him. The Cowboys plan on having Calvin Hill, an organizational consultant to the players, to forge a bond with Johnson. Under the terms of Johnson’s suspension, he must seek counseling. As part of his meetings with team officials today, he met with Hill.
“I see him being a major influence in a lot respects,” Johnson said. “He’s a great guy and I’m excited about getting a relationship with Calvin.”

Posted by Pete Aldrich at 5:07 PM (E-mail this entry) | Comments (2)
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Calvin will keep him in check and he will contribute BIG TIME to that rotation on the Dline. The team just got better.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Jones assaults women, gets in bar fights drinks and drives, gets high and has felonies that are pending. Johnson has two misdemeanor gun charges.

As has been pointed out johnson wouldnt have gone to jail for those 'crimes' here in Texas.

Your hyperbole is cute but its just not true. If nothing else one is a felon or is soon to be a felon and the other has a couple of misdemeanors that arent even considered misdemeanors in 48 other states.

The dude's a knucklehead and he's got the rap sheet to prove it. Do you mean to tell me that the fight at the bar which got his boy killed two days after his house got rushed by SWAT on a drug warrant is nothing? Serving legit prison time on a probation violation is nothing?

Who cares that he wouldn't have been charged in Texas? He violated the law in the place where he lived and worked, which was Illinois. That's like me getting pulled over for a DWI and telling the judge, "Your honor, that .09 would be legal in Georgia." or whatever random state.

Look, I get why Jerry made the move, it doesn't mean, I can just ignore Mr. Johnson's fairly recent criminal background.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

I hate that people try to downplay all the criminal stuff he was involved in. Oh it was just this or it was just that. Dude's rap sheet rivals Pacman Jones...AND he served jail time.

But like you said, he's signed now, so we just wait and see.

I've downplayed his criminal stuff ... at least the gun issues for which he served time for one simple reason. If he wasn't drafted by the Bears, which basically required him to spend time in Illinois, it wouldn't be an issue because there would have been no crime.

I don't think you understand the draconian nature of that state's gun laws. They are regularly rated the worst state for gun owner rights.



I supported the Owens signing because I saw that he's a great talent and the only time Owens ever caused problems with his team was when there was an issue about being undercompensated. I knew that Jerry Jones would never let money become an issue so Dallas now has a good camper in Owens.

It's very similar with Johnson though he's not at Owens' level of talent. Take the guns out of the equation and his behavior is no worse than hundreds of other NFL players. Take Illinois out of the equation and the guns are no longer an issue nor a crime.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The dude's a knucklehead and he's got the rap sheet to prove it. Do you mean to tell me that the fight at the bar which got his boy killed two days after his house got rushed by SWAT on a drug warrant is nothing? Serving legit prison time on a probation violation is nothing?

Who cares that he wouldn't have been charged in Texas? He violated the law in the place where he lived and worked, which was Illinois. That's like me getting pulled over for a DWI and telling the judge, "Your honor, that .09 would be legal in Georgia." or whatever random state.

Look, I get why Jerry made the move, it doesn't mean, I can just ignore Mr. Johnson's fairly recent criminal background.

I have read nothing to say that he was involved in the fight in any way. Im not saying its nothing but there is a big fat empty space when it comes to violent crimes and comparing him to multiple felony, violent offender Jones is just silly.

Im not saying that he should be excused for the gun crimes by any means im just trying to give perspective on the issue. But first and foremost there are two operative words here.

Felony and misdemeanor. Johnson may very well be a knucklehead but comparing him with a sociopath is completely unfounded.

 

[Clove]

If he decides to do something that will get him suspended again, that's his loss. WE don't lose much in this case. Now if we're giving him this multi-year deal, then we're the stupid ones.

But at the end of the day, I want a SB trophy. I don't have to have the guy babysit my kids, I just want him on the field on sundays helping us get to the Super Bowl.

 

[WoodysGirl]

I've downplayed his criminal stuff ... at least the gun issues for which he served time for one simple reason. If he wasn't drafted by the Bears, which basically required him to spend time in Illinois, it wouldn't be an issue because there would have been no crime.

I don't think you understand the draconian nature of that state's gun laws. They are regularly rated the worst state for gun owner rights.

Then as soon as he was drafted, then he should've shipped them to his home state. It's called preventative behavior. You get in trouble for something, then remove yourself from the situation.

It's very similar with Johnson though he's not at Owens' level of talent. Take the guns out of the equation and his behavior is no worse than hundreds of other NFL players. Take Illinois out of the equation and the guns are no longer an issue nor a crime.

Considering all the articles I pulled up about him in one simple search, it's not just the guns. It's all the dumb stuff that he's done or been involved in. If the cops are called to your house 30 times by neighbors, it's a problem.

I have read nothing to say that he was involved in the fight in any way. Im not saying its nothing but there is a big fat empty space when it comes to violent crimes and comparing him to multiple felony, violent offender Jones is just silly.

Im not saying that he should be excused for the gun crimes by any means im just trying to give perspective on the issue. But first and foremost there are two operative words here.

Felony and misdemeanor. Johnson may very well be a knucklehead but comparing him with a sociopath is completely unfounded.

Then we can agree to disagree, because I happen to believe that his and Pacman's activities are very comparable.

If the end results had them both end up on multiple police blotters in more than one state, taking mug shots, doing jail time, arrested for drugs, someone around you gets shot and/or killed, then how are they different? Misdemeanor or felony doesn't matter much when the end results are the same.

I've got plenty of perspective on it. Johnson has to prove that he's really about his business and nothing else.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Then as soon as he was drafted, then he should've shipped them to his home state. It's called preventative behavior. You get in trouble for something, then remove yourself from the situation.
Considering all the articles I pulled up about him in one simple search, it's not just the guns. It's all the dumb stuff that he's done or been involved in. If the cops are called to your house 30 times by neighbors, it's a problem.

Then we can agree to disagree, because I happen to believe that his and Pacman's activities are very comparable.

If the end results had them both end up on multiple police blotters in more than one state, taking mug shots, doing jail time, arrested for drugs, someone around you gets shot and/or killed, then how are they different? Misdemeanor or felony doesn't matter much when the end results are the same.

I've got plenty of perspective on it. Johnson has to prove that he's really about his business and nothing else.

Tank: Friend gets shot.
PacMan: Friends shoot someone.

Tank: Has a gun in his car.
PacMan: Has drugs in his car.

Tank: Has gunsin his house.
Pac-Man: spits on and punches women.

Tank: Passes his toxicology report
Pac-Man: Fails his toxicology report.

But hey since they both went to jail they must be similar.

 

[superpunk]

Rex Grossman is a mental midget

How can you say stuff like this and keep your job? That goes from column-ism straight to insulting trash. Grossman isn't very good - but how can you get away with saying this stuff on a national newspaper?

 

[LeonDixson]

How can you say stuff like this and keep your job? That goes from column-ism straight to insulting trash. Grossman isn't very good - but how can you get away with saying this stuff on a national newspaper?

Because Grossman won't know what it means and, therefore, will not sue.

 

[Cochese]

How can you say stuff like this and keep your job? That goes from column-ism straight to insulting trash. Grossman isn't very good - but how can you get away with saying this stuff on a national newspaper?

Ron Rivera supposedly said it first. But yes, Jay is a joke.

 

[theebs]

How can you say stuff like this and keep your job? That goes from column-ism straight to insulting trash. Grossman isn't very good - but how can you get away with saying this stuff on a national newspaper?

amen. I will never understand that either.

I remember last year when the washington post, jacksonville and houston newspapers were using all kinds of insults towards Drew Bledsoe. I couldnt believe it.

Question their talent sure, question their ability sure, question their past sure......call them things like mental midget, worthless etc.....uncalled for and not professional....

that is what we get in the day and age of the blogger though. There is seemingly no code of conduct for most writers anymore. Its say what you want and whatever you say is the absolute truth, even if you just made it up.......

watch 5 minutes of around the horn, it is the worst crap possible.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Ray Mariotti is anal... quite annoying I must say.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

Then as soon as he was drafted, then he should've shipped them to his home state. It's called preventative behavior. You get in trouble for something, then remove yourself from the situation.
Considering all the articles I pulled up about him in one simple search, it's not just the guns. It's all the dumb stuff that he's done or been involved in. If the cops are called to your house 30 times by neighbors, it's a problem.

His "home" state is Arizona. That remained his legal residence not Illinois. If he would have caught a competent judge when his lawyer pointed this out, again the problem goes away.

If the cops are called to your house 30 times by the neighbors, maybe it's not you but rather the neighbors, especially in an upscale community and the police continually failing to file any charges.


I realize that Johnson isn't a choir boy but if you filled an entire NFL roster with the greatest football playing choir boys on the planet, they'd go 0-16. Look at PFT's turd watch. I think Dallas is one of only 7 teams left that don't have an arrest or conviction yet this league year (it should be noted that the four NFCE teams all have 0 points).

 

[WoodysGirl]

Tank: Friend gets shot because both were involved in nightclub altercation.
PacMan: Friends shoot someone....because he and friends were involved in nightclub altercation

Tank: Has a gun in his car/house.
PacMan: Has drugs in his car.

Tank: Has guns and drugs in his house.
Pac-Man: spits on and punches women.

Tank: Barely Passes his toxicology report
Pac-Man: Fails his toxicology report.

But hey since they both went to jail they must be similar.

Seriously this is a dumb discussion. Both of these guys have engaged in questionable adult behavior and criminal activity...

 

[WoodysGirl]

His "home" state is Arizona. That remained his legal residence not Illinois. If he would have caught a competent judge when his lawyer pointed this out, again the problem goes away.

Again, when he was first cited or whateve, ship them back to Illinois...and don't acquire any more and store them in Illinois. That just seems logical to me.

If the cops are called to your house 30 times by the neighbors, maybe it's not you but rather the neighbors, especially in an upscale community and the police continually failing to file any charges.

Most of the calls were called for animal cruelty to the point where the dogs were finally taken away from him. That said, it's about preventative measures. Do what it takes so that the crazy people will leave u you alone. It's about taking responsibility for your own actions. How many times do you have to get popped upside the head before you realize that it hurts?

I realize that Johnson isn't a choir boy but if you filled an entire NFL roster with the greatest football playing choir boys on the planet, they'd go 0-16. Look at PFT's turd watch. I think Dallas is one of only 7 teams left that don't have an arrest or conviction yet this league year (it should be noted that the four NFCE teams all have 0 points).

I agree with this...and like I've said many times before, I understand the signing. Makes alot of sense in the grand scheme of things. But I just can't dismiss the reasons why he was on the street and suspended from the league.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Seriously this is a dumb discussion. Both of these guys have engaged in questionable adult behavior and criminal activity...

he wasnt even there during th raid and the dope was on his friends person.

And if you cannot understand the difference between misdemeanors and violent felonies then so be it. Its not dumb its just me thinking you have a very strange view on relativism.

 

[Royal Laegotti]

As soon as I saw Mariotti's name I just decided not to read. I have my discomforts with Jethro: signing a army surplus store as our nose tackle but Mariotti's an goof!

 

[WoodysGirl]

he wasnt even there during th raid and the dope was on his friends person.

It was in his house, not simply on his friend's person. His friend was charged, because he was there.

And if you cannot understand the difference between misdemeanors and violent felonies then so be it. Its not dumb its just me thinking you have a very strange view on relativism.

I totally understand the difference. I just look at them as legal technicalities. For example someone getting arrested for drug possession. There's misdemeanor drug possession and felony drug possesion. Legally, they're rated differently, but if it's still a drug case, why shouldn't I look at them both the same.

And at the raid on his house, would it matter to you if he was there and was the one arrested and charged for them? It doesn't to me, because the fact they were there suggests he was probably engaging in smoking some of the herbal essences himself.

And c'mon fuzzy, you know you've got strange views of relativism yourself.