Cowboys WRs according to Next Gen Stat

ChuckA1

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I don't know if Dak has trust and his wide receivers are not, but Dak has a voice. Most star/big money athlete do. Things soured with Cooper and he was traded, don't think that happens if Dak was opposed to it. In the draft Tolbert was his guy, Tolbert was drafted. Dak supposedly had chemistry with Houston, Houston was active.

Everyone knew the health status of Gallup and Washington. If Dak was unhappy with his wide-outs why not force the issue and get your GM to make a move. What we heard was Dak wanted input and the organization was going to listen to him. As far as play calling shouldn't Dak have a word in that also.

Hard to believe that a star quarterback has no input in play calls, hell why not change the play or call your own play, go off script, call the play you think will work, he's the franchise quarterback. I'm not going to make any excuses for him or Kellen they were horrible. We had horrible management of personnel, horrible game planning and horrible execution. Damn, this is such a bad place to be after 1 week.
Spot on, Amigo
 

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If you want to see some truly ugly next gen stats...look at Dak's completion % vs his expected completion percentage.

48% vs 64%. 2nd worst differential in the league at -16. Only Fields was slightly worse.
 

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Damn if Dak has to do all of this what do we need a OC or a head coach for? He’s doing everything but catching the ball. The difference between those guys you listed and Dak is they all have offensive masterminds….and he has Kellen Moore.
I disagree! The offensive coordinator develops a game plan and calls plays but the NFL QB is the one that is supposed to read the defense and adjust. He also has to adjust his snap count and can change plays at any time. Just remember the offense usually runs scripted plays on the opening drive and than it rolls into the lap of the QB. The word on Dak is he likes to throw short within 10 yards between the numbers and when you watch the Dallas offense it's almost like Dak doesn't throw mid to deep crossing routes. His WRs always seem to stop and try and settle into a zone that's open and I suspect it's because he struggles hitting WRs in stride across the deeper middle. Sure he throws a good deep ball knowing he has the sidelines to help him from giving up an int if he is inaccurate.
 

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If you want to see some truly ugly next gen stats...look at Dak's completion % vs his expected completion percentage.

48% vs 64%. 2nd worst differential in the league at -16. Only Fields was slightly worse.

In terrible conditions, Fields was worse.
 

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Welcome to the world of WR1, now go win.
I mean...an avg of 6 feet of separation is winning. And all of the receivers were getting that or better. That's why Dak's expected completion rate was so high. He was missing people all over the field. He was just abysmal.
 

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I disagree! The offensive coordinator develops a game plan and calls plays but the NFL QB is the one that is supposed to read the defense and adjust. He also has to adjust his snap count and can change plays at any time. Just remember the offense usually runs scripted plays on the opening drive and than it rolls into the lap of the QB. The word on Dak is he likes to throw short within 10 yards between the numbers and when you watch the Dallas offense it's almost like Dak doesn't throw mid to deep crossing routes. His WRs always seem to stop and try and settle into a zone that's open and I suspect it's because he struggles hitting WRs in stride across the deeper middle. Sure he throws a good deep ball knowing he has the sidelines to help him from giving up an int if he is inaccurate.
:hammer:.....yep and as you say teams are quite prepared to gamble on whether Dak's arm can beat them.
 

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I am not sure what these stats track, but did anyone notice the play when Dak rolled out and had a wide open WR 10 yards in front of him that he missed badly.

That was indicative of our offenses problems. Dak was horrible.
 

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Damn if Dak has to do all of this what do we need a OC or a head coach for? He’s doing everything but catching the ball. The difference between those guys you listed and Dak is they all have offensive masterminds….and he has Kellen Moore.


I've said this over, and over and over again!!! They always bring up these other great quarterbacks, but they conveniently leave out who their offensive coordinators are compared to ours. Coaching still matters ladies and gentlemen!!
 

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All the blame Dak's getting for the Sunday night game, some he deserves, but as you can see he had company, including KM. Just me but the Dak Prescott we saw Sunday didn't trust his WRs or plays from KM.
But....as mentioned before, this is where he has to step up and close the gap. Know your WRs strength and weaknesses. If KM calls a play to one of your receiver's weaknesses, take ownership and change it to a better play rather than running it anyway because that's what was called.




....and who is throwing the bad throws to the WR's making these stats possible?
 

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Damn if Dak has to do all of this what do we need a OC or a head coach for? He’s doing everything but catching the ball. The difference between those guys you listed and Dak is they all have offensive masterminds….and he has Kellen Moore.

Interesting that your post right after this you say you aren't making excuses yet here you are using Moore as an excuse.
 

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All the blame Dak's getting for the Sunday night game, some he deserves, but as you can see he had company, including KM. Just me but the Dak Prescott we saw Sunday didn't trust his WRs or plays from KM.
But....as mentioned before, this is where he has to step up and close the gap. Know your WRs strength and weaknesses. If KM calls a play to one of your receiver's weaknesses, take ownership and change it to a better play rather than running it anyway because that's what was called.



If Fehoko was so open why did he get two targets?
 

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All the blame Dak's getting for the Sunday night game, some he deserves, but as you can see he had company, including KM. Just me but the Dak Prescott we saw Sunday didn't trust his WRs or plays from KM.
But....as mentioned before, this is where he has to step up and close the gap. Know your WRs strength and weaknesses. If KM calls a play to one of your receiver's weaknesses, take ownership and change it to a better play rather than running it anyway because that's what was called.


Moore didn't learn from last yr, running the football will open the pass. Just look what TB did against us, once we started adding more people to stop the run, they threw the ball with much success. Also, the pass rush is less effective when they have to worry about stopping the run. There was no reason to get away from the run game on sunday night, but Moore kept on throwing into coverage.
 

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Name a QB in this league that hasn't had a bad game. It happens. We knew his line was better an run blocking then they are at pass protection. So stick to what you do best, right? The OC is suppose to call plays that puts the QB in rhythm. So Moore had a bad night and Dak had a bad night.

As Aikman once said, a good throw can beat good coverage. So let's talk about Dez Bryant. It was said that Dez couldn't run routes and couldn't get open when he was released. So you have a QB that needs a hundred yards on the ground to win and that same QB is a see to trust it passer. The offensive coordinating should know this about his QB and try his best to get a hundred yards on the ground. While at the same time calling plays that can get a wide receiver open. So where were all of the double crossing routes? Where were all of the rub routes? Where were the stacked formations? This team needs to understand its personnel and put them in position to win. Dak is not great but play calling should be there to take advantage of his skill sets.

There should be no more defending Moore. There should be no more of this Dak is great talk.
 

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Dak isnt going to throw his WRs under the bus. He rolled with what was given. This is JJ. He goes out and gets Washington. Gallup is out for a bit and Lamb is a slot WR. He would have been better off getting TO. He entered the season with 20 million to spend.

And Tyron should not have been practicing at that point in camp. He wants either Dak gone or MM. or both. Which other it is take Moore with you.
 

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Damn if Dak has to do all of this what do we need a OC or a head coach for? He’s doing everything but catching the ball. The difference between those guys you listed and Dak is they all have offensive masterminds….and he has Kellen Moore.
Dak would have trouble completing a pass to himself.
 

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All the blame Dak's getting for the Sunday night game, some he deserves, but as you can see he had company, including KM. Just me but the Dak Prescott we saw Sunday didn't trust his WRs or plays from KM.
But....as mentioned before, this is where he has to step up and close the gap. Know your WRs strength and weaknesses. If KM calls a play to one of your receiver's weaknesses, take ownership and change it to a better play rather than running it anyway because that's what was called.



Dak does what he always does when under pressure. He melts. He cannot read a defense fast enough to know pre-snap where to go with the ball. The truly great Qbs have a pretty good idea of whose going to be open when they get under center and get a look at the defense. Dak has no idea. Thats the same criticism that got Amari a ticket out of Dallas.
 

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Dak got the job because he didn't cause turnovers. He doesn't throw low percentage passes because in the back of his mind he is constantly thinking about turnovers. That's how he's got the jobs throughout his career. He questions or overthinks every throw because he's scared of turnovers. It's been there all along and nobody can see this.

Sad but true.
 

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I mean...an avg of 6 feet of separation is winning. And all of the receivers were getting that or better. That's why Dak's expected completion rate was so high. He was missing people all over the field. He was just abysmal.

Receives weren't good, Dak was just worse. KM was absolute trash as well. We should've ran Zeke.
 

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Receives weren't good, Dak was just worse. KM was absolute trash as well. We should've ran Zeke.
Disagree on WRs. Agree on the rest. When your wr group as a whole is averaging over 6 ft of separation, that's good. They were open
 
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