CowboysZone Final Draft Chat featuring Drew Boylhart (The Huddle Report) Transcript

[masomenos]

It's interesting. Drew and really, the Huddle Report, do not try and grade players according to where they will be drafted. They grade players according to where they think they should be drafted. It's about the value the player should carry as opposed to the value that many believe they might have.

It's not for everyone but I do like the way they run there evaluations.

I like the way they do their evaluations, evaluating where a player should be drafted, but I think they give out first round grades far too easily.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I think they do their rankings based off of how a player projects to the NFL. What ever LTI stands for holds a lot of weight in their evaluations. Some people can have first round talent and not go in the first round and some might not have first round talent and go in the first round.

 

[dbair1967]

I was talking to my bud and fellow draftnik the other day. I told him we should start a site that evaluates 20 of the "top" draft sites as to how their top 100 do in the pros and keep pdating it every year. It would take a ton on time and probably not we worth the effort money wise, but it would be nice to see evaluations of guys like Kiper, draftcountdown, THR, etc etc. on a yearly basis several years after the draft.

somebody already does this, its been posted a few times here the past couple of seasons

if memory serves me correctly, Gosselin always is #1 or at the very top

David

 

[JPM]

somebody already does this, its been posted a few times here the past couple of seasons

if memory serves me correctly, Gosselin always is #1 or at the very top

David

Drew's site tracks it.
http://www.thehuddlereport.com/FREE_CONTENT/top100mock.shtml

 

[masomenos]

I think they do their rankings based off of how a player projects to the NFL. What ever LTI stands for holds a lot of weight in their evaluations. Some people can have first round talent and not go in the first round and some might not have first round talent and go in the first round.

LTI stands for Length To Impact, basically how many seasons it will take a player till they're playing at a high level. I just don't buy the idea that there will be 8 WRs taken from this year who will end up having careers worthy of being a first round pick. It's just far fetched.

 

[sbark]

Drew's site tracks it.
http://www.thehuddlereport.com/FREE_CONTENT/top100mock.shtml

and follow up after a 3 year time period for further evaluation........BP's rule: gotta wait 3 years in the NFL for final eval.

edit........on a Indiv. basis, might be a Mock draft that follows the actual piks closely day of draft.........but after 3 yrs add in the percentage of those still in the NFL and performing.

 

[Big Dakota]

somebody already does this, its been posted a few times here the past couple of seasons

if memory serves me correctly, Gosselin always is #1 or at the very top

David

Drew B's site, thehuddelreport.com tracks how accurate sites are on their mocks and top 100 in the draft, but not how they do in the pros. Tracking how each teams players do 1-2-3-4 years down the line is a different deal and i haven't seen a site that does that.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I like the way they do their evaluations, evaluating where a player should be drafted, but I think they give out first round grades far too easily.

I honestly don't know how many 1st round grades are given by the Huddle. I do know this, they either like what they see on film or they don't. Examples of this are Sweed, Dorsey, Thomas, Flacco, Phillips, just to name a few. They definatly go against the grain if they don't see it. All of these players mentioned are pretty hot with other services. Huddle does not love them all, for various reasons. I think it says something about them. They don't go with the popular opinion. They evaluate what they see and grade of that, which is really all you can ask for. If there evaluations are not good, then that will show in time. However, honest evalations based on quantifiable data is always prefered, IMO. I'd rather have the honesty as opposed to the colored evaluations based on what most are saying about players. That's just my personal preferance.

Here is what they have in the way of accuracy and how they evaluate. Just for the sake of review. I think you probably have access to this but for those who may not, figured I'd post it.

THE HUDDLE REPORT 7 YEAR CREDIBILITY REPORT
2007 2006 2005 2004 2003 2002 2001
TOP 50 DRAFT IN TOP 50 86% 88% 82% 82% 70% 88% 84%
TOP 100 DRAFT IN TOP 100 85% 84% 83% 86% 74% 84% 78%
TOP 150 DRAFT IN TOP 150 85% 81% 81% 81% 79% 81% 83%
TOP 200 DRAFT IN TOP 200 82% 83% 83% 80% 75% 81% 78%

TOP 50 PLAYERS DRAFTED 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
TOP 100 PLAYERS DRAFTED 100% 100% 100% 100% 98% 99% 97%
TOP 150 PLAYERS DRAFTED 97% 94% 95% 93% 92% 95% 93%
TOP 200 PLAYERS DRAFTED 90% 91% 91% 86% 85% 89% 86%

 

[tyke1doe]

What is LTI again?

 

[dallasfaniac]

What is LTI again?

Length To Impact

 

[tomson75]

I believe it stands for "length to impact"....referring to the amount of time the believe it will take a player to become a productive player in the NFL.

 

[DFWJC]

somebody already does this, its been posted a few times here the past couple of seasons

if memory serves me correctly, Gosselin always is #1 or at the very top

David

True, the Goose has a nice record. It should be interesting to see his real Mock this coming weekend. The first two were just his funnin' mocks. I was surprised to see that he gave this year's WR class a 9 (of 10) grade.