Cowlishaw: Cowboys trying something new; might work, might get Romo beat up

[ConstantReboot]

Just look up front on our oline. That is the best argument. Look around the NFL. Look at the Pats, Colts, Ravens, Bronos. You don't need a high priced RB to have an effective running game. No doubt in my mind Dallas is a top 5 rushing team regardless. What did DM29 do that was special and can't be replaced as far as ball carrying? He wasn't the best back we had in space. He wasn't the fastest back we had. Not the most agile either. Rarely made anyone miss. He could be trusted to block blitzers, pick up short yardage, and catch the ball out of the backfield. Murray gave up 3 sacks on romo last year. McFadden gave up 0 last year and only 5 for his career. It is not so far fetched to believe our running game will be just fine even with the departure of DM29. Whoever the next back is will be a product of the oline.

I don't know why we keep comparing our running game to other teams? While those other teams envy our running game and see us as the standard for an effective running attack. Yet we keep saying we should model our running game plan around other teams? I find it a bit silly.

Dallas doesn't need to look towards other teams on how it should proceed with their ground game. They should look to their tradition - and their tradition says build a running attack on the oline with a featured back and not RBBC. Haven't we forgotten about Tony Dorsett and Emmitt Smith? Murray was our featured back last year and look how that turned out. Why should we do things differently and emulate how other teams do it? We are that standard on how to run and effective ground game in the NFL - not the Patriots.

 

[ConstantReboot]

here's where it's fun when the "educated" crowd tries to paint me in the opposite corner. i already said IN THIS THREAD that in recent years they've done a much better job but in the past, hell yea they were boning it up left and right. so your fun all encompassing cliche is just as stupid as it can be.

and i never said we were getting 'em all right. i'm only saying it's just a TAD EARLY to slap tags on people. but have fun.

No one is painting you in the corner and no one is attacking you. So you can stop being paranoid about that.

 

[iceberg]

I don't know why we keep comparing our running game to other teams? While those other teams envy our running game and see us as the standard for an effective running attack. Yet we keep saying we should model our running game plan around other teams? I find it a bit silly.

huh the hell?

i have never in my life heard of ANY OTHER TEAM wanting to model THEIR game after what WE did. in fact, WE ONLY DID what WE DID last year. before that, you could argue we didn't HAVE a running game. the mere fact you blow by this kinda makes me go "i'm not sure what he's smoking, but it seems pretty potent, i wonder if he'll sell me some to put in my pipe to smoke". i find that entire statement making your said statment look silly beyond foolish. not sure if i got that order right, but oh well. more than enough thought has been killed on this.

Dallas doesn't need to look towards other teams on how it should proceed with their ground game. They should look to their tradition - and their tradition says build a running attack on the oline with a featured back and not RBBC. Haven't we forgotten about Tony Dorsett and Emmitt Smith? Murray was our featured back last year and look how that turned out. Why should we do things differently and emulate how other teams do it? We are that standard on how to run and effective ground game in the NFL - not the Patriots.

tradition again. bwahahahahahahahaha.

i just soiled myself. appreciate that.

 

[ufcrules1]

But what made the running game so successful? An established and successful passing game that forced teams not to stack the box along with an elite OL? I'm not taking anything from Murray but a lot of backs in the league would kill for what he had.

It was a myriad of things for sure but Murray being as good as he was was one of those things. We don't have a RB of his caliber on this team right now.

 

[ConstantReboot]

huh the hell?

i have never in my life heard of ANY OTHER TEAM wanting to model THEIR game after what WE did. in fact, WE ONLY DID what WE DID last year. before that, you could argue we didn't HAVE a running game. the mere fact you blow by this kinda makes me go "i'm not sure what he's smoking, but it seems pretty potent, i wonder if he'll sell me some to put in my pipe to smoke". i find that entire statement making your said statment look silly beyond foolish. not sure if i got that order right, but oh well. more than enough thought has been killed on this.



tradition again. bwahahahahahahahaha.

i just soiled myself. appreciate that.

Sorry I don't get you. I think your blabbering for the sake of blabbering. Do you speak English?

 

[xwalker]

Williams missed the entire 2011 season with a knee injury. He played in 5 games during the 2012 season, then went on IR with a shoulder injury. His 2013 season, I have no idea what was up with that. Reports that he was scared to run the ball and couldn't crack the lineup tells you a lot about him.

He said he could have played though the shoulder issue, but his knee was still not ready and that was the primary factor in putting him on IR. IIRC, the shoulder did not require surgery.

 

[TrailBlazer]

I don't know why we keep comparing our running game to other teams? While those other teams envy our running game and see us as the standard for an effective running attack. Yet we keep saying we should model our running game plan around other teams? I find it a bit silly.

Dallas doesn't need to look towards other teams on how it should proceed with their ground game. They should look to their tradition - and their tradition says build a running attack on the oline with a featured back and not RBBC. Haven't we forgotten about Tony Dorsett and Emmitt Smith? Murray was our featured back last year and look how that turned out. Why should we do things differently and emulate how other teams do it? We are that standard on how to run and effective ground game in the NFL - not the Patriots.

Maybe 1 guy will step up and be the feature back. I don't believe a high priced back is necessary. DM29 isn't fast or elusive and he had great success so that gives me hope for whoever steps up next. As long as the oline is doing its job I don't think it matters.

 

[iceberg]

No one is painting you in the corner and no one is attacking you. So you can stop being paranoid about that.

um, *who* said that we were blindly trusting the cowboys draft process?

oh yea.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Maybe 1 guy will step up and be the feature back. I don't believe a high priced back is necessary. DM29 isn't fast or elusive and he had great success so that gives me hope for whoever steps up next. As long as the oline is doing its job I don't think it matters.

I hope so to. Just concerned about McFadden not being healthy the whole year.Now I'm dying to see what Williams can do. Loved his videos from college. But his injuries in the pros have me concerned as well.

So our running back situation is Mcfadden who is injury prone, Williams has never had a healthy season in the league, Randle - who is a scandal waiting to happen - and last of all Dunbar who is considered the vet and has never scored a TD as a back.

Thats a lot of big IFs for a very crucial position for this team.

 

[Seven]

Romo is no Brady. He was better than Brady and deserved MVP honors. Brady deserved cheating honors and deserves to be in the Hall of Shame.

BAM!!!

 

[mattjames2010]

He said he could have played though the shoulder issue, but his knee was still not ready and that was the primary factor in putting him on IR. IIRC, the shoulder did not require surgery.

It didn't require surgery, but it required a lengthy healing process. So, in 2012, not only was his knee not better; but he also needed time to heal from a shoulder injury.

His 2013 season was just absolutely strange. The more I'm reading on it, the more and more I'm not liking this guy. It's either the knee injury was far more serious than originally thought that year or he just completely lacked confidence to play. So, not only does he have a history of injury, but his injury history has taken away his confidence as a player. This is a guy we like?

From the reports saying he was scared to run the ball and that the coaching staff in 2012 were frustrated with him; I'm seeing why he's a PS guy. I will not be surprised if some undrafted FA RB makes us forget Williams even exists.

 

[remdak]

So, Cowlishaw is saying that the Cowboys strategy may or may not be effective? I totally agree. Way to go out on a limb, Cowlishaw.
My prediction is: The Cowboys may or may not win the Super Bowl next season.

 

[xwalker]

It didn't require surgery, but it required a lengthy healing process. So, in 2012, not only was his knee not better; but he also needed time to heal from a shoulder injury.

His 2013 season was just absolutely strange. The more I'm reading on it, the more and more I'm not liking this guy. It's either the knee injury was far more serious than originally thought that year or he just completely lacked confidence to play. So, not only does he have a history of injury, but his injury history has taken away his confidence as a player. This is a guy we like?

From the reports saying he was scared to run the ball and that the coaching staff in 2012 were frustrated with him; I'm seeing why he's a PS guy. I will not be surprised if some undrafted FA RB makes us forget Williams even exists.

My guess is that you didn't even study him in the preseason. He looked really good and in no way was he "scared" to run the ball.

 

[TrailBlazer]

I have high expectations for Ryan williams. If he stays healthy I expect him to show some things. Even if somebody gets injured, there's always decent backs on the street looking for work. Like Knowshown Moreno right now. This method may seem risky. But I prefer it over paying a back 8+ mil per year.

 

[mattjames2010]

My guess is that you didn't even study him in the preseason. He looked really good and in no way was he "scared" to run the ball.

Studied what? It's preseason. Dunbar had a big preseason game as well, as do other guys who are out of the league within a year of entering it. He had one long run in preseason, and a TD. Why exactly should I be excited? What we do know is, he couldn't crack the starting lineup last year

His few carries should trump his injury history and lack of confidence in 2013 that got him booted from the Cards after only 3 years with them? My issue now with him is if he gets a minor injury and it goes straight to his head and he's afraid to get on the field.

And people have a problem with some of us thinking we should have grabbed an RB in the draft?

 

[iceberg]

Sorry I don't get you. I think your blabbering for the sake of blabbering. Do you speak English?

usually only to those who understand it. i try to mix in logic but that loses more than not.

 

[iceberg]

So, Cowlishaw is saying that the Cowboys strategy may or may not be effective? I totally agree. Way to go out on a limb, Cowlishaw.
My prediction is: The Cowboys may or may not win the Super Bowl next season.

it was the best of lines, it was the worst of lines...

the only way we fail on this prediction is to be an average line. >g<

 

[TrailBlazer]

It didn't require surgery, but it required a lengthy healing process. So, in 2012, not only was his knee not better; but he also needed time to heal from a shoulder injury.

His 2013 season was just absolutely strange. The more I'm reading on it, the more and more I'm not liking this guy. It's either the knee injury was far more serious than originally thought that year or he just completely lacked confidence to play. So, not only does he have a history of injury, but his injury history has taken away his confidence as a player. This is a guy we like?

From the reports saying he was scared to run the ball and that the coaching staff in 2012 were frustrated with him; I'm seeing why he's a PS guy. I will not be surprised if some undrafted FA RB makes us forget Williams even exists.

Coming off multiple injuries, I wouldn't want to run behind the line arizona had either. Idk the circumstances he had in his time in Arizona and I don't really care. I know he has the talent. I saw his ability last year in a cowboys uni. He wasn't timid running the ball. He made guys miss and also would lower the shoulder and run guys over. It was clear he was the best player on the field. Idk how ppl can watch him run and not say he has a future role here of some sort. Very excited to see what he can do with running lanes and the opportunity.

Just follow the money. The guaranteed a good chuck of change for just a PS guy. They have plans for him. He will help this team imo.

 

[Bleu Star]

You call an RB getting 1,800 rushing yards and nearly 500 receiving yards a "really good" year? That's a great year, it was nearing historic levels and he broke team records. His "good year" came in 2013.

And the worst argument that continues to come out of this is, "Why believe in a rookie RB" - Rookies don't have a history in the NFL, it's about potential, it's about cheap contracts while being rewarded highly. Yes, there is a chance that Ajayi would come in and do nothing, the simple fact is is that his story in the NFL isn't written yet. He was a guy who slipped in the draft and was good value in the 4th, instead, we go with ANOTHER LB? McFadden has enough years in this league for us to know what the most likely outcome for him will be. We already know what Dunbar is, and Williams is a PS guy who may not even make the team...again.

I don't care if we go the committee approach, I care about the fact that this staff believes you can take any 3 RBS. slap them together, and you'll have a threatening committee. That's not how it works.

I hear you clearly and your principles are strong. From one bonewad to another, let's just hope that the FO is indeed not done with the RB position. I still feel a trade will be made before this ship gets out of the harbor. I don't trust any of these clowns to do the things Demarco did in the offensive set.

What did he do? Ahhh. We I'm glad you non-bonewads asked.

1. 1800 yards on the ground. Many of which were tough yards after contact.

2. Stalwart leader in the locker room and in the offensive set.

3. Protector of one Tony Romo as the last option in pass pro. Stoned many blitzes contrary to those that say he didn't. I saw plenty of it with my own 20/20 vision.

4. Still gained 500 addl yards catching out of the backfield where that all worldly offensive line was less prevalent out front.

5. True all down back. Does not need to come off of the field. Could do it all which made our offense less predictable.

DeMarco is gone so that water is clearly under the bridge. However, to sit here and dismiss everything we benefitted from last year thanks to that offensive line AND the things I mentioned above.. Well.. That's just preposterous....

To you non-bonewads, I ask this one simple question.

At a time where we know Romo's window is 2 years in length, which is the surer thing that can get us to the promise land before he hangs it up?

1. AP
2. Randle
3. McFadden

Straight up question. How do you think Vegas would spread that one out? Hmmm...

 

[Silver N Blue]

Just Say No to Peterson!

No say yes