Twitter: Crawford: Witten and Escobar talk the most trash on offense

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Why in the world do you keep conflating draft position with any given player's ability or right to talk smack? They are not in any way related.

Had we not drafted Escobar when we did, and had he slid into the third round, instead, where he was a relative value, or the fourth where it'd have been a no-brainer, and we taken him then...could he then be talking smack and that would be somehow ok with you?

You have it all wrong I'm not conflating "draft position" with a players right to talk smack I'm saying they need to "produce" in games to have the right to talk smack. Regardless of how high a player is drafted that doesn't give them the right to talk smack but making plays on game day does. Had we drafted Escobar lower than the 2nd round him talking smack wouldn't matter to me or anyone else. His 2nd round draft selection has put more scrutiny on him because the previous two 2nd round TE's the Cowboys drafted were flops. Fans wouldn't have gotten so upset had the Cowboys drafted Escobar in the 4th round but this team needs to be looking for starters in the 2nd round.

The team is having trouble fitting these TE's into the passing game and having to relegate them to blockers. They're not drafting these TE's to be starters they're drafting them as a compliment to the great TE they have and it hasn't worked out due to the talent they have at the skill positions. Witten is Romo's security blanket and Dez is the Cowboys big play threat with Williams emerging as a big play threat himself. There's not enough balls to go around to make a player like Escobar worth his draft position. The Cowboys are going to have to decide between Escobar and Beasley in the slot.
 

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Why in the world do you keep conflating draft position with any given player's ability or right to talk smack? They are not in any way related.

I'm conflating draft position with production. I expect a TE taken with the 47th overall pick to out produce a TE drafted in the 6th round.
 

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I'm conflating draft position with production. I expect a TE taken with the 47th overall pick to out produce a TE drafted in the 6th round.

So do I. It's just that has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic of Escobar and whether or not he's entitled to talk some smack when he plays well if he wants to.
 

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You have it all wrong I'm not conflating "draft position" with a players right to talk smack I'm saying they need to "produce" in games to have the right to talk smack. Regardless of how high a player is drafted that doesn't give them the right to talk smack but making plays on game day does.

But he's not talking smack on game day. He's talking smack at TC because he's making plays at TC. Your standard doesn't make sense.
 

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But he's not talking smack on game day. He's talking smack at TC because he's making plays at TC. Your standard doesn't make sense.

He's not talking smack on game day because he hasn't made enough plays to be talking smack and he plays on a mediocre team that hasn't broken 500 since 09. He's talking smack at training camp because he's getting opportunities to make plays in controlled practices against possibly the worst defensive talent the Cowboys have had at training camp since 89. We have players talking smack at their own teammates because it's their only chance to talk smack. lol Even the Cowboys offense has no respect for the players they have on defense.
 

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So do I. It's just that has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic of Escobar and whether or not he's entitled to talk some smack when he plays well if he wants to.

If he wants to talk smack let him at least he's going up against players in camp he can pound his chest at.
 

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Jason Witten told @1053thefan that he doesn't talk much trash on Sundays, but does during practice because he wants to push the other guys.

Extend that to games Witt. Our attitude is likened to a school girl "keep trying bs" outside of Dez ..surely wouldn't hurt that the D give a little respect. Dez would be embarrassed to say what Witten says after embarrassing losses. "Work hard, execute, execute, execute, execute, execute, etc." Glad Witten has the power to keep Heath on the roster:D
 
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But he's not talking smack on game day. He's talking smack at TC because he's making plays at TC. Your standard doesn't make sense.

Sometimes, only Witten's intended targets hear his trash talk. He admits to intentionally provoking defenders by whispering, "That's all day," routinely after making receptions. Barry Church said Witten often mentions how many seasons of experience he has abusing safeties.

"He talks stuff so cleverly," Church said. "It gets you so mad and then you try to get back at him and his back's already turned and he's already running back to the huddle. He's definitely one of the most underrated (trash) talkers there are in the game. He's definitely talking stuff out there, but it brings the best out of everybody.

So Witten spews trash talk throughout training camp but never on Sundays, huh? He never takes verbal jabs during the regular season, right?

"Oh, man, he's lying," Church said. "He's such a liar. He's talking stuff all the time, but he's a great competitor and I love him for it."

Wanna set the record straight, Witten? You sure you've never talked a little trash under the bright lights?

"Well, a little bit, a little bit," Witten said, laughing. "Yeah, I probably talk a little bit of trash."
Lol @ Witten....

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4731262/defense-feels-wrath-of-wittens-sharp-wit
 
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