Crayton and Holley: Jason Garrett sabotaged Wade Phillips (audio)

[khiladi]

Why not just blame the Ukraine on JG while we're at it. Romo throwing the ball to a Denver linebacker might have been Romo's fault, might have been the TE fault, still trying to figure out how it was the head coach's fault??? Should they have run the ball three times, than let Peyton and co., just walk down the field and kick the inevitable field goal?

Too bad Callahan was calling the game.. Garrett was demoted and the only argument his supporters have is he took it back somewhere at the end of the season if you believe it. Funny thing is, Garrett homers were telling us Romo was audibling out of Garrett's run plays and lo and behold, our man Kyle orton throws it 46 times. LOL... Excuses never stop

 

[TheDude]

Nice call.

Ha
Waiting for post #281 to reply.

Now will someone go on tilt and close this thread?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

So Romo lacks time situation management? Thats Garretts fault and responsibility, not Romo. You already stated that Garrett was terrible at time situation management.

if you don't want Romo to get cute then the coach should say so. The coach is utterly responsible for a play which he designed and coached his team, to make sure things happen the way they should. Garrett sucks at that. He doesn't help Romo manage the game. He doesn't tell Romo advice to make sure things don't happen. He absolutely runs away from responsibility during crunch time and relies on Romo to do the rest.

Thats why I miss Parcells. He was always engaged in the game. He knew what was going on. He let his team know what to do or what not to do during situations. Garrett doesn't do anything like that. He lets Romo be Romo. Thus the reason why Garrett sucks.

yes, room also lacks in managing the game when he needs to. when the situation calls for safe play, throw it away instead of trying to make a spectacular play. when the situation says run the ball and the coaches have called a running play, go with it, don't change it to a pass, when the situation says be safe with the ball and live for another play, then do that...instead of trying to be the hero all the time. now, has room won us some games. yes. has he cost us some games. absolutely.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

LOL.. What games are you watching? You know what was funny about this game. We went up 17-14 in the 3rd on the legs of Barber, with a quarter and a half to go. Guess what happened then? 5 drives by the Cowboys, where the running game was totally abandoned. 28 plays during that span, only 5 touches by Marion Barber. Out of the 5 times he ran, 4 of them on first down. Do you know how much down and distance the offense put itself in during that pitiful stretch of Jason Garrett genius?

Your whole argument is that it was Wade's fault. We played them twice and in our division. We scored 45 and 31 both times against them. It was 14-14 going into the half after two busted plays by an old and done Anthony Henry and a sucky Jacques Reeves, two players that had nothing to do with personnel moves by Wade and they had nothing to do with the coverage, considering both men were right there to make a play, but old man couldn't tackle on a short pass and Jacques Reeves couldn't play the ball.

The defense gave them a total of 230 yards, 140 yards passing and 90 yards rushing. We could only muster a whopping 3 points in the second half. The offense had 6 drives. The Giants got to 21 at the beginning of the 4th, with Dallas only down by 4. The Giants only mustered 2 more drives and both of them were 3 and outs.

the defense gave up 21 points. who cares about the yards. they gave up two TDs playing supposedly prevent defense.

the giants were playing out of this world defense evident from their run during the playoffs and their performance in the superbowl. no denying that.

and there is plenty of blame to go around. garrett. wade. the team. I for one am not an all or nothing trying to conveniently place blame in one place because of my emotions. otherwise we will miss the real causes of the problem and doomed to make the same mistakes. garrett was at fault. wade was at fault. the players were at fault.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Did I say the check-down was the primary read? Man, this gets more and more comical... First of all, does one think Romo can chuck a ball 70 plus yards that they should even be taking a risk? Secondly, who designed the play that if the deep ball wasn't there, then Romo was to throw the check-down? And why would somebody take a risk when the game is close and you have no need to? Oh yeah, a coach like Garrett...

no one said chuck it 70 yards. that's you making that assumption. but he should go down field. instead of a check down. it was suppose to be a hail mary. you heard of that? if it works it works. if it doesn't end of half. but a check down. 70 yards away. that's freaking stupid. take a shot....that's all.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

First, show me the the evidence of him "showing off" that you stated, you still haven't.

Secondly, not saying that he didn't say it but show me the quote where Choice thought of himself in the same pedigree as Emmitt Smith.

I'm calling bs until shown otherwise.

when you are a stupid loud mouth player like Choice was, and instead of doing the smart thing and going down...he tries to go through two tacklers, and make a 70 yard run...with couple of seconds on the clock......that's show boating.....call it what you will. that's stupid.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I wish he would have done that a lot earlier. Parcells only had patience to a point and was never afraid to call out his players. wish garrett would do that. play was called a run. romo changed it to a pass because of the look he saw. and yet their defense couldn't stop our running game no matter how many in the box. so lets admit that Romo is no peyton and that garrett should make his leash much shorter and reign him in and he hasn't.

even the defensive players called out romo (hatcher) during practice for changing plays to a pass from a run.

Romo is not above criticism, however that one play does not absolve Garrett's overall horrendous game management ability.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Wow, 15 pages already......................LOL

For those that are jumping in here late, I will save you an hour of reading posts because there are basically three responses.

A. These guys are telling the truth and Garrett sabotaged Wade so he could take over sooner.
B. These guys are idiots and are making all of this up, but Garrett is still incompetent and botches multiple games a year with blunders.
C. Garrett is the greatest thing since sliced bread and anything said about him that is negative is not just lies, but heresy.

 

[TheDude]

Wow, 15 pages already......................LOL

For those that are jumping in here late, I will save you an hour of reading posts because there are basically three responses.

A. These guys are telling the truth and Garrett sabotaged Wade so he could take over sooner.
B. These guys are idiots and are making all of this up, but Garrett is still incompetent and botches multiple games a year with blunders.
C. Garrett is the greatest thing since sliced bread and anything said about him that is negative is not just lies, but heresy.

I called 15 pages on page 1. There are only 11 posts before flipping to page 16. I need this to end.

Mods feel free to lock. I foresee the discussion turning to Garret being an atheist/born-again christian who is rallying for/against gay marriage who is championing/ridiculing Obamacare while kicking puppies

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Romo is not above criticism, however that one play does not absolve Garrett's overall horrendous game management ability.

it doesn't. it also doesn't absolve Romo.

btw,its freaking 3:30 in the morning. didn't think anybody else had insomnia

 

[TheDude]

it doesn't. it also doesn't absolve Romo.

btw,its freaking 3:30 in the morning. didn't think anybody else had insomnia

1230 in LA

 

[Beast_from_East]

it doesn't. it also doesn't absolve Romo.

btw,its freaking 3:30 in the morning. didn't think anybody else had insomnia

LOL...........I went to a midnight showing of the new 300 movie and just got home................awesome movie, especially in 3D...........the first one is still my favorite however.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

LOL...........I went to a midnight showing of the new 300 movie and just got home................awesome movie, especially in 3D...........the first one is still my favorite however.

kool......I wasn't sure about the movie, so I will probably go see it....wasn't sure if its one of those out on DVD months from now.

 

[ConstantReboot]

yes, room also lacks in managing the game when he needs to. when the situation calls for safe play, throw it away instead of trying to make a spectacular play. when the situation says run the ball and the coaches have called a running play, go with it, don't change it to a pass, when the situation says be safe with the ball and live for another play, then do that...instead of trying to be the hero all the time. now, has room won us some games. yes. has he cost us some games. absolutely.

Your right Romo can't be a hero all the time. Thus he needs a coach that knows whats going on and help Romo to manage the game. Garrett has lost many games during crunch time because he fails to communicate these important points to his QB. Great coaches do it all the time. I watched Landry do it with Staubach. I also remember Parcells going at it on the sidelines with Sims making sure he doesn't make those silly mistakes that Romo makes now and then. Thats what you call coaching. Something that is lacking in Garrett. Something that I wish Garrett would do with Romo during crucial moments of the game. Call time out and regroup rather than let your QB mess up. Garrett doesn't do that. He cowers from the tough calls and lacks the situational football. To put it frankly....he is clueless. Therefore, I don't see a future with the Cowboys so long Garrett is coach.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Your right Romo can't be a hero all the time. Thus he needs a coach that knows whats going on and help Romo to manage the game. Garrett has lost many games during crunch time because he fails to communicate these important points to his QB. Great coaches do it all the time. I watched Landry do it with Staubach. I also remember Parcells going at it on the sidelines with Sims making sure he doesn't make those silly mistakes that Romo makes now and then. Thats what you call coaching. Something that is lacking in Garrett. Something that I wish Garrett would do with Romo during crucial moments of the game. Call time out and regroup rather than let your QB mess up. Garrett doesn't do that. He cowers from the tough calls and lacks the situational football. To put it frankly....he is clueless. Therefore, I don't see a future with the Cowboys so long Garrett is coach.

agreed. he trusts romo too much and trusts his players too much. he has to assume that they are dumb and minimally outline the situation and explain it to them so they understand and not leave it to assumption that they are smart enough to know.

 

[Alexander]

agreed. he trusts romo too much and trusts his players too much. he has to assume that they are dumb and minimally outline the situation and explain it to them so they understand and not leave it to assumption that they are smart enough to know.

I disagree. He trusts Romo too much and does not trust the rest of the offense enough. Murray and the line were playing outstanding football late in the year and he would not depend on them to close out football games. There was hope after the Thanksgiving game, but then that just went out the window against Green Bay.

 

[visionary]

Your right Romo can't be a hero all the time. Thus he needs a coach that knows whats going on and help Romo to manage the game. Garrett has lost many games during crunch time because he fails to communicate these important points to his QB. Great coaches do it all the time. I watched Landry do it with Staubach. I also remember Parcells going at it on the sidelines with Sims making sure he doesn't make those silly mistakes that Romo makes now and then. Thats what you call coaching. Something that is lacking in Garrett. Something that I wish Garrett would do with Romo during crucial moments of the game. Call time out and regroup rather than let your QB mess up. Garrett doesn't do that. He cowers from the tough calls and lacks the situational football. To put it frankly....he is clueless. Therefore, I don't see a future with the Cowboys so long Garrett is coach.

garrett is a poor HC
he does not want to make the tough call, will let his QB make those and then point the finger at romo to take the fall

did the same with wade, rob ryan, callahan, romo

how many people need to be sacrificed at the altar of the great savior before we realize he is no savior?

 

[khiladi]

Garrett trusts Romo too much in the confined of his crappy system, the problem being it doesn't utilize Romo's assets and it puts way too much pressure on Romo to make plays, thus the lack of consistency between good and bad teams. Take play-action as another example. The lack of usage has no bearing on trusting or not Romo, it just has to do with an idiot coach who has no understanding of how looks can throw defenses off. This manifests even further with little to no usage of motion.

Garrett had to trust him, cause he knows he makes him look better.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I disagree. He trusts Romo too much and does not trust the rest of the offense enough. Murray and the line were playing outstanding football late in the year and he would not depend on them to close out football games. There was hope after the Thanksgiving game, but then that just went out the window against Green Bay.

some of that is romo. I think garrett finally snapped and called out romo after the GB game because he was changing the call at the line. in fact his own defense (hatcher) called him out during practice.

 

[visionary]

some of that is romo. I think garrett finally snapped and called out romo after the GB game because he was changing the call at the line. in fact his own defense (hatcher) called him out during practice.

lol, garrett has been romo's OC for over 6 years but he did not know romo's tendencies until the GB game and "finally snapped"?

cool story

reality is that garrett will throw people under the bus to save his own skin