Crayton and Holley: Jason Garrett sabotaged Wade Phillips (audio)

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I have not read through these 12 pages basically because.........I don't care.

It matters not a whit to what is going on today. This is ancient history.
 

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4 seconds left in the half on our own 30. Lets go 5 step drop. It was insanity. Romo is under fire almost as soon as the ball is snapped. Smart football coaches DO NOT DO THIS. The half was over until Ivy League said it wasnt.

Sure you can blame Wade for this, then I can blame Ginger for the defensive turds the past 2 seasons.

why not take a shot? and the QB should be smart enough to throw the ball away if the play is not there (and thus the problem with romo). and it almost worked, if not for crayton choke
 

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Even more disgraceful is seeing fans hope we lose just to support their own agenda.

I'm not even sure what half of the "fans" on here are even fans of. They seem to dislike every facet of the organization.

bingo. I have seen fans on this board, say I hope we lose so you all can see how bad he is...awesome!!!
 

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why not take a shot? and the QB should be smart enough to throw the ball away if the play is not there (and thus the problem with romo). and it almost worked, if not for crayton choke

He checked it down to the running back, which would be the conservative thing to do there. The running back then had the ball stripped.
 

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He checked it down to the running back, which would be the conservative thing to do there. The running back then had the ball stripped.

The conservative thing to do is to take a knee, the odds of something bad happening far outweigh the good. The only thing good that can happen with 4 seconds remaining at your own 30 yard line is a successful Hail Mary or and interference call and what are the odds of either happening. The Commanders didn't score an offensive td that game, I chalk that one up to the OC and the organization. The OC for not taking a knee and organization that had the HC isolated from the offenses decision making.
 

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so lets call it what it is. their defense played good, our WRs couldn't get open. Romo scrambled, saved the play only to see crayton screw it up.... and the defense giving up two TDs in the last two minutes of each half. big plays too.

How many did we score?

So what's the excuse for our WRs not getting open nowadays? Last year, it was Dez didn't know how to properly run routes. And Laurent Robinson was gone. Was Wade magically controlling our offense then?
 

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why not take a shot? and the QB should be smart enough to throw the ball away if the play is not there (and thus the problem with romo). and it almost worked, if not for crayton choke

LOL.. A shot from 70 yards when the offense hasn't moved the ball all day? On a five step drop? And he checked it down, meaning the play design of Garrett says if nothing is there, you check it down. So let me get this straight, you take a shot 70 yards down the field, you don't take a shot on the check-down? Man, the fact that your defending the play just shows how out of touch you are with reality and how much a Garrett homer you are...
 

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Wow, 13 pages I haven't read. 1) I don't doubt what they are saying. That is a lot of stuff to make up and we are dysfunctional 2) Wade isn't HC material. Jason Garrett isn't HC material. All we have done for 7-8 years is ride 2 coordinators...at the most.
 

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He checked it down to the running back, which would be the conservative thing to do there. The running back then had the ball stripped.

the running back was trying to show off, instead of stepping out of bounds with 60 yards to go, tried to go through 2 defenders....sometimes its difficult to cover for players stupidity. like what happened in the Detroit game last year with Tanner..he was suppose to make a run up the middle to get the clock running, don't fumble, don't commit penalty. instead the RB decided to run it to the outside, where the OL man held his man and got a 10 yard penalty.
 

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And you can keep waiting, because I don't have to prove anything. You're the one that's making claims and assertions about my posting. The burdens on you buddy, not me. Where/when have I excused Jerry's incompetence?? You made the claim. I'm waiting for you to back it up.

I didn't think you could provide an answer. You stated we were going to crush Green Bay and when we lose, you go into instant Jerry/JG defense mode. You said the same thing about Philly and, once again, instead of sticking to your guns, you go into defense mode. A team goes on a run, they got good breaks. We start to fade, it's because of bad breaks. The draft is around the corner and you wish for luck during an event that to you is nothing more than a crap shoot. Yes, you're a demanding sort when it comes to Jerry.
 

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LOL.. A shot from 70 yards when the offense hasn't moved the ball all day? On a five step drop? And he checked it down, meaning the play design of Garrett says if nothing is there, you check it down. So let me get this straight, you take a shot 70 yards down the field, you don't take a shot on the check-down? Man, the fact that your defending the play just shows how out of touch you are with reality and how much a Garrett homer you are...

so with a few second to go, you want a take a shot at a checkdown? with the defense in prevent mode instead of taking a shot down field? lets keep it as close to the line of scrimmage as possible so we have to run the other 65 yards...so your proposal is that we were defeated, so lets just lie down and admit defeat. why fight back at all? right? its not like no team in NFL has never taken a wild arse shot at the end of the half or the game. yep. totally new concept. awesome. excellent approach to team management.
 

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How many did we score?

So what's the excuse for our WRs not getting open nowadays? Last year, it was Dez didn't know how to properly run routes. And Laurent Robinson was gone. Was Wade magically controlling our offense then?

we scored 17 against the giants. so did the all time best offense in the superbowl. we gave up 14 in last minute of each half. they went through our prevent defense like hot knife throw butter. hold them to at least a field goal and we win the game.
 

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yeah, like what he did in the Detroit game last year and the Denver game this year. awesome job tony.

Detroit game I fault Garrett. Im sick of his 3 and outs which puts the defense is a position to lose it. Denver game during crunch time was as much as Garrett as with Romo. Garrett sucks at handling time management. Why the urge to pass deep in your territory when you have a ton of time to spare on the clock? He could have run the ball instead.

Frankly, there is no worst coach in the NFL during crunch time than Garrett. We seem to blow a lot of close games when were in a lead or when we need a score. Garrett's indecision to do what is necessary to win during crunch time is the result of 8-8 seasons 3 years in a row.
 

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why not take a shot? and the QB should be smart enough to throw the ball away if the play is not there (and thus the problem with romo). and it almost worked, if not for crayton choke

So your blaming the QB for running the play as what its intended to be? Garrett should have taken the knee and not get cute.
 

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How many did we score?

So what's the excuse for our WRs not getting open nowadays? Last year, it was Dez didn't know how to properly run routes. And Laurent Robinson was gone. Was Wade magically controlling our offense then?

...and he was sabotaging his own defense.
 

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Detroit game I fault Garrett. Im sick of his 3 and outs which puts the defense is a position to lose it. Denver game during crunch time was as much as Garrett as with Romo. Garrett sucks at handling time management. Why the urge to pass deep in your territory when you have a ton of time to spare on the clock? He could have run the ball instead.

Frankly, there is no worst coach in the NFL during crunch time than Garrett. We seem to blow a lot of close games when were in a lead or when we need a score. Garrett's indecision to do what is necessary to win during crunch time is the result of 8-8 seasons 3 years in a row.

Why not just blame the Ukraine on JG while we're at it. Romo throwing the ball to a Denver linebacker might have been Romo's fault, might have been the TE fault, still trying to figure out how it was the head coach's fault??? Should they have run the ball three times, than let Peyton and co., just walk down the field and kick the inevitable field goal?
 

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The conservative thing to do is to take a knee, the odds of something bad happening far outweigh the good. The only thing good that can happen with 4 seconds remaining at your own 30 yard line is a successful Hail Mary or and interference call and what are the odds of either happening. The Commanders didn't score an offensive td that game, I chalk that one up to the OC and the organization. The OC for not taking a knee and organization that had the HC isolated from the offenses decision making.

I don't mean the conservative play call, I mean when the play actually started the decision by the quarterback was the correct and conservative one to make. It was not Tony Romo who was stripped of the football as the post I responded to emplied.
 

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Why not just blame the Ukraine on JG while we're at it. Romo throwing the ball to a Denver linebacker might have been Romo's fault, might have been the TE fault, still trying to figure out how it was the head coach's fault??? Should they have run the ball three times, than let Peyton and co., just walk down the field and kick the inevitable field goal?

Well Romo needs to take care of that ball during crunch time. Garrett could have and should have called a run play rather than let Romo sling it. Garrett's fault for letting Romo be Romo. He should have a measure of control on what Romo should and shouldn't do during the waning seconds of a game and thats deals with coaching.
 

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I don't mean the conservative play call, I mean when the play actually started the decision by the quarterback was the correct and conservative one to make. It was not Tony Romo who was stripped of the football as the post I responded to emplied.

Take the sack and go into the locker room down 3-0, but really this boils down to the oc's decision to actually run a play instead of taking a knee. Neither Choice nor Romo should have been put in that situation.
 
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