Crayton Request Release?

HoleInTheRoof;3417902 said:
I'd be happy if we released him, just so I wouldn't have to hear him whining.

Then, he can go out and sign a slightly above vet minimum contract with a bottom-feeder franchise.

I hope it is resolved on way or the other soon so I don't have to listen to your whining.
 
Chocolate Lab;3417948 said:
Did you listen to the interview? That is what he thinks. Otherwise why would he be so adamant that he wants to be released?

Because it is far easier to find a place right now as a potential starter or even 3rd WR. Quite a few teams haven't settled on a returner yet.

I don't think it's so he can sign for vet min with a bad team to be their 3rd WR and backup punt returner.

Which is precisely why he'd want his release sooner than later. It actually is more demonstrative of insecurity than confidence.

If he thought he was the greatest talent ever, he would not care if he was released now or later, he'd be confident that he would have a job in no time at all. Once camps are over and teams have gone through preseason, more of them will have their chances to evaluate their existing talent and chances are strong they will like players they are familiar with rather than signing some veteran with little time to indoctrinate him in to their team and culture.

What he doesn't realize is that there might not be anyone who wants him. Or, guess what, if they do they probably don't want him as more than a 4th or at best 3rd WR, just like here. Only he'd likely be making less money.

So why would he want to be released if nobody wanted him and he'd be making even less money? Fact of the matter is, he could probably start for a handful of teams and would be a the third receiver/returner for quite a few. If he were cut right now, he'd be in demand by teams like Carolina, St. Louis, Cleveland, Jacksonville and Buffalo to possibly start. He could be the third best WR on teams like Atlanta and a welcome addition.

After camp, those opportunities would be fewer in number and he knows it.

Which happens to be $2,000,000 this year, by the way. Yeah, maybe you are insurance. So what? You're getting two million bucks for it. That's more than you're worth.

So why not sit there and be happy to cash Jerry Jones' checks?

The bottom line is that he got butt-hurt because his name was shopped during the draft. Big deal. You think you're the only ballplayer a GM talked ever about trading? And did you consider that apparently no one wanted you when we asked?

The team's stance was that we were not going to "give him away". That does not suggest that nobody wanted him. Perhaps we were not willing to trade him bad enough for what his market might demand. Teams are not going to give up high choices for players of his age and assume his contract to boot. That does not mean they don't want him.

When (not if) we release him, he'll have a job in no time.
 
HoleInTheRoof;3418000 said:
Ignore feature. Look into it.

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So even though it's said that sarcasm is the lowest form of humor it still gets by you?

:)
 
Alexander;3418001 said:
So why would he want to be released if nobody wanted him and he'd be making even less money? Fact of the matter is, he could probably start for a handful of teams and would be a the third receiver/returner for quite a few. If he were cut right now, he'd be in demand by teams like Carolina, St. Louis, Cleveland, Jacksonville and Buffalo to possibly start. He could be the third best WR on teams like Atlanta and a welcome addition.

When (not if) we release him, he'll have a job in no time.

Thank you for the post, Fred Lyles.
 
Alexander said:
The team's stance was that we were not going to "give him away". That does not suggest that nobody wanted him. Perhaps we were not willing to trade him bad enough for what his market might demand. Teams are not going to give up high choices for players of his age and assume his contract to boot. That does not mean they don't want him.

Suggests that there's not much interest to me. When the term 'give him away' is used, it doesn't scream value to me, quite the opposite. Despite teams with needs, nobody's stepped up with an offer, not even rumored offers. And Crayton and his agent were given the right to seek a trade, and all they heard was crickets. Someone may want him, but not for a draft pick and not for $2 million.

When (not if) we release him, he'll have a job in no time.

Likely, but not for what he's making now.

And why should the Cowboys do Crayton and his new team a favor while doing a disservice to themselves?
 
guys been on my **** list ever since he dropped that key 3rd down pass in the playoff game against NY

see ya.
 
mldardy;3417955 said:
Please, I don't see any other receivers whining. Go, I am sick of this guy taking everything to the media. The Cowboys have done a good job of getting rid of players like this and this needs to continue with Crayton. What a baby. This dude doesn't deserve any special treatment. Earn it and stop crying about it.

we don't have to. he is the only one whining and he stil lhas produced at an acceptable level. Ellis was done. tank johnson was bad. packman. foget about it. so one whiner we can have. he is insurance, so be it. its a business. he signed on the dotted line. he wasn't complaining when he got hte paychecks. its not about love. its about how can I win a championship.

so we hold on to him. if he whines and whines he lowers his own market value and thus hurts chance sof being traded. fact is he is 31. slow. has been average. at best is a #3. he is making 2 mill this year. he loved the signing bonus when he got it. now he whines about taking care of my family, blah blah. buullshiet. his family is taken care of. I hate it when these rich athletes whine about taking care of their families. so instead of ****** mercedes buy a chevy. instead of a 2 mill home, buy a 1 mill home.

right now, we hold on to him. its the OTAs and teams are evaluating their own players. that's why Adams hasn't gotten a call. come training camp after the first couple of weeks there will be some openings. we get a 6th or 7th for the dude, then we make the trade. until then. sit on your arse and quit whining patrick.
 
Williams gets hurt.

Austin goes for 19 catches, 440 yards, 4 TDs and jumps from #3 to #1.

Crayton goes for 9 catches, 69 yards 1 TD on the Houdini play by Romo.

Simple truth is Miles earned it based on PERFORMANCE and Crayton didn't so he dropped a spot just like Williams.
 
Suddenly I am tired of Crayton.

Git!

This is our Super Bowl year and one thing we don't need is a disgruntled player in the lockerroom.
 
The only way I feel for Crayton is if he didn't know if he was going to be outright released or not. Then I could see him complaining. However Jerry has come out as said that wouldn't be the case and 'a Cowboys offical' supposedly told Jason LaCanfora of the NFL Network today that the Boys would NOT release Crayton.

Given this I'd say his whining is just part of their tactic to force a trade because he does not want to be the #4 or #5. I'm sorry but that is a me guy. Your family will be fine this year for $2 mill. Play your guts out when called on, be a team guy, and be a free agent next year.
 
CowboysFaninDC;3418017 said:
we don't have to. he is the only one whining and he stil lhas produced at an acceptable level. Ellis was done. tank johnson was bad. packman. foget about it. so one whiner we can have. he is insurance, so be it. its a business. he signed on the dotted line. he wasn't complaining when he got hte paychecks. its not about love. its about how can I win a championship.

so we hold on to him. if he whines and whines he lowers his own market value and thus hurts chance sof being traded. fact is he is 31. slow. has been average. at best is a #3. he is making 2 mill this year. he loved the signing bonus when he got it. now he whines about taking care of my family, blah blah. buullshiet. his family is taken care of. I hate it when these rich athletes whine about taking care of their families. so instead of ****** mercedes buy a chevy. instead of a 2 mill home, buy a 1 mill home.

right now, we hold on to him. its the OTAs and teams are evaluating their own players. that's why Adams hasn't gotten a call. come training camp after the first couple of weeks there will be some openings. we get a 6th or 7th for the dude, then we make the trade. until then. sit on your arse and quit whining patrick.
I just don't want whiny players and that is what it will be all season with this guy and those distractions can destroy a team. This team is deeper than most at the WR position and hanging on to Crayton because he had an ok season last year is not worth it.
 
superpunk;3417883 said:
I'd be pissed if I was Crayton, too. He's right, he's that insurance guy. Which is fine for the team, but at 31 he's got to do what's best for him. 7th rounder who beat the odds, he's got about one more shot at making some money. He can read the tea leaves, and as much as he wants to stay a Cowboy they've shown that they're ready to move on. Plenty of other teams could use a possession receiver who can return some punts - so why not push for a release?

I hope he gets it. With Dez and Otree on the roster there is no reason to keep him around. Hurd stays as the 5th and STer. Everyone is happy.

I agree with you 100%, not that I am feeling sorry for anyone making that kind of money but why not just release the man and avoid an ugly situation. I would love for them to keep him b/c he has given the Cowboys their all and has played well for them despite what some folks say. I bet he would fit in well in Miami along with Marshall.
 
stasheroo;3418011 said:
Suggests that there's not much interest to me. When the term 'give him away' is used, it doesn't scream value to me, quite the opposite.

I don't think any team would give up what we "think" he's worth. Much less assume that contract. That is the biggest issue. It is not that he isn't any good. He can play.

Despite teams with needs, nobody's stepped up with an offer, not even rumored offers. And Crayton and his agent were given the right to seek a trade, and all they heard was crickets. Someone may want him, but not for a draft pick and not for $2 million.

Would you pay for something even if you wanted it badly knowing that if you just remain patient you can get it for free? Of course not.
 
Alexander;3418052 said:
I don't think any team would give up what we "think" he's worth. Much less assume that contract. That is the biggest issue. It is not that he isn't any good. He can play.

Oh he can definitely play. That's why I'm against giving him up for nothing in return. I haven't heard so much as a rumored 7th round pick offered for him.


Would you pay for something even if you wanted it badly knowing that if you just remain patient you can get it for free? Of course not.

And Crayton and his agent need to realize that's exactly what the Cowboys are doing as well.

They're not going to do any of these teams any favors by handing them a player and I wouldn't either.

Let the Jags rot with the lousy bunch they have there at receiver rather than give up a draft pick. Let the Rams once again wallow in ineptitude rather than use a 2011 draft pick to upgrade. There's a reason these teams are bad.

If the team can't get something for him, keep him as insurance.

But I would not want to see the team keep him and then cut him before the start of the season either. I don't think they'll do that. I think worst case, they'd pay him to be the #4 insurance policy. His ego would just have to accept that - and 2 million dollars.
 
I'd bet dollars to donuts Dallas would trade him for a 6th, and would feel like they commited highway robbery if they got a 5th.

But I'd also bet dollars to donuts that the league just doesn't find him that valuable.

Two million and a late round draft pick isn't too much to pay if you're getting a quality #3, maybe #2 receiver and punt returner.

But that isn't what Crayton is. He's a mediocre punt returner, and the higher he gets on the depth chart, the more he disappears as a receiver. As a #2 in 2008 and early 2009, he was nearly invisible.

Again, I think Crayton just has an overinflated opinion of himself.

He's made a nice career for himself considering his roots, and he's made a number of plays with the Cowboys in pass happy offenses that has defenses focusing on stud receivers (Owens then Austin) and the best overall TE in football.

Crayton is good at running free against bottom of the depth chart cornerbacks or linebackers, finding a soft spot in the zone, and getting open.

That isn't hard to replace.
 
HoleInTheRoof;3418075 said:
Two million and a late round draft pick isn't too much to pay if you're getting a quality #3, maybe #2 receiver and punt returner.

You do realize we will be paying Sam Hurd just a little under $2M to give even less as a receiver and only cover kicks?

He's remaining quiet and "working hard" because he probably knows he would have a tough time being more anywhere else than what he is here and get that kind of money on a one year deal. Crayton is making noise to get the ball rolling.
 
Crayton Request Release?

Don't let the door hit you in the *** on the way out. Poon boy.

:cool:
 

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