Crayton Request Release?

[HoleInTheRoof]

You do realize we will be paying Sam Hurd just a little under $2M to give even less as a receiver and only cover kicks?

He's remaining quiet and "working hard" because he probably knows he would have a tough time being more anywhere else than what he is here and get that kind of money on a one year deal. Crayton is making noise to get the ball rolling.

I don't think Hurd makes the final 53 either. Still, I appreciate his approach to the situation.

Crayton is making noise because he's always been a noise maker.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

That two million dollars is why Hurd won't make it either.

 

[reddyuta]

its not good idea to give into players unreasonable demands ,it would set a bad precedent (one which JJ would like to avoid).If we are to get rid of crtayton then we need some compensation for it.

 

[Marktui]

~sniffle~

My heart bleeds for poor Patrick Crayton.

He's the only one in the NFL who is fighting for a roster spot, after seeing younger, more talented players emerge on the roster.

Poor, poor, Patrick Crayton.

I agree, every year teams draft younger players who might take the place of a vet or a position that they believe can be improved. It is the nature of the business, he seems like he is the only one out there that this is happening too.

Crayton is good player, not a game changer in anyway shape or form. He has overvalued himself. He got a 14 million dollar contract a couple of years ago, got into the starting lineup but was just a good complimentry wide receiver.

 

[TNT]

I wonder what his response would be if Jerry asked for a prorated amount of his signing bonus back, in return for his release? :laugh2: He wants his money and his release. I believe that he does provide good insurance at least through training camp. So I am not against keeping him and sitting him on the bench till needed. Whatever that is best for the team.

 

[Jed_70]

I don't blame him and wonder what is the holdup. His replacement has already been brought in, Dez. And the staff really likes Ogletree. I think the fair thing is to let him search for a job elsewhere. But now it's just too late.

He's under contract there's no need to do him a favor. Why weaken our depth?

What if someone goes down with a long term injury early in camp; would you still be all about being "fair" to Crayton?

 

[aquavita]

The Crayton issue has been my absolute benchmark to see who here is an idiot, and who isn't.

Those of you saying "good riddance" are idiots, plain and simple, and I thank God you don't run the Cowboys.

We have literally no other proven wide receiver on the roster other than Crayton. Not one. Williams is a joke, Austin had one good year (so what, lots of guys do and never come back), Ogletree is an X factor, Bryant is brand new and hasn't played in awhile, Hurd will be gone, etc etc etc.

The one guy here over the years and moving the chains has been Crayton. Go back and watch Romo's highlight vids. When he makes those circus throws after dodging 6 different linemen...it's usually Crayton getting the ball. The two just "get" each other, and that is an intangible much more important than pedigree. That's why Crayton is getting screwed. He has been here for Romo's entire starting career, and the two are entirely on the same page.

By all means, get rid of our only proven receiver during our best year to make a super bowl run since the mid 90s. Yeah, go nuts. :bang2:

Now is NOT the time to develop those young unknowns. Dez is one thing, but Ogletree? Really? He's a project for when your team sucks and has nothing to lose. This team has EVERYTHING to lose and we need all the proven help we can get to make a real push this year.

 

[Jarv]

I wonder what his response would be if Jerry asked for a prorated amount of his signing bonus back, in return for his release? :laugh2: He wants his money and his release. I believe that he does provide good insurance at least through training camp. So I am not against keeping him and sitting him on the bench till needed. Whatever that is best for the team.

Interesting comment, I haven't thought about that but it makes sense.

 

[Jed_70]

The Crayton issue has been my absolute benchmark to see who here is an idiot, and who isn't.

Those of you saying "good riddance" are idiots, plain and simple, and I thank God you don't run the Cowboys.

We have literally no other proven wide receiver on the roster other than Crayton. Not one. Williams is a joke, Austin had one good year (so what, lots of guys do and never come back), Ogletree is an X factor, Bryant is brand new and hasn't played in awhile, Hurd will be gone, etc etc etc.

The one guy here over the years and moving the chains has been Crayton. Go back and watch Romo's highlight vids. When he makes those circus throws after dodging 6 different linemen...it's usually Crayton getting the ball. The two just "get" each other, and that is an intangible much more important than pedigree. That's why Crayton is getting screwed. He has been here for Romo's entire starting career, and the two are entirely on the same page.

By all means, get rid of our only proven receiver during our best year to make a super bowl run since the mid 90s. Yeah, go nuts. :bang2:

Now is NOT the time to develop those young unknowns. Dez is one thing, but Ogletree? Really? He's a project for when your team sucks and has nothing to lose. This team has EVERYTHING to lose and we need all the proven help we can get to make a real push this year.

Spagnola hit on this in last weeks Talking Cowboys radio show.

He basically laid it out stating that Crayton's the only guy on the roster who has shown real consistency over the years.

And if you think about it it's true.

Williams struggles are well documented and Austin has battled injuries for most of his career.

And Dez is an unproven rookie. He could be the next Larry Fitzgerald or he could be the next Ashlie Lelie....we don't know yet.

 

[DallasDomination]

I'm all for Crayton.

He's been nothing but reliable and has done nothing but work for his job. Yet time after time He gets pushed aside for the next guy. Miles Austin deserves the spot but Roy Williams? what has he done to beat Crayton out?

IF Anything it should be MIles, Crayton and Dez..With Dez moving up the chains as performance allows.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I'm all for Crayton.

He's been nothing but reliable and has done nothing but work for his job. Yet time after time He gets pushed aside for the next guy. Miles Austin deserves the spot but Roy Williams? what has he done to beat Crayton out?

IF Anything it should be MIles, Crayton and Dez..With Dez moving up the chains as performance allows.

Roy has just as many Pro Bowl appearances as Miles does. And Dez has done nothing. So using your argument what has any of our receivers done? Fact is, Crayton had a okay year last season. I don't know why everyone is talking like he dominated last year. He had key drops last season as well as previous seasons. I like his game. I love him as a slot receiver. But I think if Miles, Roy, Dez and even Ogletree play to their capabilities next season? I think the reward for their play will be greater than that of what Crayton can do.

 

[Randy White]

I don't blame him and wonder what is the holdup. His replacement has already been brought in, Dez. And the staff really likes Ogletree. I think the fair thing is to let him search for a job elsewhere. But now it's just too late.

Are you serious ?

He's under contract. He has absolutely ZERO grounds for complaining. His obligation is to show up to work until he's told not do so anymore. He's a role player who the team took care of, as well as his family, for the rest of their lives. The LEAST he should do is respect that.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

The Crayton issue has been my absolute benchmark to see who here is an idiot, and who isn't.

Those of you saying "good riddance" are idiots, plain and simple, and I thank God you don't run the Cowboys.

We have literally no other proven wide receiver on the roster other than Crayton. Not one. Williams is a joke, Austin had one good year (so what, lots of guys do and never come back), Ogletree is an X factor, Bryant is brand new and hasn't played in awhile, Hurd will be gone, etc etc etc.

The one guy here over the years and moving the chains has been Crayton. Go back and watch Romo's highlight vids. When he makes those circus throws after dodging 6 different linemen...it's usually Crayton getting the ball. The two just "get" each other, and that is an intangible much more important than pedigree. That's why Crayton is getting screwed. He has been here for Romo's entire starting career, and the two are entirely on the same page.

By all means, get rid of our only proven receiver during our best year to make a super bowl run since the mid 90s. Yeah, go nuts. :bang2:

Seems like your ire should be directed not at those who are saying "good riddance", but at those who are saying that Jerry should stop holding the poor man back and let him go now to "do him a favor". Because if he's as valuable as you say, there's no need for all his squawking... His talent will show up on the field for us and he'll end up playing plenty.

Maybe Patrick needs your pep talk.

 

[jterrell]

You do realize we will be paying Sam Hurd just a little under $2M to give even less as a receiver and only cover kicks?

He's remaining quiet and "working hard" because he probably knows he would have a tough time being more anywhere else than what he is here and get that kind of money on a one year deal. Crayton is making noise to get the ball rolling.

The problem is Hurd won't be giving us less at receiver.

Crayton would be fine at 2 mil if he could make active rosters on game days but he wont.

He was mightily upset last year when he was benched and now he has been benched again.

Hurd is our BEST gunner. He is going to be active on game days and thus be available to play WR.

Crayton is right. He is an insurance policy that Dallas wants someone else to cash out by offering them a low draft pick.

They won't and he'll eventually be released because30+ year old WRs who haven't ever had 50 catches aren't highly valued. He'd be a 3rd WR on a handful of teams and a #2 on a couple others but those teams can choose amongst 3 or 4 better options available right now in Free Agency.

 

[jterrell]

The Crayton issue has been my absolute benchmark to see who here is an idiot, and who isn't.

Those of you saying "good riddance" are idiots, plain and simple, and I thank God you don't run the Cowboys.

We have literally no other proven wide receiver on the roster other than Crayton. Not one. Williams is a joke, Austin had one good year (so what, lots of guys do and never come back), Ogletree is an X factor, Bryant is brand new and hasn't played in awhile, Hurd will be gone, etc etc etc.

The one guy here over the years and moving the chains has been Crayton. Go back and watch Romo's highlight vids. When he makes those circus throws after dodging 6 different linemen...it's usually Crayton getting the ball. The two just "get" each other, and that is an intangible much more important than pedigree. That's why Crayton is getting screwed. He has been here for Romo's entire starting career, and the two are entirely on the same page.

By all means, get rid of our only proven receiver during our best year to make a super bowl run since the mid 90s. Yeah, go nuts. :bang2:

Now is NOT the time to develop those young unknowns. Dez is one thing, but Ogletree? Really? He's a project for when your team sucks and has nothing to lose. This team has EVERYTHING to lose and we need all the proven help we can get to make a real push this year.

The most idiotic argument in this entire thread is your own.

Crayton IS proven. He is proven to be a 45 catch guy who scares no one.

That's RW11 in an awful year. RW11 may well be awful again but he also has a Pro Bowl season to his credit and scores TDs.

Wake me up when you stop sniffing glue and can form a coherent argument based on more than a familial obligation to defend PC.

Crayton is going to be gone because he wants to be gone but it will happen on the Cowboys time table not his own.


Many players far better than Crayton have been released by the Dallas Cowboys.

 

[Randy White]

They won't and he'll eventually be released because30+ year old WRs who haven't ever had 50 catches aren't highly valued. He'd be a 3rd WR on a handful of teams and a #2 on a couple others but those teams can choose amongst 3 or 4 better options available right now in Free Agency.

I like Crayton. I think he's one of the best 3rd/slot receivers in the league. Out of the top of my head, I can't think of a team where he'd be a #2. He's not going to out run anybody in straight up coverage and he's not going to out muscle anybody either. What he's going to do is use his quickness and precise route running to get open in zones or from the slot in a 3 receiver set.

Having said that, his mouth is writting checks his career won't cash. He should be grateful to the Cowboys for giving him the opportunity to set himself and his family for life. An opportunity that does not come often for players of his caliber.

 

[jterrell]

I like Crayton. I think he's one of the best 3rd/slot receivers in the league. Out of the top of my head, I can't think of a team where he'd be a #2. He's not going to out run anybody in straight up coverage and he's not going to out muscle anybody either. What he's going to do is use his quickness and precise route running to get open in zones or from the slot in a 3 receiver set.

Having said that, his mouth is writting checks his career won't cash. He should be grateful to the Cowboys for giving him the opportunity to set himself and his family for life. An opportunity that does not come often for players of his caliber.

I was thinking of somewhere like St. Louis or Tennessee but yea no guarantee he'd be a 2 anywhere.

I think he has made the most of limited talent and I respect that he wants his family to be settled somewhere but at least he has a million plus year to work with on the family front.

He is a very good 3 though quite a bit behind Welker who can break tackles. Welker is lot like Eric Metcalf with better hands.

 

[Dhragon]

The Crayton issue has been my absolute benchmark to see who here is an idiot, and who isn't.

Those of you saying "good riddance" are idiots, plain and simple, and I thank God you don't run the Cowboys.

We have literally no other proven wide receiver on the roster other than Crayton. Not one. Williams is a joke, Austin had one good year (so what, lots of guys do and never come back), Ogletree is an X factor, Bryant is brand new and hasn't played in awhile, Hurd will be gone, etc etc etc.

The one guy here over the years and moving the chains has been Crayton. Go back and watch Romo's highlight vids. When he makes those circus throws after dodging 6 different linemen...it's usually Crayton getting the ball. The two just "get" each other, and that is an intangible much more important than pedigree. That's why Crayton is getting screwed. He has been here for Romo's entire starting career, and the two are entirely on the same page.

By all means, get rid of our only proven receiver during our best year to make a super bowl run since the mid 90s. Yeah, go nuts. :bang2:

Now is NOT the time to develop those young unknowns. Dez is one thing, but Ogletree? Really? He's a project for when your team sucks and has nothing to lose. This team has EVERYTHING to lose and we need all the proven help we can get to make a real push this year.

I guess those who wanted Ellis gone after all his whining were idiots as well. After all, Spencer hadn't proven himself either at that time and Ellis was still producing pretty well (and consistent). Ellis though was also holding back new, young talent (Spencer). Getting rid of him got rid of a whiny locker room cancer and let his young replacement come into his own. What's so idiotic about wanting to drop yet another old whiny vet who is holding back several potential young WRs (Ogletree, Bryant)?

I guess you are one of those who do not think locker room chemistry plays any part in how a team performs. I'm sure keeping a whiny, malcontent average WR will do wonders for our locker room chemistry, eh? Even if you are scared of losing Crayton's consistency and don't have any faith that either Bryant or Ogletree can thrive in his place, I think you still have to bail on a cancer, which is what an unhappy Crayton will be all year long.

Personally, I think those who are already rueing the upcoming day Crayton gets dumped are the idiots. They apparently want us to keep someone who will whine and cry all season long ( affecting team chemistry) and keep Ogletree and Bryant more often on the bench, just for a mediocre WR performance or three.

 

[Mansta54]

I like Crayton. I think he's one of the best 3rd/slot receivers in the league. Out of the top of my head, I can't think of a team where he'd be a #2. He's not going to out run anybody in straight up coverage and he's not going to out muscle anybody either. What he's going to do is use his quickness and precise route running to get open in zones or from the slot in a 3 receiver set.

Having said that, his mouth is writting checks his career won't cash. He should be grateful to the Cowboys for giving him the opportunity to set himself and his family for life. An opportunity that does not come often for players of his caliber.

Not just Crayton, they all should be grateful for that same opportunity.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

If this is fact and Crayton were to be released as requested, would Jerry be on the hook to pay him guaranteed $$?

Would be interesting, particularly if his desire changed if Jerry were to ask for him to waive his right for the dough.